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::I did not know about the [[Special:EmailUser]] feature and when I click on the link you provided it takes me to a page titled "No target", so I guess that I still do not know about the [[Special:EmailUser]] feature. And no, I have no idea what your response will be. I would think that wrongly blocking someone for being something that they are not would be an egregious violation of the spirit of an organization such as Wikipedia. I would think that you would provide the specific evidence that you claim confirms that I am a sock puppet, so that I would have a chance to rebut it. But, I guess I am wrong about that. [[User:Brain.wilson|Brain.wilson]] ([[User talk:Brain.wilson#top|talk]]) 20:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::I did not know about the [[Special:EmailUser]] feature and when I click on the link you provided it takes me to a page titled "No target", so I guess that I still do not know about the [[Special:EmailUser]] feature. And no, I have no idea what your response will be. I would think that wrongly blocking someone for being something that they are not would be an egregious violation of the spirit of an organization such as Wikipedia. I would think that you would provide the specific evidence that you claim confirms that I am a sock puppet, so that I would have a chance to rebut it. But, I guess I am wrong about that. [[User:Brain.wilson|Brain.wilson]] ([[User talk:Brain.wilson#top|talk]]) 20:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::My response would be and is "I am not going to unblock you". End of story. And quit spamming my blog. That is the last time you do that. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::My response would be and is "I am not going to unblock you". End of story. And quit spamming my blog. That is the last time you do that. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

::::That would not really be responsive to the question "Why did you block my account?". But, then, you don't really care about being responsive, do you.

:::You may also appeal your block to the Arbitration Committee (where they may review any possible CheckUser misconduct) at [mailto:arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org]. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::You may also appeal your block to the Arbitration Committee (where they may review any possible CheckUser misconduct) at [mailto:arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org]. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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February 2010

Information icon Hello, I'm [[User:{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}]]. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Martin Heidegger that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}|my talk page]]. Thank you. --Snowded TALK 22:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did not "attack" anyone. You repeatedy attacked me as a "sock puppet" and refuse to discuss the issue on the talk page, claiming that "the debate has moved on". Brain.wilson (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The debate had moved on, you needed to engage with where that debate was, rather than something which has already stale. Reading the talk page is not an unreasonable burden. Given the recent history of the page, and the fact that your behaviour matched (and matches) that of our serial sock my suspicion was reasonable. The way to overcome that is to act in a civilised fashion, strike your nonsensical accusations and discuss content only. --Snowded TALK 22:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My rebuttal was made on Feb. 17th to a post made on Feb. 13th. The debate had certainly not moved on, despite your assertions to the contrary. In fact, on Feb. 22nd, your yourself wrote "I'm happy for the lede to reference Nazi not National Socialism and open to a quote. However we need to clear out the sock and then discuss". Since you admit that the subject was still open to discussion on Feb.22nd, in what way had the debate moved on?
As to the reasonableness of your suspicion of sock puppetry, I am not a sock puppet. So regardless of how reasonable or unreasonable your suspicion is, you are wrong. And, rather than respond substantively to my points, you choose to simply attack me as a sock puppet.
I have tried repeatedly to discuss content, yet you consistently respond with personal attacks completely devoid of substance. There is nothing whatsoever uncivilized about my behavior. Perhaps you need to stop worrying so much about the behavior of those that you disagree with and worry more about your own.Brain.wilson (talk) 03:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Aside from a reasonable suspicion that you were the latest instantiation of a serial sock I have made no personal attacks of any nature. If you can find an example feel free to point it out. That does not compare favourably with you suggesting that I was attempting to "obfuscate Heigegger's involvement with Nazism". I suggest you pay some attention to what is said on the talk page and also to your own behaviour. If you don't then sooner or later you will fall foul of wikipedia process. --Snowded TALK 05:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just in the posts on this page alone, you have accused me of engaging in suspicious behavior, of being uncivilized, of making nonsensical accusations, and of failing to discuss content. Perhaps these are not personal attacks in your mind, but they are in mine.
As for my claim that you attempt to "obfuscate Heigegger's involvement with Nazism", your refusal to respond substantively to my arguments leaves me with no alternative conclusion.
Rather than continuing your repeated threats about what will happen if I do not behave as you "suggest", I suggest you worry about your own behaviour and respond substantively to what is said on the talk page. Brain.wilson (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Elizabeth Cheney. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. I have no liking for Dick Cheney, but Wikipedia has strict standards on biographies. I suggest you spend some time using the help pages referenced above and learn how to edit here. --Snowded TALK 22:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as a sock puppet

You have been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet. (blocked by –MuZemike 03:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]
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Request reason:

I am not a sock puppet. I apparently am accused of being a sock puppet simply because I agree with another editor that Nazis should be called "Nazis" not "National Socialists". Since I am not a sock puppet, you could not possibly have any evidence that I am a sock puppet.

Decline reason:

I've double checked the checkuser findings, and they are as described. Checkuser verified sock puppet of banned or blocked editor. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason:

You can keep repeating it as often as you like. I am not a sock puppet, so you could not possibly confirm that I am one. Apparently, the claim that anyone can edit Wikipedia is a lie.

Decline reason:

Checkuser results are fairly reliable.  f o x  (formerly garden) 19:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason:

If something is "fairly reliable", it means that it is sometimes wrong. This is one of those times. I am not a sock puppet. How do you handle those situations in which CheckUser is wrong?

Decline reason:

This is your last chance. You can post a substantive unblock request or lose the privilege of editing this page. TNXMan 20:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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I have no idea what you mean by a substantive unblock request. You have not provided me with any substantive information to rebut. You say that I am a sock puppet. I tell you that I am not. What information do I need to provide to you to provide a substantive unblock request?

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You were  Confirmed by a CheckUser as a sock. And please stop spamming my blog. Regards, –MuZemike 16:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could not be confirmed as a sock, since I am not a sock puppet. Perhaps there is something wrong with your confirmation methodology.Brain.wilson (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did post a comment to your blog, asking why you blocked me. I did not see any other way to contact you. You have blocked me (permanently) for being something that I am not. I would think Wikipedia admins would be averse to censorship. But, apparently they are not only not averse to it, they actively participate in it.
In any event, sending you a message via your blog would not be characterized as "spamming" under any reasonable definition of the word.
You could have emailed me via the Special:EmailUser feature. However, you know my response so don't bother doing that. –MuZemike 19:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know about the Special:EmailUser feature and when I click on the link you provided it takes me to a page titled "No target", so I guess that I still do not know about the Special:EmailUser feature. And no, I have no idea what your response will be. I would think that wrongly blocking someone for being something that they are not would be an egregious violation of the spirit of an organization such as Wikipedia. I would think that you would provide the specific evidence that you claim confirms that I am a sock puppet, so that I would have a chance to rebut it. But, I guess I am wrong about that. Brain.wilson (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My response would be and is "I am not going to unblock you". End of story. And quit spamming my blog. That is the last time you do that. –MuZemike 20:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would not really be responsive to the question "Why did you block my account?". But, then, you don't really care about being responsive, do you.
You may also appeal your block to the Arbitration Committee (where they may review any possible CheckUser misconduct) at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org. –MuZemike 20:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]