Talk:Gilmore Girls

Kirk's Last Name

I would like to know the source for "Gleason" as kirk's last name. I didn't know that was it. Which episode was this revealed in, as I thought a running Joke was that Kirk never revealed his Last name. In the First-Fourth season DVD boxes, under The cast list, it only refers to him as Kirk, with everyone else having a last name. J-stan 19:40, 2 August, 2006.

Jlahorn 00:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC) imdb.com, tv.com, amazon.com, answers.com, entertainment.com... I don't know where they got it from, but it didn't originate here.

According to a TV.com trivia item on Sean Gunn, "Kirk wasn't given a last name until the third season episode 'One Has Class and the Other One Dyes' [sic] when Lane mentioned his rock band's name, The Kirk Gleason Five." Can someone check this out? TV.com's trivia section isn't a reliable source, given that anyone can edit it as long as they participate in the discussion boards. (Case in point: the correct episode title is "One's Got Class and the Other One Dyes".) But a quotation from the primary source material would be reliable. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

His last name is indeed Gleason. To quote from the relevant episode:

LANE: Once, a guy in our town named Kirk was practicing Bohemian Rhapsody with his band, the Kirk Gleason Five, and my mom shut them down so fast that the band fled without their instruments and never came back for them. To this day, Kirk can’t listen to Queen without tearing up.

Daydream believer2 20:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, that's a bit iffy. It sounds like there is no direct connection to our favorite Kirk, like pointing to him or saying "Kirk, the guy who... [does something we've seen]". I'm sure the writers intended us to think of jack-of-all-trades Kirk, but my opinion is not a wiki-reliable source, nor is that of any other viewers of the show. I would suggest handling this by identifying him as "Kirk Gleason" with a footnote that reads something like:

As of [whatever date], Kirk's surname has yet to be explicitly stated on the show. However, Lane Kim refers to "a guy in our town named Kirk" with a band named "The Kirk Gleason Five" in a conversation in "One's Got Class and the Other One Dyes", and IMDb and other sources appear to have picked up on this indirect identification.

I'd also like to describe the scene, instead of just saying "in a conversation", for the sake of easier verification. How's this sound? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

To clarify it a little more, Lane was arguing with the members of her band over practicing in town, where her mother could find them. The characters she was talking to, at the time, didn't know Kirk at all. I'd argue that it was more than implied, but simply logical. Her "a guy in our town" comment was the most logical way of describing him to people who didn't know anything. Like if, say, Jerry Seinfeld was telling someone about "a guy in my building, Kramer", we're automatically to assume it meant Cosmo Kramer rather than thinking there could be someone else with the same name.

Of course I see your point, however, I'm just unsure as to how arguable the fact really is. Daydream believer2 03:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

In the episode guide that came with the Season 4 DVD set, his name was listed as Kirk Gleason.--Dani 21:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Everyone, feel free to hack apart what I've done to the plot section...I don't know if the bullets were a good idea or not, but those sections just seemed to lend themselves that way. I've already reworded some things to try to make them more encyclopedia-ey. I also don't know where to put this: "Lorelai, who was engaged to Luke, was frustrated by his keeping his newly-discovered daughter (April) from her, and their relationship is on the rocks." If someone could stick it in / revise it where appropriate, that'd be awesome! Also, I think we could enrich the "other characters" section... jen - 16 April 2007

Episode pages AfD

Somebody has nominated several of your episode pages for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/French_Twist_(Gilmore_Girls)) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Reoccuring Characters

Should Lane's husband be on the list? He's been in more recent episodes.

-Zach, you mean? He definetely should be. He's on just as often as other people on that list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.130.131 (talk) 01:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree as well, Zach is a major character --Banime (talk) 20:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Richard Gilmore

Could someone please research and find out why Edward Herrmann continues to be listed as a "Guest Star"?!?! 'Emily' is not so why is he!?!? This has been driving me crazy since I noticed it about four seasons ago! Might be a good tidbit for a "Trivia" section :) 204.49.209.110 12:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Bhmyers

I believe on one of the DVD specials, or somewhere they said they were lucky to get Edward Herrman. I think that part of the stipulation of him agreeing to be on the show is to be listed as "Special appearance by." It happens in a lot of movies and such where they will list a load of actors and then one special one (on The King of Queens for instance, they list all the actors and then at the end list "And Jerry Stiller as Arthur." I think it's a weird thing of contracts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.17.34.222 (talk) 00:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, Richard does appear alot, so your point is understood, but I think there's a line between so many episodes to be considered a "star" and then considered a "recurring character". But, he does have a slot on the opening credits, so I guess that's all we can ask for Fanfiction.addiction 06:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Logan proposing to Rory

Ok, if the end of Season 7 hasn't aired yet how is it known that Logan propses to rory and why isn't there a spoiler warning?Yayamaya 23:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for saying something. Remember to sign all your posts. 60.242.31.143 10:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Why does this show have to end? I love this show.

