Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/True v. USAA

True v. USAA

Argument for Delete: An article about a legal case which has barely begun, and about which there is no evidence any newspaper or journal has written, concerning a matter which itself does not appear to be notable or significant. Ordinarilly I'd be reluctant to nominate an article only a day old for AfD, but the submitter's other contributions (particularly those on Unincorporated reciprocal inter-insurance exchange) strongly suggest he intends to use Wikipedia as a vehicle to publicise his ongoing lawsuit. That's not a fit purpose to which Wikipedia should be put. Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

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Argument to Keep: True v USAA was commenced (filed) 10 Feb 2004 (Docket # 04 L 79, St. Clare County, IL). Thus, this is hardly a new case: in fact it is almost two years old. True is singularly the most challenging law suit and easily the most significant event presently bearing on USAA's finances. It demands the immediate return of all unallocated surplus surplus. If Col True is granted class action status, and if Col True prevails, USAA will tautologically become insolvent and will then be disolved by the Texas Department of Insurance.

USAA's April 6, 2005 24-page response to interrogatories, in which USAA's lawyers essentially argue that the "members" own nothing, is one of the most revealing documents in USAA's history. This document will soon be available on a server located in Ulan Bator, with simultaneous mirror-service out of Vilnius and Ye Katerinaburg.

True v USAA focuses on the fundamental issue that USAA's lacks any capital structure. USAA exists off of money "borrowed" and then perhaps not returned to the subscribers. This lawsuite demands that USAA repatriate money questionably deposited in the Arran Master Trust - and that this money be returned to the subscribers who own it.

(Author note as to argument to keep: I have absolutely no financial interest in how True v. USAA turns out. Will every signatory below please declare his/her independence in this matter)

Critics: listen to this and listen carefully. " . . . and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." John Donne 1623. St. Paul's Cathedral, London. USAA's days are numbered. Look at all of you laid out below, as if you were tree huggers lying in front of a bull-dozer. You'all make a sad sight.

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• Delete as non-notable and advertising. I'm not opposed to significant legal cases being listed but this vulture should take ads out not use Wikipedia. Ifnord 00:10, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination.--ViolinGirl^♪ 00:17, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Alr 00:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: Could get wikipedia in some legal hotwate imagine the headlines: Wikipedia used to promote lawsuit-Deathawk 00:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. IANAL, but wouldn't this fall foul of Sub judice laws? Grutness...wha? 00:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as spam. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-04 01:43Z
• Deleteper nom. Evil Eye 02:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. NeoJustin 02:22, January 4, 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. JHMM13 (T | C) 03:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. --Carnildo 08:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete since WP:ISNOT a newspaper. Wait until the case is settled and see if it establishes any important legal precedent. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 11:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as said earlier in nomination. Kaushik twin 14:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete notability not asserted. -- MisterHand 15:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Cyberevil 05:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Incognito 05:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Rescendent 15:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuidditchBall (talk • contribs)
• Delete per nom TheRingess 03:47, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Extraordinary Rendition by a URIE

Koenig a New York member of a URIE, USAA, and also a vocal critic of USAA's Capital Structure is jailed in solitary confinement for his views. Robert G. Davis, attorney in fact of USAA, obtained an ex parte Texas Bexar County District Court court order compelling Koenig to pay Davis $40,000 for Davis's legal costs in trying to shut Koenig down for writing ascerbic and entirely truthful commentary about the $5 billion USAA improperly holds in "unassigned surplus". This is the story of how Davis enforced his desire to silence Koenig.

On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at about 10 AM, 4 deputies in two cars from NY's Nassau County Sheriff's department, operating on instructions from Robert G. Davis, swooped down on Robert J. Koenig at 9 Tiffany Road, Oyster Bay, NY.

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Nassau County Sheriff's Lieutenant Bill Miritello was in charge of the detail which detained Koenig. Here is his business card and telephone number. These facts can be verified with LT. Miritello; and he can describe the order arresting Koenig.

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Sergeant David D. MacKintosh assisted along with two other Sheriff's Deputies.

Koenig was transported in shackles to the Nassau County Correction Center, placed in solitary confinement and held incommunicado for 6 days in a windowless, 24-hour brightly-lit 6' x 8' cell, with no clock. Koenig was fed in his cell. Koenig was denied any sort of writing implement, paper, and any means to contact a lawyer. Koenig was stripped of his watch and all personal possessions, and provided with only an orange shirt, orange prison trousers, and orange thin-soled sandals, a half-bar of soap, and a roll of toilet-paper; Koenig was provided no underwear and no socks. Koenig was provided with no out-doors exercise. Koenig was let out of his cell twice daily for a short period. On the evening of the 6th day (Monday, December 19th), Koenig was cross-arm shackled to another prisoner (a delightful fellow who had just shot and killed a drug dealer), transported by closed windowless truck to an unidentified satellite facility of the jail, and released into the general population - in a cell-block of about 50 prisoners. 7 days after his detention, on Tuesday, December 20th, at about 3 PM, Koenig was taken before and ordered released by Judge Robert Roberto of the Nassau Supreme Court. Upon Judge Roberto's written order that he was a "free man", Koenig was re-shackled by Sheriff's Deputies, taken to another local holding facility in a separate court house, held there for one hour, cross-arm re-shackled to another prisoner, transported back to the satellite facility, ordered to change back into prison uniform, strip-searched, taken to another local holding room for 90 minutes, cross-arm shackled to another prisoner (a rapist this time), transported to the main prison, strip searched, ordered to change into his civilian clothes, re-fingerprinted to show that he was the same person incarcerated 7 days earlier, paid back only $3 of the $17 he had when he arrived, and shoved out onto the street in 23 degree temperature at 9PM. Koenig walked 17 miles back to his home, getting in at about 11PM.

Koenig is back at work on his book: a biography with the working title - "Grand Theft - Insurance". Several of the correction officers at the Nassau County Correction Center volunteered to be in the film: so did lots of the prisoners. Since Koenig was raised in Europe and speaks French fluently, many of the aspiring prisoner/actors are very tall and sort of bulky Haitian drug-runners who are very interested in potential acting careers. Koenig made a lot of friends in prison: and they all thank the USAA attorney in fact for his act of extraordinary rendition in sending Koenig to jail for writing his book about USAA.