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Hi, I just finished (phew) going through the characters and fixing any grammar and wording errors, and attempting to get rid of redundancy within character bios. Tell me if I screwed anything up... especially if I messed up the information, so we can discuss it... [[User:Jds500|Jds500]] ([[User talk:Jds500|talk]]) 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC) |
Hi, I just finished (phew) going through the characters and fixing any grammar and wording errors, and attempting to get rid of redundancy within character bios. Tell me if I screwed anything up... especially if I messed up the information, so we can discuss it... [[User:Jds500|Jds500]] ([[User talk:Jds500|talk]]) 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== kizaru. nicknamed {{nihongo|"Yellow Monkey"|黄色人種|Ōshoku Jinshu}}. == |
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nicknamed {{nihongo|"Yellow Monkey"|黄色人種|Ōshoku Jinshu}}. |
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Such nickname doesn't exist in a Japanese version. |
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The cartoon is stolen from Japan. And, the content is falsified by a malignant translator. [[Special:Contributions/60.39.41.134|60.39.41.134]] ([[User talk:60.39.41.134|talk]]) 23:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Reducing article size
I read parts of the archive for: specific split discussions [1] [2] [3], a thread on organizing characters, and another on splitting, and as far as I can tell many characters were kept (and are still being added) due to personal opinion of who is and is not important. I may be ahead of myself in saying this, but I see that a large majority of the current list lacks notability, and even characters entirely unimportant (no real-world refs, nor plot relation) have recently been included. Can we discuss a definite line on what is really necessary here and carry the article with that? Spindori (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- List entries don't need to have notability. What we need to do is to aim at a reasonable article size, while giving due weight to each character: major characters get a whole section; secondary characters are mentioned; minor characters are left out. Back in the days, when I still found time to care for this article, I think we got fairly far. (Take a look at my last revision of the list.) Goodraise 07:14, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Real problems noted. Should we then decide which characters are major, to be mentioned, and then cut the details on the others? I wouldn't imagine that to take long. Spindori (talk) 15:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- In response to Spindori's question, yes. I suggest that we hold a discussion on which minor characters and secondary characters listed here to be deleted, kept or merged. In this discussion, please state if the character should be kept, deleted, or merged into another article/section. Also, please provide a detailed reason for why you believe this should happen. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also note that the recent discussion is now archived here. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- I would also like to mention that rather than deleting many of the one-arc only characters outright, their info, if anything relevant, should be moved to the relevant episode/chapter lists.陣内Jinnai 16:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
If most of the character lists weren't merged pointlessly then this wouldn't even be a issue Gune (talk) 03:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, we'd have 2-3 bloated character lists instead of one to deal with. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I think you mean none at all since it was fine how it was before. Gune (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Just as an idea, what about showing the straw hats, and any characters not part of or not shown only as part of any particular group or syndicate, on this page, and making new pages, then linking to seperate pages for other groups, like cp-9 or baroque works, listing them in this page, but also mentioning briefly various characters that were former members (nico robin for example, in baroque works). For example:
straw hat crew monkey d. luffy: blahblahblah roronoa zolo : blahblahblah nami: blahblahblah etc.
characters not in any organization: sir croc: blahblahblah bon clay: blahblahblah crocus: blahblahblah gol d. roger: blahblahblah etc.
labeled link to page for cp-9 labeled link to baroque works etc.
