Talk:Alejandro (song)

Song not single.

Someone please delete or revert this article back to the "Other Songs" category.

"The Sun" is not a reliable source. Someone please get rid of this ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.144.123 (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

No there has been far to much war editing and to little discussion on this recently. The iTunes source http://itunes.apple.com/se/album/alejandro-single/id339247400 showing it already released, a source which in the text, is enough to show it's a single. SunCreator (talk) 18:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

-- That's a promotional single, just like "Dance In The Dark". Before the "The Fame Monster" was released both "Dance In The Dark" and "Alejandro" were released as promo singles. That article is for an iTunes page that is for the promo single and it isn't even in the US or Canada. It doesn't prove anything. This article needs to be reverted to the promo single or other songs format. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.144.123 (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Not promotional. Promotional singles are 'not' available to be bought by the public and this can be bought on iTunes now. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree this needs to be converted to the songs, untill a better confirmation comes. iTunes is not a staple for reliable confirmation regarding singles SunCreator. And that Swedish release was before TFM was released universally. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

i agree with legolas, however this was released 15 feb, two months after the fame monster was released there. i think it should be considered a promo until its gets full release (or maybe this is just an alternate release for sweden, like britney did for i love rock n roll, and anticipating etc) However, ITunes IS a reliable source, because the record company are the people who put those releases up, there for making it extremely reliable because its what her record company has choses to release in format, date etc.--Apeaboutsims (talk) 23:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't see your issue with iTunes, previously you said iTunes was a WP:RS. What is the issue with a retailer that is selling an item already and has been doing do for almost a month. Are you saying that it's some sort of forgery? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

iTunes is a reliable source, for tracklisting and outlets. But confirmation regarding a single? No way. That comes from some official source like the artist's recording company, or MTV, BBC. Stuff like that. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Singles get music videos, not songs. Why are you so reluctant to say this is a single, no one has said it's not a single yet people have said it is. 206.45.0.225 (talk) 22:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

And where can I view this music video? Oh, wait. There is none. We are not a crystal ball. It's a future single. Nymf _hideliho! 22:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Even that is not fully correct Nymf. No reliable source has reported that it is the third single, unlike Telephone, which was deemed as the second single, long time back by a number of reported sources. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

This might sound irrelevant or not needed to be said, but just to inform people that 'Dance In the Dark' has begun to receive heavy air-play in Australia, I don't know whether or not it's because she is currently in the Australia touring and that has caused it to be a promotional/radio single. What does this mean? --Sticky&Sweet12 (talk) 11:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Radio doesnot chooses based on Record Company promotion, it chooses to play songs on their own. If "Dance in the Dark" is receiving promotion in Aus, opposite is "Monster", which is receiving airplay in US and Can + Alejandro. It depends on the record company if they want to release it now. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:23, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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Someone please just revert this until Interscope, Cherrytree, or Streamline, releases some kind of statement making this official. Nothing is for sure a lot of the information from the article is unreliable, we should just put this on hold until someone can find something 100% reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.144.123 (talk) 02:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

iTunes Sweden shows selling it as a "SINGLE". Is that reliable?—Iknow23 (talk) 02:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I removed the itunes sweden date...shall i add it back?.....it was just for promo purposes....we all knew that in February "Telephone" was announced as the second single.....Charleysgrilledsubs (talk) 16:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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No it's not reliable because it reads "Promo single". If your calling it a single based on that than "Dance In The Dark" might as well be a single. When "Telephone" was chosen it had confirmation from the record label, it was also just released last month so I doubt Gaga would be in a hurry to release another single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.144.123 (talk) 23:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

its the next single : http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16691

http://www.allaccess.com/top40-mainstream/cool-new-music

plus: http://itunes.apple.com/se/album/alejandro-single/id339247400 (and the promo's for dance in the dark and alejandro were released 10th of november, and then removed. this was re-released).--110.175.56.28 (talk) 00:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree with 110... / The iTunes link they gave does NOT show 'Promo' anywhere that I can see.—Iknow23 (talk) 04:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The confirmation from FMQB is more than reliable, not that from the iTunes. The allaccess link is unreliable because it is listed as Cool New Music, which is subject to change. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Disagree. iTunes already happened. FMQB is for a FUTURE event which might be cancelled. So what has ACTUALLY happened is more reliable than what 'is scheduled to happen'.—Iknow23 (talk) 05:07, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

It still doesn't fit why she would release this having just released "Telephone" 2 months prior. On top of that this entire ordeal should be resolved when the next single is actually announced by a source that can be traced to her or her label. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.144.123 (talk) 08:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I have a suggestion: instead of arguing for several more months about whether or not it's a single, why don't we just keep it under the singles category until it is supposed to be released? That way, the people who want it to stay under the singles category can have it stay there. On the other hand, the people who want the article categorized under songs or just plain old get rid of it can once it is proven by time. If we just wait until the time it's said to be released, we won't have to continually argue about different proof and the credibility of that proof. We won't be wasting our time if we do this. Once the time comes, we'll make a decision. If it's a single, we leave it alone. If it isn't a single, we either assign the article to a different category or we delete it. Why don't we try that? Weaselpie (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

It HAS been released in Sweden as a single, so it is one no matter if it isn't released as a single anywhere else. If it is not a single it would be improper to use the single infobox until and unless it becomes one.—Iknow23 (talk) 07:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

was also released here:[1]--61.68.185.98 (talk) 09:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Headline text

Don't know if this is where to put this but: "A quarrel then arose between Gaga and her label where "Alejandro" was ultimately choose to be released." "choose" should read 'chosen'. I would also suggest that "where" be replaced with '...and her label, the outcome of which was that "Alejandro"...' 124.187.144.5 (talk) 11:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Chart Performance

Lady Gaga has reached a new peak in Canada. It has jumped 28 spots to number 50 on the April 10 archive of Billboard Canadian 100. http://www.billboard.com/charts/canadian-hot-100#/charts/canadian-hot-100?begin=41&order=position —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.80.60 (talk) 14:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Number 8 in Australian Aria Charts on 12/4/2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.23.38 (talk) 07:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Chord Sequence, 4 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change: "The song has a basic sequence of Bm–D–F♯m–Bm–D–F♯m as its chord progression." to "The song verse has a basic sequence of Bm–D–F♯m–Bm–D–F♯m as its chord progression." because the current statement implies that the entire song has the given chord sequence, which is not the case. Only the verse has that chord sequence; the chorus has a different sequence. Anyone with knowledge of music theory can testify to this, though the (transposed) chords on this tab [2] show that the chord sequence does, in fact, change in the chorus. 129.63.2.70 (talk) 21:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! If you would like to clarify further, just open another request. Celestra (talk) 22:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

New Music Video Information

Gagadaily, is Lady Gaga's biggest fansite also featured on her official website. The creator confirmed that the Alejandro music video will be shot during the end of April due to business. Gagadaily is a reliable source and Gaga herself also keeps in touch with them, and gives them exclusive news. Please add this new music video information to the Music Video section. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldFantasia (talk • contribs) 09:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

ABBA and Ace of Base.

We need some real sources for the ABBA and Ace of Base allusions. The current sources only lead to a blog writer's speculation. Can we get some sources where Lady Gaga herself confirms this? I did a google search, and I have not found anything more than fan speculation. 75.164.34.162 (talk) 08:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I would agree that this should be removed. I personally can hear only passing similarities. - Tris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.144.5 (talk) 11:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Genres

This song has been confirmed by multiple sources to have many disco and europop influences. I have no idea why it says pop-soul and dance.