Talk:University of Notre Dame

Donations by Kroc's wife

Kroc is not the founder of Mc. Donalds. He bought it from the two Mc. Donald brothers who started the company. His claim to fame is that he was responsible for its growth into the mega corporation it is today by pioneering the modern franchise. I'm going to change it, but I need a source if someone can provide one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.169.62 (talk) 02:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Obama controversy

I noticed a recent and notable controversy about Obama receiving a recognition from Notre Dame, even though he has promised to give more money for abortions. Apart from this, it is only one of many affairs which in recent times have tainted Notre Dame's reputation among Church leaders, because of a long-lasting institutional and theological dissent to Humanae Vitae. [1] ADM (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I hesitate to pander to this tripe by responding, but as a graduate of the school I feel I must. Notre Dame is NOT a church. It is a school. They are there to educate students by providing insights, education and inspiration. Not every speaker or honoree will agree with everything the church has to say, nor should they. This is not a "controvery" that belongs in an article about a university. 70.102.24.186 (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)LS

In that case, Notre Dame should seriously consider a total secularization from the Church and remove its Jesuit/Catholic status. Even then, the bishops could be allowed to sue Notre Dame because it has a misleading name, pretending to be affiliated to the Church when it is really not at all. ADM (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out that Notre Dame tacitly supports abortion because the university has invited the President of the United States to campus. This one act has irreconcilably severed its connection with the Catholic Church. Why don't you go flame on some other talk pages? There are ways to write about this "controversy" in an encyclopedic manner. Obviously, you have no interest in doing that. --Pgp688 (talk) 03:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't anything to contribute to the original issue being discussed, I think it is worth responding to the previous comment, Notre Dame is a Catholic University, but it is not a Jesuit one. It is sponsored by the Congregation of the Holy Cross.--Mitamarine 00:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is somewhat tangential and inflammatory, but the article may need to address the controversy since it is generating mainstream coverage: Chicago Tribune, Atlantic Online, AP, MSNBC. Madcoverboy (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I removed a lengthy and POV-ridden "Pro-Life Controversy" section on the topic, and added an approrpiately concise mention in the "modern history" section. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 05:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

But then again, you need to also note that while Notre Dame drew fire for inviting Obama, the speeches given by Obama and Father Jenkins were very well recieved and generated a lot of positive remarks. --10.6.10.12 14:34, 6 July 2009 (EST). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.183.172.131 (talk)

Land O'Lakes Statement

Perhaps there should be a stub on the famous Land O'Lakes Statement, which keeps coming back in discussions about Notre Dame and other Catholic universities. [2] ADM (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

University Governance

ZimZalaBim- I disagree with the decision to delete the explanation of University governance. It is significant because Notre Dame is a prominent Catholic university. Some Catholic universities are run directly by different holy orders, some are run by the diocese they exist in. Some are run by independent boards of trustees. How the university is structured legally, has practical consequences. Dicoeses, and provinces of holy orders, that have been under financal pressure from child abuse lawsuits are forced to sell assets. The fact that Notre Dame is a seperate entity (not owned by the dicoese of South Bend/Fort Wayne, or the Congratation of the Holy Cross) and and is governed as such becomes a relevant point.--Mitamarine 16:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I've added a separate section on governance. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 16:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Is the French pronunciation /nɔtʁ dam/ ever actually used in reference to the University, as the opening sentence says? While I've heard that pronunciation used by English speakers for the cathedral in Paris and its associated hunchback, I have only ever heard the university pronounced the anglicized way, /ˌnoʊtər ˈdeɪm/. +Angr 16:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

"I have only ever heard the university pronounced the anglicized way,/ˌnoʊtər ˈdeɪm/". That's not the 'anglicised' way, its the 'American' way. Duarcain (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Distinguished Alumni of Notre Dame

Alan Page of the Minnesota Supreme Court should be noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.91.55 (talk) 17:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)