User talk:MuffledThud

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		Everytime I go to RPP, there's always report from MuffledThud about pages needing salting or protecting, and that must mean a lot of work at NPP. Scanning through the patrol log backs that up. Keep up the good work! GedUK  14:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! MuffledThud (talk) 14:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Article deletion (C. James Block/Alexander D. Farris)

Dear sir/madame,

I believe it is inappropriate to suggest the deletion of the aforementioned pages. These two journalists are well-known in Michigan, United States and seem to be well-sourced enough for the length of the articles.

Thank you, Dajayhawk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dajayhawk (talk • contribs) 16:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I see you've already commented at the AFD discussion, thanks. MuffledThud (talk) 16:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Edits to Lambeth wards

Hi

Thanks for your edits to the little project I am working on currently - that of adding all 23 local government electoral wards in Lambeth. Please could you make them all consistent in titling - currently there is Coldharbour Ward but the rest are x ward and Larkhall ward is listed as larkhall (ward)

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lambethlife (talk • contribs) 22:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Done: see Category:Wards of Lambeth. Thanks for contributing all those articles! MuffledThud (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

"Mae's Lost Empire" page deletion

Hi could you explain why this page has been deleted? This isn't just another band page they're a signed act with an album out on worldwide distribution and management. Album's available in shops, people are going to want to know about these guys.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki woteva (talk • contribs) 11:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello. The article was deleted by an admin, who cited in the log "‎...Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject". The band don't appear to be notable yet, as there's no significant coverage of them online from WP:Reliable sources. But if you can find some reliable secondary sources showing that they are notable, I'd be happy to help you re-create the article. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Martin Alper

What do I need to do to establish notability on Martin Alper? Will the article be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaius Helen Mohiam (talk • contribs) 09:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome. The subject of that article appears to be non-notable per WP:BIO, and none of the references linked have any information on him. Can you find any WP:Reliable sources on him? If you like, I can move the article to a subpage of your user page while you work on it. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 09:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I added a source to the article, is that not enough? The reference mentions him on page 2 btw. Gaius Helen Mohiam (talk) 09:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Not yet, as the source doesn't actually mention him. MuffledThud (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

It does, on page 2. Gaius Helen Mohiam (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Aha, yes you're right, it's on page 2, I missed the update to your comment. Still, it only mentions him in passing: can you find any articles about Alper himself?

I'll try, there doesn't seem to be much on Google. Gaius Helen Mohiam (talk) 10:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, and please let me know if I can be of any help with this. MuffledThud (talk) 10:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, thank you. Gaius Helen Mohiam (talk) 10:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Paul Shyvers DIrector

Sorry about the edit clash. cheers Teapotgeorge^Talk 11:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries! Collaborative editing is like that... MuffledThud (talk) 11:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FYG

Hi MuffledThud, just dropping by to make three quick points:

1. I didn't close the debate.
2. I was not criticizing you, merely offering a piece of advice. I am sincerely sorry if you took it as criticism, as that was not how it was meant.
3. However, please also note that if a page can be deleted under CSD, then it's quicker and better to do so, rather than subjecting it to a AfD debate (that probably could have been snow'd anyway)

Kindest regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 20:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

You're right, you didn't close the debate. Apologies for the misunderstanding: it's been done to me before, but that's not your fault. MuffledThud (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem, that's happened to me too. Kind regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 21:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

It's normal practice to close an AfD per G7 if the author clearly requests deletion, and nobody else objects to deletion. Nothing was unusual about this case, so I closed the discussion. Regards, JamieS93 22:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Quite right: I was arguing that page-blanking is not acceptable for the purposes of closing an AFD, but explicitly requesting deletion (e.g. in an edit summary or a one-liner in the article, etc.) is an acceptable way. But I'm quoting the AFD template, not policy, so I could be wrong about this. MuffledThud (talk) 23:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Vajazzling

Yeah, you could have knocked me over with a feather, as the saying goes. The things people will say on television constantly astound me. Needless to say, I am in 100% agreement with your impulse to tag this as a made-up word. Frankly, I wish it HAD been a hoax. If the prod doesn't remain, let's agree to AfD this ASAP. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed.

PS: Eeeeew. MuffledThud (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Eeeeeeeew indeed. I think Swarovski should sue Jennifer Love Hewitt. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but consider the consequent Streisand effects... the helpful nightly diagrams on CNN... O tempora, o mores. MuffledThud (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

RogueX10 Ok, not sure I'm doing this right, but I found some solid refrences for this. Decided to leave out the pictures this time. Personally, as a woman, waxing and/or shaving is enough. Why do we need another step? But I guess if your business is looking beutiful, Why Not?

