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issues with Wiki page uploads

Hi: Thanks for your tips. Let me find out what other external resources I can link to, as well as find out if I can choose a different username via author. This is my first wiki article, let me tell you it's not that easy, so I appreciate your comments and help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Autismconversations (talk • contribs) 19:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

setting my page live

Thank you for the feedback. I have amended my page following suggestions from an editor. How do I now set it live? Batterybuzz (talk) 07:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the cleanup on Frank Key

Nice one --Salimfadhley (talk) 17:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Glad to know somebody's watching! I'll go back to adding more/better edit summaries. As an aside, I have a User Page article about the ICC AllStars that I'd like made into an article for footnoting to be added. Can you make it an article (or advise how I can best do so)? Thanks again.Keith Ellis (talk) 19:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Another Q -- the Dave DeJernett article now has 30 references. How may I request removal of its being "tagged" for lack of references? Thank you.Keith Ellis (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Help get mainspace ready!

Hi, I am trying to get my article on Steiner Electric Company in the mainspace but want to make sure it is ready and fits all of the qualifications. I am a bit overwhelmed with all the specifics as to what needs to be done so it does not get deleted. Please help, you've been great in the past!! Lizzard388 (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks for providing me info on my talk page about deleted entries. Honestly, the best way for me to learn how to use Wiki is to make mistakes and get feed back like yours. My article did get deleted :( but I'm going to contact one of the admins to move it back to my user space. Thanks for providing me the link. Much appreciated Mytwocents02 (talk) 22:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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hi!

hi ukexpat.

i'm new to wikipedia and thought i'd start off with a page on a company I lean on heavily and use all the time.

after asking for the page to "Go Live", you commented that the page is "Spammy" (i didnt really undertsnad what you mean). becasue, to me, 'spammy' means that I am sending unsolicited emails to people or harassing in some way or another.

about notability: do I need to give more references to sources and events?

what needs to be done to rectify?

- (am I likely to run into these problems every time I create a page for something that I admire or wish to share?)

COPY OF WHAT YOU WROTE: Oppose - insufficient references to support notability, also very spammy. – ukexpat (talk) 02:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

my contributed page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coverlifestudios/photoproductions

many thanks,

C.L.S. Coverlifestudios (talk) 12:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

HD

I don't think that was necessary. That newbie was only making an assumption. I'm quite convinced that it will never happen. :) Kayau Voting IS evil 14:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Additional new articles

ukexpat -- any luck looking at the Keith Ellis user page to put the brief ICC All-Stars paragraph into Article form? I'll add footnotes & maybe flesh it out a bit more afterward. Thanks so much.Keith Ellis (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

ukexpat -- I added a second article to the Keith Ellis User Page, entitled the "Chicago Crusaders." If you can add it as well I will commence to produce footnotes/references. Thanks!Keith Ellis (talk) 00:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Vitaled/Jamie McCartney

Hi Ukexpat,

Thank you so much for your speedy feedback. I'll address the issues you raised today and re-submit the article.

Vitaled (talk) 08:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

you are mistaken, you are very hard on a newcomer

Listen, I do not know of some other advertising, but you are wrong to put this serious attempt as an article for deletion without normal etiquette or respect, nor reading the references.

I presume you overdosed on your native sarcasm, I am sorry that you head aches when presented with a new idea.

After some years trying to disprove it, I have become an independent and unaffiliated expert on Human Design, it is something and it is notable. That is why I decided to come here and find INTELLIGENT people, for example Oxbridge, who care about empiricism and truth and what on earth is this new thing - it is surely not what you think, if, I presume, you still are open to any new ideas? Headache! Thinking is good for you, Mr expat. New ideas, try some.

Why do you not allow others to read the article and the references? Your head aches? Take an aspirin and read it again.

Why not learn to read it and the references for yourself, or did they not cover that at Oxford, my university had a lighter blue.

A Schopenhauer said, new truth goes through three phases, ridicule, violently opposed, and widely accepted. I sense that we reach the second stage here, your attack was just bullying to a serious newcomer

Support me, I am new here, and I have a valid point of view. Put it back and let others also read and decide. We need time to check these references out and get page numbers and so on.