Actually, as another point, I feel like the series finale is getting way too much weight in this article. It was one episode of how many? 150? But its plot points seem to be getting almost a quarter of the space of a number of sections. The finale is more important than the average episode, but certainly not *that* important.

AdjectiveAnimal 06:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Present tense for show

Everyone, let's please stop changing the lead sentence to read "Gilmore Girls was", because it "is". Contrary to the beliefs of some editors, one does not say a show "was" just because it has been completed. This is just as true for a TV series as it is for a book or a play. One doesn't say Hamlet: Prince of Denmark was a Shakespearean play; it is and always will be. It was written and has been performed. Likewise, Gilmore Girls was created and has been ended, but it still is a TV series. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, there's really no continuity regarding this on Wikipedia. Certain TV shows that "are" TV series but have ended are written about in the past tense (e.g. Dallas and M*A*S*H) while others are not. Grammatically, I believe both are correct, although I can't be sure. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.146.109.92 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

If you mean "consensus" within Wikipedia, the present-tense expectation follows the official guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction), under "Presentation of fictional material". There will always be Wikipedia articles that don't follow style guidelines, but this is not an excuse to ignore them in any particular article. Each article is improved individually by its editors.

"Continuity" usually refers to reasonable flow of information or events within a discrete work — in this case, within the article. I haven't examined the current version of the entire article, which I'm sure is undergoing many continuity-thwarting small updates with the end of the series. But if you want to improve continuity for an article that uses the standard "out-of-universe" perspective but also includes "in-universe" material, I'd suggest reviewing the aforementioned guideline. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Episode Needed

"In an episode of Scrubs, it's revealed that Turk and J.D. watch the show on their night off. After watching the show, Turk calls J.D. over the phone to discuss it. Turk: "Mothers and daughters... they speak so fast, but they speak so true." J.D.: "I'm so mad at Lorelai, I can't even speak right now."[episode needed]"

The episode is His Story II #3.18

First Apperance of Sean Gunn

While Sean Gunn is known for his outrageous character "Kirk" on Gilmore Girls, his first appearance on the show was acting as a DSL man ,sent by Emily Gilmore, going by the name of Mick.

Yeah that's right, in the first or second episode he is called 'Mick', I remembered that puzzled me too. Maybe it was only for the pilot and his role was rewritten later.84.196.48.46 (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning up DVD releases section

I've changed the countries in this article, section: dvd-release. I've changed the UK and Norway into Europe UK, and Europe Norway (since they both are part of Europe). Europe itself is changed into Continental Europe (every country in Europe, excluding the UK and Ireland (and depending on your point of view it could also exclude Scandinavia, Iceland and Finland). I wanted to set this straight, because with almost everything it seems that some people in the UK consider themselves as something else, other than European (when in fact they are very much so). Second of all: should Norway be excluded in the list of dvd-releases? I included the Netherlands in the section of season 6 (since in the Netherlands this season came out on a different date than in the UK, Continental Europe or Norway). But I have my doubts about that; what if every country on this planet will be represented in this list? Perhaps the releasedates of Norway (and the Netherlands) can be added in the section of Continental Europe?--84.104.123.100 15:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I recently fixed some bad markup in the DVD releases section. However, I did notice that with the addition of the Netherlands to the release dates for seasons 6 and 7 and the complete show box set release, the table rows for those DVD sets are too wide - anyone running a lower resolution than 1280x1024 is going to probably have to scroll sideways to read those. Would anyone be against it if I moved the country icon and country name under the "Europe" heading on the release dates sections to take up less horizontal space? Shifuimam 07:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that's the same thing that I proposed (see #6 on this talkpage), but note that the Netherlands has a different releasedate than the UK and Norway. I would like to see that the several releasedates in Europe (UK, Norway, Netherlands, etc.) are all combined in one section (Europe). Would that be possible? I think that would solve the problem. --Robster1983 10:44, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