Jds500 (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- WP:SS infact suggests organizing information that way. However, pages that don't make considerable use of third-party sources tend to have fairly short lifespans on Wikipedia. Way back, we had dozens of articles dealing with nothing but One Piece characters. They're gone now, and without third-party sources, they won't return. Goodraise 03:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
ahhh well.... why not use the sources from this article? they should work right? Jds500 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Target size
Discussing how much space should be used for which character is pretty pointless, unless we first get to a consensus on how big this page should be. Based on WP:SIZERULE, I'd say we should aim for a size of 80 to 90 kilobyte. Would that be acceptable? Goodraise 00:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have no objections to this limit. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:21, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am without much feel for how large kilobytes are, but near half the current 246 kb of text should be gone after dealing with characters. I planned to do necessary trimming after that excess was dealt with so maybe 10 kb more will be rid after that. I will agree with anything less than 110 kb, but I do not project the list to be much smaller than that. Spindori (talk) 14:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Straw poll
Mr. 4
- Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among the Baroque Works agents. His small role doesn't merit anything more. Goodraise 01:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. 5
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove from the list. I wasn't thinking when I made most of these (a mistake). Mr. 5 only appears during the Little Garden arc, and it by itself is too minor to accredit any casted character (the very reason the two giants aren't listed). Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among the Baroque Works agents. His small role doesn't merit anything more. Goodraise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. 7
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove him. He stood at the bomb to light it, and was snuffed out immediately. No reason he was there besides that, story doesn't need him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. This guy's role is so tiny, even mentioning him would be too much. Goodraise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. 9
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has only two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove from the list. Mr. 9 is truly unconsequential to the story, and needs not the mention. He only tags along Vivi at one point, and her character is unaffected by him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He's a minor character with no importance to the overall storyline. He is neither recurring nor the main villain of an arc. Even his role within BW is small, being merely a frontier agent. Goodraise 22:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. 11
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove from the list. He was captured in a few pages/seconds, and that's the last he had. The story never needed him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. This guy's role is so tiny, even mentioning him would be too much. Goodraise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. 13
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. It only has two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove him from the list. The weasel-guy drew pictures and later was quickly defeated before he did anything. He acts more as comic relief than as a noteworthy character. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Aisa
- Remove her from the list. She is only a minor chracaters in the Skypiea arc, too minor for her own section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc". She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Akainu
- Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention in a section summarizing either the three admirals or the Navy as a whole. His only significant appearance is during the rescue of Ace. His high rank and his actions during said appearance make it likely that he will make more appearances in future chapters, but right now -- and that is what matters -- his role is simply too small to consider him major. He has appeared in how many of the currently published chapters (~600)? Six? Maybe twelve? Goodraise 06:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines, and he killed Portgas D. Ace. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内Jinnai 16:13, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think you may be confusing something here. Akainu isn't a subordinate of Buggy, but an admiral in the navy of the World Government. Goodraise 00:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep same reasons as Sjones23. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Alvida
- Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section and has importance initially as a major character. She is later reduced to a secondary character Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among the followers of Buggy. She may have been a major character during the first one or two volumes, but, considering the current size of the series, she is little more than a minor character. Only two points speak against removing every mention of her: She was the main antagonist during her arc (however small that arc may have been) and she keeps making occasional appearances. Goodraise 08:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is part of the Buggy Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内Jinnai 16:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Amazon
- Remove her, a character used less than Aisa definately needs not a mention. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is the gatekeeper of Skypiea. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Aokiji
- Merge with other navy admirals. He lacks significant self-importance, but has key appearances in multiple story arcs. Spindori (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep him in a separate section. If it looks better, I could live with him being stuffed into a paragraph with the other admirals, but only if the prose is not reduced any further. He plays an important role in Robin's past and has made regular appearances ever since his introduction. If any admiral should be kept separate, it is him. Goodraise 13:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines, and he killed Portgas D. Ace. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - agree with all of Goodraise's points.陣内Jinnai 16:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep For same reasons as mentioned already. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He plays a major role in the series. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Scratchman Apoo
- Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He and his "supernova" friends made fans go crazy, but their actual screen time so far has been close to non-existent. Goodraise 13:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - minor character.陣内Jinnai 16:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Aswa
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her from the list. I've seen and read her arc countless times, but the name is new to me. Is it from one of the data books or the anime credits? Seriously, this character is minor even among the minor characters. Goodraise 13:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment - I think it is from the anime credits when I checked on it. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is Koza's mother and Toto's wife. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - mention in relevant chapters/episodes.陣内Jinnai 16:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her. Why would she need to be here? She does nothing, and as far as most readers know and/or care, she is nothing. This list is meant to detail the characters who are necessary to understand the story. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Van Auger
- Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Blackbeard's followers, because that's what he is, and nothing more (...at least for now). Goodraise 13:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - can be mentioned under Blackbeard's subordinates.陣内Jinnai 16:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jean Bart
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove, minor character who becomes the follower of another unimportant character. If and when Law becomes significant enough for his own section, Bart can be mentioned among his followers. Goodraise 14:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Heart Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - minor character.陣内Jinnai 16:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ben Beckman
- Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Shanks' followers. If anyone sees anything significant about him, speak up. I don't. Goodraise 14:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge for now - It's possible he may become more important later.陣内Jinnai 16:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Capone Bege
- Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, he still must be addressed here. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into the Supernovas section - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Bellamy
- Mention perhaps under Doflamingo. I never understood how he fractioned out in the Jaya arc, but I think he was part of Doflamingo's crew. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was the captain of the Bellamy Pirates, and the main antagonist of the "Jaya arc". He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate metnions in Doflamingo's section - an unimportant character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in Doflamingo's section. Granted, he is the main antagonist of a story arc, but it's a very small arc and his role in it isn't that big either. Then there's the fighting. One Piece is a manga with lots of fighting, which is why this article is doing good at spending lots of space on describing characters' fighting abilities. But back to Bellamy. How long did his fight with Luffy last? One punch. Goodraise 13:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Bepo
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him for the same reason as Jean Bart. Goodraise 14:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Heart Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - minor character.陣内Jinnai 16:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Blamenco
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Whitebeard's followers or remove him completely, because Newgate's men are so numerous and Blamenco is certainly among the less prominent. Goodraise 14:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the sixth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - Only the more important of Whitebeard's subordinates should be noted.陣内Jinnai 16:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- DELETE He is NO MORE prominent than any of the commanders 7-16. Prolly even less, since HIS NAME WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED in the manga. 75.80.62.50 (talk) 15:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Blueno
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group is very important, as they're the main antagonist of three consecutive story arcs, but their individual roles aren't that big. Also, the characters are similar in many ways and don't really act independently of the group, so I'd say they should all be covered in a single section. Goodraise 01:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in CP9's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jewelry Bonney
- Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, she still must be addressed here. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, she is one of the Eleven Supernovas. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Braham
Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge with appropriate mentions per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete -- an extremely minor background character who is involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Big Bun
- Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete or Merge under Foxy's section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He is a minor character, only created for a single fight/game. I'd say mention him among Foxy's followers, but that crew is so large that going for completeness in this case would result in bloat. The only characters from that crew that should be mentioned are Porche and Hamburg. Goodraise 13:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Bunchi
- Remove a minor character who appears in just one panel, give or take. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was part of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete - unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. An oversized turtle used for transportation, that all he is. He's got no role, no text, and no importance. Goodraise 13:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with the Baroque Works section, or Remove him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jesus Burgess
- Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Blackbeard's followers for the same reason as Van Auger. Goodraise 14:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - can be mentioned under Bleackbeard's subordinates.陣内Jinnai 16:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Butchie
- Merge, can be mentioned in Kuro's section and has importance as a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him among Kuro's followers or remove him completely. @Sjones23: What importance are you talking about? He's a colorless cannon fodder character. Goodraise 14:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- To answer your question, Goodraise, his importances is an extremely minor background character who is not notable in the series itself and only appears in a few stories in a single arc. Therefore, his character is unimportant to the storyline. Hope this clears everything up and I apologize if I have caused any confusion. I understand your words, Goodraise. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. But does Kuro need to be mentioned either? I think that should probably be discussed in his section first. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Black Cat Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Cabaji
- Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section and has importance as a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Buggy's followers, because that's what he is, and nothing more. Goodraise 23:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the second mate of the Buggy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内Jinnai 16:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Camie
- Mention with Hatchan if he keeps his own section. Camie is a minor character with a minimal role. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Hatchan's section if it is kept. She serves as a minor background character for one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention with Hatchan, if his section is kept. Anything more would be too much for her small part in the story. Goodraise 23:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is an important character. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - significantly trim down and mention her role in the storyarc with Hatchman.陣内Jinnai 16:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove She is too minor to have her own section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Capote
- Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete or mention under Foxy's section - unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Chaka
- Merge, can be mentioned in Alabasta's section and has importance as a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. His role is even smaller than that of Pell. Both are merely secondary characters within their own arc. Their importance to One Piece as a whole is minor. Goodraise 23:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the two head guards of Alabasta. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - mention under Arabasta section with Pell. While he is a secondary character within one story arc, that story arc is a major one and the first major story arc.陣内Jinnai 16:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Chess
