Talk:Sonic weapon

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Someone should delete that paragraph about 7 Hz causing building materials to vibrate and therefore provide no protection. That is the dumbest thing I ever read. Or maybe someone should add a citation, to a paper describing bullets traveling through shaking walls so I can better understand. So stupid.

I deleted this external link because it is 404.

• an ABC News (US) report http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/sonic_bullet020716.html

Anthony Appleyard 12:42, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As someone who hears low frequencies I can assure you they pass straight through windows, plaster, paneling, even stone walls. Water is the only material I've noticed that really stops them. Wnt (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

FORCE THREE

I refuse to believe that a Russian terrorist group has a working sonic cannon capable of knocking down a building but nobody has ever even heard of these guys. An outrageous claim with absolutely no cited sources, reliable or otherwise. Sounds like a conspiracy nut to me. Deleted. 130.215.228.96 04:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)Taylor That's the logic flaw with conspiracy theories about secret weapons : if it's so good why haven't they used it? The weapon left in the armoury never won a battle.... 145.253.108.22 09:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The axe

I removed the following section because one of its claims, that the website reporting this "fact" no longer exists, is quite true:

French scientists in 1960 developed an infra sound gun using a roots type supercharger driven by a Detroit 671 engine. This air supply was chopped by mechanical valves at 7 cps and ducted through pipes to an array of 9 horns. They were able to knock the bark off of trees nine miles away. Work on the weapon stopped after malfunctions of some kind and on more than one occasion killed the operating crew. In all the discussions on "non lethal" weapons where ultrasonics are mentioned, only "sound" is considered. The real ultrasonic weapons are not sound weapons as such, the fact is that shock waves are being generated at an ultrasonic rate. Shock waves travel faster than the speed of sound and must in order to remain a shock wave. They are a micro thin layer of compressed air traveling beyond mach and as such, can insinuate themselves into solid objects and come out the other side almost undeminished. They can be coherient and can be combined with other such beams in order to produce a number of effects against the target. Some PCTs are able to move their surface fast enough and with great enough force to produce a shock wave. Provided it's surface is flat, the wave will be coherient. Another method of producing such a train of shock waves would be to combine two or more ultrasonic fields in such a way that a soloton wave is produced. Keeping it coherient is another story.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.115.113 (talk • contribs)

A reported real "sonic bullet"

There was a report of a real "sonic bullet" developed as a weapon against plane hijackers, but that web page has disappeared.

If anyone can find an alternate source (and preferably some more information) on this, please feel free to restore and correct it. siafu 22:41, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Infrasound as irritant

This is still true and I have restored it. Anthony Appleyard 07:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese War Tuba#Sonic or acoustic weapon technology

The author of the section Japanese War Tuba#Sonic or acoustic weapon technology was probably unaware of this article; the material there belongs here. Most of it is already covered but there are some sources/references that might be of value. I have placed the appropriate merge tags. MCB 21:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds right. Melchoir 01:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

As the author of the war tuba article, it makes sense to provide a cross link (for more info, see the following, etc.) The references probably should be included/merged under sonic weaponry. The reference to sonic weaponry in the war tuba article should not be removed entirely, as this is a commentary on the comic idea of a war tuba itself, and acts as an intro to the idea of sonic weaponry. Maybe the entire war tuba article should be included as part of the urban legends or some such thing associated with Sonic weapons. The article is unique enough in name to remain as a stand alone snippett in the encyclopedia. Ema Zee

hmm??

"As used in air,"...shouldn`t that rather say as used in aeronautics, coz if used on land it is too sorta "in air" just to make it clear and less ambiguous. Due to doppler shifts, drag etc, using them on a plane etc, is fiction, choppers though would work.Slicky 08:25, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

report

Ultrasound as a weapon is being used against American citizens in Indiana. Any experts out there wish to make a study, look to Terre Haute, maybe its the communication towers, that is my guess. It is an open secret along with its corrupt mental health system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.163.227 (talk • contribs) 17 October 2006

I suppose we should really be watching out for those chemtrails too, huh? siafu 19:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

External link request

I would like to suggest this essay on sonic weapons as an external link: http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/256/sonic_weapons.html

I am the editor of the site, so I'm requesting the link rather than adding it in myself

Sonic Weapons were at the ready in New york during the 2004 Republican National Convention.

There is incontrovertible proof that sonic weapons were at the ready, pointed at protesters and mounted on Police vehicles during the New York Republican National Convention in 2004. This proves beyond a doubt that these weapons have past their development stage and have become a legitimate form of crowd control by the American Police. There is film footage and photographic evidence to confirm these points. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmollo (talk • contribs) 14:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of split Sonic weaponry in popular culture

The page of pop culture references that was split off has just been nominated for deletion by November 21, 2007, unless some notability is established. Interested parties might want to head over there and add their two cents. -- Binksternet (talk) 17:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The split off material has been deleted. Binksternet (talk) 03:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Merge from Infrasound gun

The Infrasound gun page is underdeveloped and doesn't stand well on its own. I propose it be trimmed and rewritten for clarity, then merged into an appropriate section on this page. Binksternet (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support. Definitely belongs here, as a subset of this more comprehensive article. --MCB (talk) 01:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

MKULTRA

Are there any references to the "Perfect Concussion" program? I heard it was a flop because it was nonselective (damaged entire brain instead of erasing memory) but I wondered if anyone has more information.

Without references, this should probably not be added as it's speculation without backing. JWhiteheadcc (talk) 00:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC)