Talk:Saint Patrick's Day

Need some more history in Ireland

I came on to see how far observances and practices go back. I was a bit disappointed, as the entirety of the information preceding the 20th century was "In the past, Saint Patrick's Day was celebrated as a religious holiday. It became a public holiday in 1903..." in the history section and a short bit in the lead about when it officially became a feast day, but also indicating it was observed before that point. Almost the entirety of the "history" section deals with 1990 and after. The absence of earlier history is underlined by the fact that the Canada and USA sections describe practices back to the 18th century. IMHO (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Irish but as far as I know there's not really a lot more to say about it. It used to be an extra day to go to church and visit family and that was about it. I suspect that it's always been a bigger deal in the US and Canada (and other foreign countries) than in Ireland, people tend to become a lot more patriotic when they're away from their own country, especially when they're in a minority. Big, public celebrations were probably a great way for Irish immigrants to encorage a sense of community and generally feel less alone in their new home.

However if it can be confirmed by someone who knows for sure that what we've got now is pretty much all there is to say it might be worth explaining that, just to make it clear that it's not a case of not knowing. (And of course if that is the problem it'd be even better if someone who knows more could add the info.) I'd follow Wiki advice and be bold about it but like I said I don't know for sure. Danikat (talk) 17:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Moscow?

A detail about how Moscow celebrates St. Patrick's Day was added a while back. It's odd that it's now no longer there, considering the fact that the Mayor of Dublin recently attended the parade herself, along with the fact that the reason the parade takes place was due to a collaborative effort between Aer Rianta and Moscow City. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudeglove (talk • contribs) 15:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a legitimate detail. You should re-add it. --24.20.129.18 (talk) 03:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Controversy (NYC parade)

Why is there no mention in the article of GLBT groups being banned from marching in the NYC parade? "Undue weight" to the article is a bullshit argument, btw, so you're going to have to think of something else. This is 2010. --24.20.129.18 (talk) 03:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

This article is about Saint Patrick's Day. Not about St Patrick Day parades, not about New York, and not about past controversies in the NYC parade. Yes, it talks of parades and the parade in New York, but if we are to cover all the detail of every parade's history, politics and controversies we would have a ridiculously long, and unfocussed article. The article is quite long enough as it is.

If you think the subject is notable and have adequate sources, why don't you create either a New York Saint Patrick's Day Parade article, or even a New York Saint Patrick's Day Parade GLBT Controversy article?

See also previous discussion on this.

--Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 18:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Saint Patrick Day

Boulder Colorado has a parade as well as Denver Colorado - EVERY YEAR - Please, bring your page up to date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.97.140.2 (talk) 20:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Extra St Patrick's Day resource

Hi, I would like to suggest an extra website resource: the St Patrick's Day section of discoverireland.com (Tourism Ireland's website). The site has information on origins and traditions as well as events going on around the world each year in celebration of St Patrick's Day. The relevant page on the discoverireland.com site is: http://www.discoverireland.com/gb/about-ireland/experience-ireland/st-patricks-day/ Look forward to receiving thoughts. Many thanks Krstan (talk) 12:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Date in 2008

I find it odd that there are many erroneous references to St Patrick's Day being celebrated on the 15th. It was actually on the 14th, because St Joseph's Day also fell during Holy Week and was moved to the 15th, therefore causing St Patrick's Day to be moved to the 14th. FlyingOtter (talk)

Commercialisation section?

I wonder if there should be a "commercialisation of St. Patrick's Day" section? St. Patrick's Day in the UK at least is heavily promoted by Guinness and other drinks companies and I wonder if there should be discussion as the commercial influences on how the day is celebrated. I can't think of another internationally celebrated religious festival that is so heavily associated with a single commercial product - the kind of marketing and association Coca-Cola and others would do anything for!--mgaved (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Public Holiday

Just made a small edit and added to the para. describing places where St. Patrick's Day is a public holiday. The previous version stated only Ireland including N. Ireland. Newfoundland and Labrador and Montserrat have been added to the list. Please see below for sources:

Newfoundland: http://www.exec.gov.nl.ca/exec/pss/working_with_us/holidays2010.html Montserrat: http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/179/public_holidays/Caribbean/Montserrat.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by M. (talk • contribs) 06:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Philadelphia 2nd or 3rd

Why do any google search produce that Philadelphia is the 2nd oldest rather then third. a search with the third produces resutls with the word second. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=philadelphia+st+patrick%27s+day+parade+3rd+oldest&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=bf62906be5292fd6