- Mention Wapol's henchman fighter under Wapol. Just one fight, no development, only thing kepping him is that Wapol led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of Wapol's subordinates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Wapol's section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Choo
- Mention Arlong's henchman fighter under Arlong. Just one fight, no development, only thing kepping him is that Arlong led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Arlong's section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Nefertari Cobra
- Merge, can be mentioned in Vivi's section and has importance as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention in Vivi's section, if it fits in there without sounding awkward, remove him completely otherwise. His importance is no greater than that of Chaka and Pell, limited to a single arc. Goodraise 23:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the king of Alabasta, and Nefertari Vivi's father. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - mention under Vivi.陣内Jinnai 16:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Coby
- Merge, can be mentioned in Garp's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in Garp's section. He's made a bunch of appearances recently and will probably make more in future chapters, but his role is way too small for a section of his own (even though he and Helmeppo had two whole episodes to themselves). Someday he might merit a section, but not now. Goodraise 23:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He was one of the first characters introduced in the series, and the first person to meet Luffy. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Conis
- Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and she is Pagaya's daughter. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Merge into Skypiea's section. She is a minor character who has appeared in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Crocus
Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)- Delete - unimportant background character who appears in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, he has little importance and only supports other characters. modified own reply 18:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC) Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. If he gets mentioned somewhere, fine, but don't force him in. He has connections to various characters, but plays no significant role himself. Goodraise 23:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a very important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove -- Not important just because of frequency of appearances, not really a developed character. What we're concerned about here is the character's centrality to the work, not their importance in an in-universe context. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He used to be one of the "Roger Pirates", and the caretaker of Laboon, which plays a major role in Brook's past. Crocus is an important character. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Catalina Devon
- Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have her section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention among Blackbeard's followers, not because she's too important to remove completely, but to cover Blackbeard comprehensively. Goodraise 23:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Doberman
- Remove, or mention in a possible Vice Admirals section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Vice Admirals section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Doublefinger
- Mention with Daz Bonez and a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Merge into Baroque Works with appropriate mentions in Daz Bonez's section. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Monkey D. Dragon
- Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- This is a borderline case. I see the day coming, when I'll advocate his personal section, but that time has not yet come. Simply mentioning him would be too little though. He should be covered in a few sentences at least. Goodraise 23:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the leader of the Revolutionaries, the world's most wanted person, and he is the father of Monkey D. Luffy. He is a very important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - While important to the main character in the universe, he's not necessarily important for the average reader to understand the plot. Mentioning him in a larger context would be better. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
X. Drake
- Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 02:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Eneru
- Keep the main enemy of a major arc in a separate section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the main antagonist of the "Skypiea arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70
- Keep. He is the main antagonist of a major arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well, if Eneru isn't a major character, then I don't know who is. Why did you add this section? Goodraise 20:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. Eneru was removed twice before (I believe), so I worried it may happen again. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He may only appears in one arc ("Skypiea arc"), but he is a major antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Father's Day
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove on agreement with Goodraise. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her from the list. For the same reason as her partner, Mr. 7. Goodraise 13:49, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Friday
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. It only has two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove also on agreement with Goodraise. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her completely. She definitely isn't a major character and hence should not have a section of her own. We could mention her among Baroque Works' agents, but "frontier agent" basically means "second row follower". These characters should be removed just as much as the "Whitebeard Allies". Goodraise 20:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Fukuro
- Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in a section about Cipher Pol No. 9. He is one of the less prominent members of the group. He only serves as the source of a few gags and as cannon fodder, and has no real importance to the story. Goodraise 04:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Fullbody
- Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He is somewhat of a recurring character, but all of his appearances are very brief. He could be mentioned in Hina's section (if it is kept), but covering him in a whole section total overkill of such a minor character. Goodraise 07:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Gan Fall
- Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and he is the current "God" of Skypiea. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Skypiea as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Gedatsu
- Mention
in a section on the Priests like beforeunder Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into
a section on the PriestsEneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Goodraise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Genbo
Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Shandians as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete - extremely minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ghin
- Merge, can be mentioned in Kreig's section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the first mate of the Krieg Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in Krieg's section. He is minor, but I wouldn't call him a "background character". His role in the Baratie arc isn't that small. In fact, it's almost as big as that of Krieg himself. Goodraise 08:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Golden Week
Mention with Galdino and a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove per my reasoning for Mr. 5. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete with appropriate mentions in Galdino's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hamburg
- Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Foxy's section or Delete; he serves as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hannyabal
- Merge, he can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. He is a secondary character. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Impel Down personnel. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in a section on Impel Down's personal. He only appears in a single story arc, and even there he plays merely a secondary role. Goodraise 01:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hatchan
- Keep him in a separate section. He appears somewhat strongly in two/three separate arcs and acts more independantly than as a follower to any one character. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is an important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Basil Hawkins
- Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Helmeppo
- Merge, can be mentioned in Garp's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hina
- Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have her section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is one of the stronger marines. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Igaram
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the commander of the Alabasta Royal Guard, and Terracotta's husband. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention under an Alabasta section. Igaram may not have so much screentime, but he is pretty important at the beginning and end of the arc? Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Inazuma
- Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. He initially serves as a major character who is later reduced to a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Revolutionary commanders. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ivankov
- Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. He initially serves as a major character who is later reduced to a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Revolutionary commanders, and queen of the Kamabakka Queendom. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jabra
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into CP9 as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jango
- Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Jozu
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the third division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kaido
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Four Emperors. He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in the Four Emperors' section, since I don't think he is important to the happenings in the story. Characters are mentioned when they are active and necessary, Kaido only has a high (in-universe) status, as of my knowledge. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Kaku
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into CP9 as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kalifa
- Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is a member of the CP9. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kamakiri
Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Shandians section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete - extremely minor background character who is involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Karoo
- Merge, can be mentioned in Vivi's section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is Nefertari Vivi's pet, and was included in four arcs. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with Vivi's section, or Mention in Vivi's section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Eustass Kid
- Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Killer
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kizaru
- Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with other navy admirals. He lacks importance and should be mentioned only as a minor character. Spindori (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep As an character who is important to the story he deserves his own section. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Koza
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is Vivi's childhood friend, was leader of the Alabasta Rebel Army, and son of Toto and Aswa. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kumadori
- Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and has importance as a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kuro
- Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the captain of the Black Cat Pirates, and the main antagonist of the "Kuro arc". He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He played a big role in the series. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kuromarimo
- Mention Wapol's henchman fighter under Wapol. Just one fight, no development, only thing keeping him is that Wapol led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of Wapol's subordinates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Wapol's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Kuroobi
- Mention Arlong's henchman fighter under Arlong. Just one fight, no development, only thing keeping him is that Arlong led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Arlong's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Lafitte
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Laki
Mention her and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is a Shandorian warrior. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Wyper's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Lasso
- Remove from this list. It is a pet/weapon, not worth notice. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was part of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete. He serves as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with either Mr. 4's section or the Baroque Works section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Trafalgar Law
- Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section, or delete. He is an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Rob Lucci
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep* -- He is the strongest member of the CP9, and one of the main antagonist of the "Enies Lobby arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into CP9 section per the above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He played a major role in the series as a main antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Magellan
- Merge, can be mentioned in the Impel Down section. He is a major character for only one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the Chief Warden of Impel Down, and the main antagonist of the "Impel Down arc". He is an important who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He played a major role in the series as a main antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Marco
- Merge into Whitebeard's section with mentions in it and he serves as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the first division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
McKinley
Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove him for the list. I wouldn't think the White Barets have much or any story development. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the commander of the White Berets. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Skypiea section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete - the White Barets do not have enough story development, and therefore McKinley is not notable to be included here. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Merry Christmas
- Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Merge into the Baroque Works section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mohji
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the first mate of the Buggy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Momonga
- Merge, more notable with Onigumo, a section on the Vice Admirals can be created. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Momoo
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is a pet and part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with the Arlong Pirates section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him because he is a pet. He doesn't touch the story more than any other nameless fighter in the arc. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Monday