I've removed the advertising material that the above-noted editor added. I guess I'm just conflicted about whether this needs to go to AfD. It's certainly unbelievably vulgar, but the number of Google hits is giving me pause to think. Is this a peculiar case of WP:BLP1E, where Jennifer Love Hewitt is entirely responsible for this neologism and it will immediately die once her book tour is done? Dare I suggest that she is trying to promote her book by talking about decorating her vagina on national television? Of course there are now "salons" that will apply these pieces of glass for you and are willing to advertise that service, but you can find a commercial enterprise that's willing to do just about anything in the name of beauty. I just don't know. I surely have respect for the idea that Wikipedia is not censored, but at the same time I have to admit I don't WANT this to be a word. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I've tagged it for notability, as what's there (and the blurb you removed) don't appear to be WP:Reliable sources supporting notability. I guess we should give it some time to develop. MuffledThud (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

A co-worker tells me that this concept has been mentioned in a free paper that they hand out on the transportation system here, and the concept (although not the specific word) and its originator was known to a number of them, so I may have to swallow my distaste on this one. I guess part of my problem is that I don't think it's fair that Jennifer Love Hewitt gets to single-handedly add a stupid invented word to the English language when I delete things all the time posted by kids in primary school who have come up with silly names for body parts or functions; how am I ever going to tell them they can't add those neologisms to Wikipedia?. Perhaps I'll have to settle for cherishing the belief that it may well be the most significant thing she will ever accomplish. BTW, above, I should have said "talking on national television about decorating her vagina". The way I expressed myself was .... BRRRRrrrrrr. Don't even go there. Accounting4Taste:talk 23:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Things that pointless but Notable people say and do are notable, on Wikipedia. It's a mirror of our shallow and ephemeral culture. "The most spoiled brats on God's green earth", quoth Iggy. MuffledThud (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Take Off magazine

An article that you have been involved in editing, Take Off magazine, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Take Off magazine. Thank you.

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Shungit

Thanks for catching my bad paste on the url. (sigh) Eeekster (talk) 11:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Heh, no problem! Wish that was the worst mistake I'd made all week on WP... MuffledThud (talk) 11:13, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

UHY Hacker Young -- covered by reliable independent secondary sources?

You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

A tag has been placed on UHY Hacker Young requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Banaticus (talk) 17:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Putting in references

Hello MuffledThud,

Could you please help me with construction of the preclinical imaging page? I'm new to editing wikipedia.

I've outlined my problem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Preclinical_Imaging

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AXu.VSI (talk • contribs) 17:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you've worked it out for yourself before I had a chance to help. Nice work, thanks - the article is looking very good. MuffledThud (talk) 22:50, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Stupid questions?

Hello, I just added the Tieto Engineering Toolbox page into wiki. I read through the links behind the wiki tags and I fully understand the meaning and resoning behind those issues. Question 1: What is the biggest issue of the three tags? Question 2. How long time I have to correct those incidents before the page is deleted? As you can see, my concern is the page to not get deleted. So, please, give me advice how to a) keep the page in wiki and b) how to edit those pages in that manner which satisfies wiki standards. I think, the b) is tackled as I send those editions to you before publishing for validating? Yours, hytonen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hytonen (talk • contribs) 20:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome. These aren't stupid questions at all. The article hasn't been proposed for deletion yet, so don't worry, there's time to improve it. If you like, I can move it to a WP:Subpage of your user page for now, where you can work to improve it. Let me know what you think. MuffledThud (talk) 21:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Brent "Tha Bones" Jones

Hi Muffled,

I've removed your speedy deletion request from Brent "Tha Bones" Jones, which you tagged under G2 reasoning, as I do not see how the article is a test page. The page has been retagged as a hoax (perhaps you meant to tag it as a hoax, but accidentally chose the option above it). Just wanted to give you a little heads-up. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem: both categories fit in my opinion, but I tend to tag articles that appear to be meant as harmless jokes rather than deliberate deception as db-test rather than db-hoax - slightly less WP:BITEy. Even so, I won't dispute your change. MuffledThud (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Josephjames21 archive page move

Okay, thanks. Sorry if I wasn't clear on the proper procedure when creating pages like that. Thanks again! :-) Nightscream (talk) 21:56, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries! Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 21:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Marking pages as patrolled

