Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 19

June 19

Category:Lenzen (Elbe)

Category:Lenzen (Elbe) - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete. One-voiced category for a tiny municipality (2,453 inh. in 2008): By now it sounds completely redundant. --Dэя-Бøяg 22:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• Delete – its single occupant Nausdorfer Canal makes no mention of Lenzen. Occuli (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Royal or Presidential Yachts

Propose renaming Category:Royal or Presidential Yachts to Category:Royal and presidential yachts

Propose renaming Category:Presidential Yachts of the United States to Category:Presidential yachts of the United States

Propose renaming Category:Royal Yachts of the United Kingdom to Category:Royal yachts of the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: Rename. standard naming conventions. emerson7 19:29, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Order of Australia Medal

Propose renaming Category:Recipients of the Order of Australia Medal to Category:Recipients of the Medal of the Order of Australia

Nominator's rationale: Rename. 'Medal of the Order of Australia' is the actual title of the award. Whilst the postnominal entitlement is 'OAM', the name 'Order of Australia Medal' is inaccurate. Due to the the common misuse of the medal's title, the old category name should be redirected to the proposed new name rather than deleted. AusTerrapin (talk) 18:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support per nom. This official site confirms they are correct - the confusion arises from the order of letters in the postnominal. Orderinchaos 22:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support. Agree with Orderinchaos. None of the postnoms reflect the order of the words in the long name: AC is Companion of the Order of Australia, and similar for AK, AD, AO and AM. OAM is a further scrabbling, but necessary because Medal and Member start with the same letter. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support per nom, Orderinchaos and Jack of Oz. There's little more to say, really, other than it's surprising this hasn't been picked up before. Frickeg (talk) 02:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

• No Brainer support the award is Medal of the Order of Australia(OAM). Gnangarra 03:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Superior Generals of the Society of Jesus

Propose renaming Category:Superior Generals of the Society of Jesus to Category:Superiors General of the Society of Jesus

Nominator's rationale: Rename. The proper plural of "Superior General" is "Superiors General", not "Superior Generals". See for example Category:Attorneys general. Gentgeen (talk) 17:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Populated riverside places

Propose renaming Category:Populated river places to Category:Populated riverside places

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the Darling River to Category:Populated places on the Darling River

Propose renaming Category:Cities and towns on the Euphrates River to Category:Populated places on the Euphrates River

Propose renaming Category:Cities on the James River (Virginia) to Category:Populated places on the James River (Virginia)

Propose renaming Category:Colombian cities over the Magdalena River to Category:Populated places on the Magdalena River

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the Murray River to Category:Populated places on the Murray River

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the Murrumbidgee River to Category:Populated places on the Murrumbidgee River

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the River Great Ouse to Category:Populated places on the River Great Ouse

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the River Severn to Category:Populated places on the River Severn

Propose renaming Category:Towns on the River Tweed to Category:Populated places on the River Tweed

Propose renaming Category:Cities on the Santa Ana River to Category:Populated places on the Santa Ana River

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Attempting to bring all of these in line with the consensus on the subcategories of Category:Populated river places, which I would also like to rename to match "-side" in the parent category Category:Populated waterside places. The key element in these categories is that they are on a river, not what types of populated places they are (that is covered in each place's other categories). So, for example, Canberra, a large city, is in Category:Towns on the Murrumbidgee River. There's no reason it shouldn't be in a category about the Murrumbidgee, but it is unnecessarily specific and exclusive to say more than "Populated places" here. The UK ones are also nominated to bring them in line with Category:Populated places on the River Thames. Also, the Magdalena River is entirely in Colombia, so there's no need to specify the country there.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:09, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• oppose usability people dont search for populated places on the foo river, they search for Towns on foo river. I understand the concept behind populated place as a structure to encompass the global variances between definitions on town,cities, villages etc but these subcategories should follow what would the most looked for terminology based on the local language. Gnangarra 03:17, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Side observation Category:Colombian cities over the Magdalena River to Category:Populated places on the Magdalena River should be to Colombian PP as its a country specific group rather than a river specific group. Gnangarra 03:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Nobel laureate organizations

Propose renaming Category:Nobel laureates that are organizations to Category:Nobel laureate organizations

Propose renaming Category:American Nobel laureates that are organizations to Category:American Nobel laureate organizations (or upmerge)

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Since "laureate" is an adjective as well as a noun, this tightens up these slightly awkward category names a little.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support rename of Category:Nobel laureates that are organizations to Category:Nobel laureate organizations. However, I propose the merger of Category:American Nobel laureates that are organizations into Category:Nobel laureate organizations. The category in question contains only one entry and there is no justification for this separate category. 20:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Not a bad point. Almost every organization that's won has been a multinational, so parallel categories for other countries wouldn't make as much sense.--Mike Selinker (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support rename of Category:Nobel laureates that are organizations to Category:Nobel laureate organizations. and merger of Category:American Nobel laureates that are organizations into Category:Nobel laureate organizations per above comments. AusTerrapin (talk) 02:30, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose these are not organizations composed of Nobel laureates ( by analogy, MENSA is an organization composed of high IQ people) these are organizations which received Nobel prizes 70.29.212.131 (talk) 03:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)