That is normal wiki etiquette, OK Mikemahalo (talk) 14:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

maybe I missed your post - it is like a maze here, I see that you did at least consider the points, even so, why did you not give a chance for myself and others to CORRECT this? Is MAINSPACE so sacred? Is this how wikipedia started? Is this the spirit of wikipedia, if so, you have allowed it to become mean and you did not respect the reasonableness of the guidelines that I have read. Put it back for at least a couple of days, and assist me, now I have to know how to move it back to my own space with the latest edits, retrieve it, please assist me, I know you mean only to keep wikipedia clean, but I also did a reasonable first attempt here. Mikemahalo (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I apologise if you felt personally attacked. I suppose I felt that too, you dismissed my hard work, and painful removal of so much that was really unsuitable, with your native sarcasm - your head aches? You proposed deletion Too Fast. ALL the information for newcomers says we have a few days to improve our sources, you decided not to follow that, and it seems you have the power, and powerful friends, to laugh at the sincere efforts I put in here. My reference sources are fine, you are applying stricter rules to this article because of previous problems with other contributors, who did not understand the rules, at least I got some understanding, I changed the article TO THE SPECIFICATIONS but you moved the goal posts with further rules that are not in the information for newcomers. So my references are not tuned to exact page numbers, but YOU did not check them or their quality nor allow anyone else. I got the message from feedback and decided, ok, it says we have a couple of days, others will surely join if I start, there is a lot of interest now. But now NOBODY can find my user original or the article. Nowhere does it say, oh, your text will disappear and nobody can find the final changes. Mikemahalo (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

thank you

hello ukexpat. thank you for getting in touch... i'm really confused and am hoping someone with some more wiki experience (like yourself) can help me get this article posted. i read thoroughly all the up-front rules and regulations on what is a valid post and what is not, and i believe the piece complies...

i've gotten a bit confused, though, with the actual process of posting it. is there anything you can do to help me get it live?

thank you!

best, misterajp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misterajp (talk • contribs) 14:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I have resolved several issues ...

Orphan: This page is no longer orphaned. It links to several other Wikipedia pages. Citations: Inline citations have been inserted where appropriate. Wikify: This page has been duly Wikified. Neutrality: The neutrality was posted as being problematic, but I don't see any specific messages on my talk page. I think solving these other issues should solve this issue also.

What's next? Please notify me of what else I need to do so the page appears in a clean format. Thank you. :> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadlinedd (talk • contribs) 07:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I got the part about citations ...

I do link to two YouTube videos, but they belong to the organization the subject represents so it follows Wikipedia guidelines regarding ownership. Thank you for responding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadlinedd (talk • contribs) 08:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Input citations, however ...

Under the References section, red ink suggest I haven't put in title names. I can fix that, but when I click on edit for that section, the actual references don't show up. What should I do to fix this aspect of the piece? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadlinedd (talk • contribs) 09:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

YFZ Ranch page

There are a number of what would seem to ME, to be Vandals on the YFZ Ranch page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:YFZ_Ranch#Court_Rulings ) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch#Court_rulings ). To say they are difficult to negotiate with is an understatement. Behind the scenes in discussion I post my reasons for edits, wait, and then receive no reply. I post the edits which are (at least recently), copiously notated from links to court documents and exact quotes from them, and I am accused of bias.

Indeed I have a bias as we all do, but the three contributors removing the edits and complaining refuse to allow even the title of the court motions that have passed be used, stating that those wholly adopted motions themselves represent a "POV." The short form of the discussion is as follows. Evidence seized at the YFZ Ranch is subject to an ongoing dispute in the extant appeal of Raymond Jessop's conviction. It was initially ruled acceptable by the Judge in Raymond's criminal case, and by the Judge who signed the warrant for the raid. At present evidence flowing from that raid is considered acceptable in Texas court cases.

The evidence though, has been ruled inadmissible in Arizona using precisely the same arguments (modified to fit Arizona law) as were used in Texas. A motion was made 9/3/08 that was finally ruled on 2/5/10, in which the Court wholly adopted the 9/3/08 motion by assenting to the terms of a 2/4/10 stipulation of the defense and prosecution which simply stated that the motion of 9/3/08 be adopted. In both that stipulation, and in the original motion, the raid was termed "Unlawful," for Arizona purposes.