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove from the list. Miss Monday is truly unconsequential to the story, and needs not the mention. She only tags along Igaram at one point, and his character is unaffected by her. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in the Baroque Works section. extremely unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Nezumi
- Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines, and he gave Luffy his first bounty. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ohm
- Mention
in a section on the Priests like beforeunder Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in
PriestsEneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC) - Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Goodraise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Onigumo
- Merge, more notable with Momonga, a section on the Vice Admirals can be created. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Pagaya
- Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and he is Conis's father. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Pappagu
- Mention with Hatchan if Camie gets a mention. He has the least pull of the three characters but still is seen whenever Camie is. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Hatchan's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is an important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove He is too minor to have his own section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Pearl
- Merge, can be mentioned in Kreig's section. He is a secondary character and is not notable. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the second mate of the Krieg Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Pell
- Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. He can be appropriately mentioned in the Alabasta section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the two head guards of Alabasta. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge - under the Arabasta section with Chaka.陣内Jinnai 16:41, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Pickles
- Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete or Merge into Foxy's section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Abalo Pizarro
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Porche
- Remove her from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is part of the Foxy Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Delete or Merge into Foxy's section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Purinpurin
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Even though he got killed, I think he should keep his section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Doc Q
- Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Richie
- Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep-- He is Mohji's pet, and part of the Buggy Pirates. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with Mohji's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Robson
- Remove a minor character used for transportation without a role. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is Wapol's pet White Walkie. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete; an extremely unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Not much of a character. Rather just a means of transportation. Goodraise 02:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with Wapol's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Rockstar
- Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Lucky Roux
- Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sadie
- Merge, can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. She is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is part of the Impel Down personnel. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Saldeath
- Merge, he can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. He is a secondary character. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Impel Down personnel. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
San Juan Wolf
- Mention him among Blackbeard's followers. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Blackbeard's section per the above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him among Blackbeard's followers for completeness. He himself hasn't done anything of importance to the story yet and the screentime he's had so far was little to none. Goodraise 16:57, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sarquiss
- Mention perhaps under Doflamingo. I never understood how he fractioned out in the Jaya arc, but I think he was part of Doflamingo's crew. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the first mate of the Bellamy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into Doflamingo's section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention next to Bellamy. Certainly not a candidate for a whole section. His role is simply too small. Goodraise 16:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Satori
- Mention
in a section on the Priests like beforeunder Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into the
PriestsEneru section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Goodraise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sengoku
- Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the Fleet Admiral of the marines, and the main antagonist of the "Marineford arc". He is a very important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep his section. Seeing as his role has increased significantly in recent chapters, I can now live with him getting a whole section. Goodraise 16:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sentomaru
- Remove from the list. Sentomaru does not have a large enough role to merit a mention; his summary is also currently of an unacceptable level. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list, since his role is too small for a section of his own and I don't see where he could be mentioned without it looking out of place. Goodraise 05:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the head of the Marines' Science Unit, and bodyguard of Vegapunk. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Shiryu
- Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him in Blackbeard's section, and perhaps in the Impel Down section as well. His role so far has been minimal. No doubt that he'll show up again, but at this time he just hasn't earned a section of his own. Goodraise 05:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Vasco Shot
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him among Blackbeard's followers for the sake of comprehensiveness. Goodraise 16:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Shu
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He wrecked a sword... Did he do anything else? Very minor character. Goodraise 07:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Shura
- Mention
in a section on the Priests like beforeunder Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Merge into
PriestsEneru's section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC) - Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Goodraise 13:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Siam
- Merge, can be mentioned in Kuro's section or Delete altogether. He is an unimportant minor background character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is part of the Black Cat Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him as a follower of Kuro. He is cannon fodder, with no importance to the overall story. Goodraise 07:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Smoker
- Keep, he has leading role in one story arc and reappears in two later arcs. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep him separate or perhaps merge his section with that of Tashigi (see my comment there). He is a prominent recurring character and the leading antagonist of the (admittedly short) arc he was introduced in. Anything less than half a paragraph would be too little for this character. Goodraise 18:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Spandam
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. (As per my comment on Blueno.) Goodraise 03:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the boss of the CP9, and one of the main antagonist of the "Enies Lobby arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section.