P.s. I put my proposal in this section, for it is about the same thing; the DVD-section in the article. --Robster1983 10:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Gilmore-s7.jpg

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BetacommandBot 00:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Why was the season 7 DVD image deleted? I don't see any difference between that one and other DVD release images...it still falls under fair use. Can we put it back, or will it just keep getting deleted? Shifuimam 23:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Mentioning dates and cancellation in lead paragraph

Although it may be redundant to have dates in both the infobox and introduction, I think it should be mentioned in both because upon reading the lead sentence, it is not clear that the show is cancelled (one possible reason why people keep trying to say Gilmore Girls was instead of is). The WikiProject Television guidelines do allow this information to be included in the introduction. JYi 18:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The Gilmore Girls in popular culture - unlisted occurrence in House MD S03E15

In episode 15 of season 3 of House MD there is a scene where Cameron wants to get some of his blood using her feminine charms. Cameron kisses House and while kissing she wants to draw some blood with a needle hidden in her pocket. Unfortunately House becomes aware of her plan before she can carry it out. In the discussion following her discovery he tells her to look up his patient files under some number and 'under the name of Luke and Lorelai'

This is my first time trying to contribute and I have no idea how it works, so I had the idea to post this bit of information here to inspire someone to post it in the real article that just wouldn't be complete without this tremendously important information. 212.17.73.75 (talk) 21:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC) Lily IP

Spoilers

Is there anyway to inform readers that this page contains spoilers. These spoilers are things like what happens at the seventh season. This hasn't come out yet it places like Australia and people that read this article are unaware of the info it contains. Is there a way to fix this?---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heytaytay99 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

No, because it's fairly common knowledge that reading character/plot sections would impart spoilers, due to the inherent nature of character sheets and plot synopses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.59.183 (talk) 01:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Is/Was

Let's not start climbing the Reichstag over whether the Gilmore Girls is or was a TV Series. Both versions are used on Wikipedia and both are correct, depending on your point of view. -Duribald (talk) 12:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Lorelai wears contacts or not?

In the second episode of the first season (perhaps first or third, but definetely one of those) Lorelai complains about putting her contacts in backwards to Sookie. But in a later season, when she is talking to Rachel (Luke's ex-girlfriend), Rachel says she has pretty eyes, and asks if Lorelai wears contacts. Lorelai says No. She is also wearing glasses sometimes, but not always. (Which could be that she just doesn't have anything half the time, but maybe not) This has bothered me for actually at least a year so I would really like to know the deal.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.189.130.131 (talk) 01:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it was just her not bothering to put in her contacts that day. --Banime (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit

I took this out of the Luke/Lorelai section: "At one point Lorelai and Luke come home drunk and have sex. Lorelai later realizes she may be pregnant, but it is a false alarm."

Although I admit I haven't seen the show in quite a while, I'm pretty sure this would have stuck out in my mind. 97.96.182.234 (talk) 00:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Though it sounds rather tawdry the way it was phrased there, it's quite genuine. It happens near the end of the fifth series, coming at the same time as Sookie's baby. David Arthur (talk) 00:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Templates (May 11th)

Added refimprove, rewrite and copy editing.

The "Plot" section needs to be completely rewritten. It is currently made up of huge blocks of text with grammar errors on every sentence, and not a poor comma in sight to help you through a sentence with 50+ words. The production section is only slightly better, be needs a lot more references.

Ruyter (talk) 22:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

New Season

Today I saw a commerical on ABC Family that stated there would be a new season of Gilmore Girls, premiering on the 8th of June. My information is valid and other people have seen it as well. This is very important information that should be posted here. So that Fans can believe it. 71.58.107.112 (talk) 03:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

So now reading the text is pretty much like watching the show itself?134.7.248.130 (talk) 11:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Mate, the first paragraph warns about the endless run on sentences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.7.248.130 (talk) 11:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

ABC Family has never shown reruns of the seventh season--that's the "new season" that's "premiered" on June 8th. Gilmore Girls is over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.71.121 (talk) 03:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Rory's age goof

i've found an interesting goof.in 1st episode Lorelai tells that Rory is 16.in ep. 4"deer hunters" Rory drives the car so she is really 16. in episode 6 she seebrares her...16th year!!!(i've counted candles). why have i written thjs?because i can't sleep !!!aand those who read this won't seep too! I am evil genious!!!!