Hi there. I thought I'd stop by and inform you that it's usually customary to patrol newpages after you've tagged them for speedy deletion, the reason being so that someone doesn't look at the article only to find out that it's already tagged. There is a link at the bottom of the unpatrolled page when you navigate to the page from Special:NewPages itself, and if you plan on tagging it for CSD it's usually wise to click this link. There is also a userscript that does this automatically, which can be turned on in your preferences under "Gadgets". Cheers! The Thing // Talk // Contribs 13:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm doing NPP with Twinkle: must be yet another bug on that. :-) I was thinking switching to Huggle... :-)

Well Huggle is more of an anti-vandalism tool. I personally don't like it as a NPP tool. I do use a script that works wonders for NPP though. Try adding this to your monobook.js:

importScript('User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js');
npp_num_pages = 10;

It puts a constantly updating list of newpages into your sidebar. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 13:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, using that one too, thanks. Got everything but a hotplate hanging off my monobook.js. MuffledThud (talk) 14:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Andre Spooner is a notable figure in the entire of Sussex - is he not worthy of your encyclopedia? Coffeepot101 (talk) 15:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

All I know is that I can find nothing about him online. Please see WP:CREATIVE for guidelines on notability for journalists. If you can find references supporting notability, I'd be glad to help you work them into the article. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

The latin phonetic method of Shanghainese

Thank you, for your message.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Yk2l1Iw5VasJ:www.wuunion.com/home/html/wugniutzyseq1/2009/0831/5.html+%E5%90%B4%E8%AF%AD%E6%8B%89%E4%B8%81%E5%BC%8F%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3%E4%BB%8B%E7%BB%8D+wuunion&cd=4&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

There were some troubles when posting or publishing this article. The webpage is blocked by P.R.China’s government and was blocked by Wikipedia due to some you-know-it political reasons. I wish, Wikipedia’s decision will definitely not be influenced by Chinese 50 Cent Party. You reflect, Please. Thank you. --ZHU Yeyi (talk) 16:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

The draft of The Latin Phonetic Method of Shanghainese (LPMS) was published for the first time in 2001; its latest version was decided after a couple of revises and updates in 2003. It is the first Shanghainese phonetic notation which had been popularized on internet and the only Shanghainese phonetic notation designed based on Western linguistic spelling traditions. In 2004, the first Shanghainese Input Methods for Computers complying with LPMS was developed and formally published.

External links of The latin phonetic method of Shanghainese:

• 吳語注音輸入
• 吴语拉丁字母注音法
• Template:Fr Input shanghaïen
• Latin Phonetic Method of Shanghainese
• the latin method
• 上海话语音有声word教材
• P14
• 上海话
• 吴语拼音方案
• 上海话家教
• 吴语(上海话)拼音 新浪文化教育
• 上海话语音详析

I assure you that my tagging this reposted article is not influenced by any political parties, either here or in China. If the reviewing admins determine that the article is substantially different to that reviewed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The latin phonetic method of Shanghainese, then it won't be deleted. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 16:19, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

thank you.

Involves this person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_latin_phonetic_method_of_Shanghainese

--ZHU Yeyi (talk) 17:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Ray York

You all can publish stories about mythology of demons, and dreams of people who may of never existed...but let someone bring the knowledge that they have collected about an individual over the years, and you all delete it because you lack the knowledge about the individual. This is a snuff encyclopedia...I think I should use a more renowned encyclopedia that understands just cause a name isn't well known doesn't mean it doesn't exist! I will definitely take this higher than you MuffledTard! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethenite29 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I didn't delete your articles, as I'm not an admin: two admins deleted them. Please feel free to post a really urgent complaint about me at Wikipedia:ANI if you feel you've been wronged. Note, however, that they might just take a dim view of all the random Mister-Angry deletions you've been doing for the past half-hour. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 16:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem :) - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 17:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for removing the vandalism from my userpage. That reaction was clearly related to the AfD discussions about Imagineer Magazine. Makes you wonder if the literary skill he employed on my page is reflective of the journal's quality? --MelanieN (talk) 16:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Anytime. Yes, it does seem to be related to the Imagineer editors' AFD. Note the cunning use of an IP sock, to mask his Secret Identity.  :-) MuffledThud (talk) 16:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Andre Spooner prod

I've endorsed your proposed deletion, however if you read the article and check the 'references' I think it's clear that this article is a hoax. The guy just comments on news stories on the Argus website - as anyone with an internet connection can. You may wish to nominate it for speedy deletion instead.   pablo_hablo. 16:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Good idea, thanks. MuffledThud (talk) 16:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Notability Schools

