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This mumber 364! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.89.185.17 (talk) 16:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other changes

Most of the content in the article was moved from the JAT article. WhisperToMe 23:41, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

changed accident to explosion, a bomb on an airliner is not an accident

Hermsdorf

I removed the link to Hermsdorf in Thuringia for now, as it is unsourced and this particular Hermsdorf is more than 200 km to the west of the crash site. It therefore seems rather unlikely that an explosion there should have caused a free fall from 10.000m at Srbska Kamenice. There are multiple Hermsdorfs in Germany (see de:Hermsdorf), the nearest to the crash site seems to be a part of Rosenthal-Bielatal, less than 20 km west of the crash site. There are also a Hinterhermsdorf and a Krumhermsdorf equally close and to the north of the site. Yaan (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article move

This article should really be at JAT Flight 367 as is standard for aircraft accident/incident articles. I will move it in a few days unless somebody can explain why it should be non standard. Thanks you MilborneOne (talk) 22:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No comments article has been moved. MilborneOne (talk) 15:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bomb or shot down

I just added the information about the possible shot down. At the moment the article on "tagesschau.de" it is the only source of information about it. In case it is true, it should be a much bigger story than just an invented record, so proof of this information is needed.

The article suggests that the explosion took place above Hinterhermsdorf, then in the GDR. Maybe it was just calculated to have happend there, from the supposed flight level at the moment of the explosion and the crash site.

There are further points that bother me about the "Shot-down-theory": - The crash site is very close to former GDR territory, and the bearing was more or less 180°, it must have left the GDR territory just moments before the crash. - If the article is right, the plane must have suffered severe problems just before the crash, resulting in a steep loss of altitude. The crew should have been intenting an emergency landing.

So why the Czech air force was able to shoot it down right after it entered Czech air airspace? Was there any involvement of GDR authorities or air force? Or was it just shot down by "accident"? Was maybe the Soviet air force involved? (There was a Soviet air base not far to the south east, near the town of Mimon (Ralsko military site) [1]. (K. Schmidt 00:56 CET, 8 Jan 2009)

I think there is yet another problem - why would the Yugoslavs play along? Yaan (talk) 13:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This shot down theory is hardly beliveble. Look at the picture with communication - i was routine controled flight. Many other planes was listen to the communications at those requencies. Black boxes information was read in Amsterdam in presence with Netherland authorities. And so on. Authors of conspiration theory have no reliable proofs or testimonies, I think it is only mix of making shocking affair with a little blind anticomunism.

Flight 364?

Why do JAT Yugoslav Flight 364 and JAT Flight 364 redirect here? --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 01:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because some sources call it Flight 364 (JU364) and some Flight 367 (JU367), not sure which is actually correct really need a reliable contempary reference to find out? MilborneOne (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Look at a final record, that I add to references - it was flight JU 367. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.240.28.98 (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 :I think there is yet another problem - why would the Yugoslavs play along? [[User:Yaan|Yaan]] ([[User talk:Yaan|talk]]) 13:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
+* This shot down theory is hardly beliveble. Look at the picture with communication - i was routine controled flight. Many other planes was listen to the communications at those requencies. Black boxes information was read in Amsterdam in presence with Netherland authorities. And so on. Authors of conspiration theory have no reliable proofs or testimonies, I think it is only mix of making shocking affair with a little blind anticomunism.
 == Flight 364? ==