All of this was linked as footnotes to original court documents. Direct though short quotes were employed in those documents to make the entry appear as follows:

On February 5, 2010, Arizona Judge Steven F. Conn approved a Stipulation[57] from the previous day between Mohave County prosecutor Matt Smith and Warren Jeffs' defense attorney, Michael Piccarreta, that evidence seized from the YFZ Ranch in Texas would not be used in any manner in Warren Jeffs' two criminal trials in Arizona. [58] [59]Based on the agreement of the attorneys, Judge Conn issued an order granting the defense "Motion to Suppress Evidence Obtained in Unlawful Searches of FLDS Property" and canceled a hearing on the issue.[60]. Jeffs' first of two trials on charges of being an accomplice to sexual conduct with a minor is scheduled to begin November 2, 2010. [61]

This entry itself is a result of several revisions in which care was taken to attend to the complaints of "BlueSooner," "RonLawHouston," and "Hope4Kids." There is absolutely nothing untruthful about it whatsoever, and in fact it has as I said, been rewritten to more or less accommodate their complaints.

Edits have been made to complain that the sources were "improper" based on the name used for those sources, even though the source was a direct link to the Mohave County Arizona Court site, and the complete documents there.

None of the three will acknowledge that the raid was deemed "unlawful" and until recently have refused even to acknowledge (sometimes loudly on their own blogs) that the evidence was even suppressed in Arizona. There are few public references to this evidentiary challenge and eventual exclusion in Arizona, the sole reference being by Salt Lake Tribune reporter Brooke Adams. ( http://166.70.44.68/blogs/plurallife/2010/02/conn-grants-suppression-order/ ) This addition to the Wikipedia entry would make it accurate with regard to subsequent important court cases directly tied to the raid. Hugh McBryde 13:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)--Hugh McBryde 13:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugh McBryde (talk • contribs)

YFZ Ranch - Court rulings

FYI as regards to Hugh McBryde - we are trying to use the procedures to resolve disputes and have initiated an RfC. I have requested that all parties refrain from changing the page. I have requested page protection to stop the edit war and to allow cooler heads to prevail. If you have any suggestions for me to assist in resolving this, I would be appreciative. Thank you. (BlueSooner (talk) 16:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC))

New basketball articles

Amigo ukexpat -- are the two articles on the Keith Ellis user page okay to be put into finished article form? If you can add them, I will then proceed to footnote them. Many thanks & best regards, Keith Ellis (talk) 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

ukexpat -- thanks for the reply. I copied/pasted both articles as instructed. Will start adding references soon.Keith Ellis (talk) 00:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Where is the Human Design Article by Mike Mahalo now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mikemahalo/Human_Design is blank - can the article be put back there now, or is it to be undeleted and restored to mainspace. Because "If it is likely that significant coverage in independent sources can be found for a topic, deletion due to lack of notability is inappropriate unless active effort has been made to find these sources. For articles of unclear notability, deletion should be a last resort." wikiguidelines --111.118.151.56 (talk) 15:17, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

It's been deleted for the fifth time. I cannot undelete as I am not an admin so I have advised Mike Mahalo how to request that am admin undelete it to userspace. Please check this redlink for extracts from the deletion log. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 22:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Jamie McCartney

Hi there,

You kindly commented on my article about Jamie McCartney and I have now edited the article, toned it down somewhat and changed the formatting of the references that are left. Would you have time to have another look and see if it's ready to publish now, please? Your help is much appreciated.

Kind regards

Vitaled (talk) 18:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Sherif Sonbol

Hi, thanks so much for taking the time to help with the Sherif Sonbol article. I really appreciate it. --Welle 1 (talk) 19:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I want my Orphan page to be adopted ..

Ukexpat: I've resolved several issues with you guidance. One last issue is the fact that my page is an Orphan. I would like to link my subject's page to his father and brother's page, to start (that makes the most sense to me). However, when linking within, say, from his father's page, his full name is not listed, just his first and middle name, so my link goes nowhere. How can I make this work? Deadlinedd (talk) 03:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC) deadlinedd (deb)

Ultimate Software

Dear Ukexpat, Thank you for your time and feedback. I will make the revisions you suggested for Ultimate Software. I updated my User Page Dporcaro to indicate my employer, which is suggested in your response (WP:COI). Please let me know if I should include this information elsewhere. Kindly, Dporcaro (talk)

Do you have any suggestions for how I can get around this problem? (I'm new to Wikipedia...) Maybe putting a space between the colon and the "Theory" (though the artist's official band name doesn't have this space...)