Hi MuffledThud. Just want to ask what are the currect thoughts on elementary schools articles with no sign of individual notability such as Country Oaks Elementary? I would have considered redirecting this. Polargeo (talk) 15:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello there. There was an attempt at this: see WP:Notability (schools). My own opinion is that all established schools are likely to be notable, and any defunct ones that were around for a significant length of time. This view isn't universally shared though, so I'd like to see some consensus around a new proposal for notability guidelines. MuffledThud (talk) 15:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought it was something like this. I am more of the oppinion that lots of separate stubs on these schools are not a good thing but you are right in that some sort of policy would help. Polargeo (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the cleanup

Thanks for cleaning up the dab Characteristic exponent. I don't think I've created a dab before and wasn't sure what to do. Help:Disambiguation was pretty useless, and other examples I saw had links. Now I know. RobHar (talk) 16:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

You're quite welcome! Thanks for all the excellent work you're doing in the mathematics articles. MuffledThud (talk) 16:21, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Gretel II (yacht) - speedy delete

Please go ahead and delete and I will construct a better article without copyright problems etc. Thanks Boatman (talk) 11:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks. MuffledThud (talk) 11:07, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Help Me with National Wildlife Magazine Page Description

Hi MuffledThud - please see my note back to you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgbroitman (talk • contribs)

Thank you MuffledThud! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgbroitman (talk • contribs)

Happy to help. MuffledThud (talk) 14:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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Appreciate all of our helpful input as I'm new at this. In terms of integrating into the National Wildlife Federation Page, there is and has always been a separate page for NWF's other pub Ranger Rick so would seem to make sense to have separate page for the flagship publication too. Also too, we are gearing up for our 50th anniversary. So plan to put more history in this article. Should interest people who have read the publication through the years.

Page deletion now to stay for ' Mark Boardman'

New links have been added by wikipedia users to show notability and that his T4 show exists. Notable links come from Locate TV, Guardian, National newspaper and the Channel 4 website for the celeb blogger / journalist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.127.194 (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

New Page Patrol

Hello there! Just reminding you it's useful to mark pages as patrolled once you tag them for speedy deletion, etc. Thanks! GorillaWarfare ^talk 20:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it's a bug in WP:Twinkle. I'll start checking manually until it gets fixed. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this is the second time I've run into that bug. GorillaWarfare ^talk 20:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Jamiatu Muslim Mindanao Speedy Deletion - Please don't delete

Hello MuffledThud

Good day, I am new here in Wikipedia, i have only one contribution and its Jamiatu Muslim Mindanao, i tried to add another article but it was under Wikipedia's Copyright violations.

Now i tried to fix the problem, can you please don't delete my article and kindly remove the speedy deletion tags?

Thank you for your cooperation.

Hansme333 (talk) 10:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It's still almost completely copyrighted text copied from another site. Please re-write it in your own words. If you'd like some help with this, please let me know. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, actually the file or document that Wikipedia thinks copyrighted from another site IS MINE, I am the owner of that file came from scribd.com (http://www.scribd.com/doc/26606973/JMM-Institutional-Information-2010) I already delete that file.

what should I do next? please help.

or kindly please consider my request to remove the speedy deletion of my article mentioned.

Thanks a lot MuffledThud

Hansme333 (talk) 11:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, please have a read of WP:IOWN. I'll change the speedy to a copyvio tag while this gets sorted out. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Rory Kelly

Hello MuffledThud. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rory Kelly, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: importance asserted - plays for important irish team. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 14:33, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, my mistake: thought he was a youth team player. I'm improving the article now, as penance... Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 14:34, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries, I wasn't sure how big a team that was or whether he'd actually appeared yet. I've added some cats but if you can reference it that would be great. ϢereSpielChequers 14:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Just added two. :-) MuffledThud (talk) 14:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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Why thank you. Aha, I know, just who might like one of these. Passing it on now. MuffledThud (talk) 14:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Non-Serbs

It is not right Muffled Thud. I am trying to create a good article based on sources and facts. It is no more an essay than the other articles on here. We can resculpt it a bit but it really needs to stay. It's got lots of sources. Wikipeacekeeper (talk) 10:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, the sources given don't cover what's asserted in the article. Even the name is problematic. I'd be happy to help you rewrite it in the WP:Article Incubator, if you're interested. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll give that a go and help you as best I can. Maybe it does need a lot of rewriting. I am trying to get a point across and I thought those sources helped. I'd be more than happy if while it stayed on the AFD list, you edited the sentences, the article is there for all, not just me. Wikipeacekeeper (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)