- Merge into CP9 section per the above reasonings by Spindori and Goodraise. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep His role is very important in the series as being part of Franky's past, and as a major antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Strawberry
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He's a minor character, only involved in one arc and, as far as I know, his name is only given in one of the data books. Goodraise 18:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Stronger
- Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section and has importance as an extremely minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention along with Doc Q. He's a sickly horse. Period. No need to cover him in a section of his own. Goodraise 16:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge with Doc Q's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Tashigi
- Merge, she can be mentioned in Smoker's section. She has relevance only to him. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm somewhat on the fence with her. Simply mentioning her would be too little, because she's more than just another cannon fodder character without depth tagging along her captain. She should be covered in a few sentences at least and I'm not sure that it's appropriate to discuss a character in such detail in the section of another character. If she can be covered in Smoker's section without cutting too much prose and without slanting his section toward her, then I'm all for it. Or perhaps the resulting section could be made to cover both equally, as was the case with Camie and Pappagu at one time. Goodraise 16:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- I wish to echo Goodraise's comments here. It is likely, like Smoker, her role will only increase in importance as the story advances.陣内Jinnai 16:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is one of the stronger marines. She deserves her own section. Rico70
- Keep She is an important character. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
T-Bone
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He's nothing but a cannon fodder character. Beyond that, he's not even relevant to the one arc he appears in. Goodraise 04:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Terracotta
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She is Igaram's wife. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove her from the list. She's a minor character with no importance even to the story of the arc she appears in. Goodraise 16:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Thatch
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list or perhaps mention him in White- and/or Blackbeard's sections. He's the guy Blackbeard killed and that's it. Very minor character. Goodraise 04:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He was the fourth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He plays a major role as part of Blackbeard's past, and when he was killed, it was the whole reason Ace tried to get revenge against Blackbeard. Ace hunted for Blackbeard for about 200 episodes for that reason. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Blackbeard stayed low and on Whitebeards ship in the hopes of finding the Yami Yami no Mi. Thatch found it. Blackbeard killed him, stole it, and ran off. That's Blackbeard's past. All of it. Thatch is the guy who got killed. And that he got killed (which is something he didn't do, it's something Blackbeard did) is in fact the reason for something Ace has been doing for some amount of time. Though I don't know how you came up with those 200 episodes, because for the grand majority of that time, Ace was—and I can't help but find that important to note—offscreen. Goodraise 00:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Because in the manga, preceeding each chapter, the author usually has a picture involving various characters doing various things, but often the pictures make up a sub story. Ace's search for blackbeard starts in volume 29 in chapter 272, i think... 65.71.126.153 (talk) 00:52, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Toto
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He has no importance to the story outside of the Alabasta arc and even there he is only a second row character. Goodraise 00:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is Koza's father, and Aswa's husband. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Urouge
- Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, it still must be addressed. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in the 11 Supernovas section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Goodraise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Miss Valentine
Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Remove per my reasoning for Mr. 5. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge with appropriate mentions in the Baroque Works section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)- Delete - she is only involved in one story arc and is a secondary character.
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Very Good
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. He stands out among the thousands of nameless grunts the Straw Hats fought at Enies Lobby, but ultimately, he's just cannon fodder. Goodraise 00:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Vista
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him among Whitebeard's followers. He is perhaps the least prominent of his crewmen who should be mentioned. Goodraise 23:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the fifth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Whitebeard Allies
- Mention under Whitebeard with the other allies, or remove them altogether. The aliies are too numerous to go into any detail with them. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention -- Under "The Whitebeard Pirates", or Remove them. Rico70
- Merge can be mentioned in Whitebeard's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Remove that section. With small crews, I don't mind going for completeness and listing every member. WB's following, however, is just way too huge to do that. Being an ally of an important character doesn't make that ally important. So, if the characters listed here don't qualify for inclusion in any other way (and right now I don't see any of them doing that), then I'll have to advocate removal. Goodraise 16:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention, or Remove them. I agree with Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
World Nobles
- Merge into the World Government section. The Celestial Dragons are the only point covered here, and their short role does not merit a separate section. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention in a section about the World Government. As a group they're important within the fictional universe of One Piece, but their part in the story has been minimal so far. Goodraise 03:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- The World Nobles are vital characters in the series. They deserve their own section. Rico70
- Merge, can be mentioned in the World Government section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Actually, I'm not real sure about the World Nobles, but I think they a least should have a section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Wyper
- Keep in a separate section. He is of the most influential in the Skypiea arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the strongest living Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Keep as an important secondary character in the Skypiea arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yama
- Remove him, a character used less than Aisa definately needs not a mention. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is the commander of the Enforcers, and serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
- Delete with appropriate mentions in Eneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mention or remove him from the list completely. He's got one single fight. Aside from that, the story wouldn't change at all if he was missing. Goodraise 16:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yamakaji
- Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove him from the list. As far as I know, his name is only mentioned in one of the data books and his role so far has been minor at best. Goodraise 23:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yasopp
- Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Mention him with Shanks and Usopp. That should be more than enough for a character with as little screen time as him. Goodraise 23:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep He plays a major role as a member of the Red-Haired Pirates, and as Usopp's father. Not to mention, that he heavily influenced Usopp to become a pirate. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
roronoa zolo
it's "zolo" not "zoro" right? that's what I find in the english shonen jump manga, if you don't believe me, check it yourself. also, if there's a japanese spelling of "zolo" (not that there necessarily is), then shouldn't that be in the japanese article (if any) not here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jds500 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps reading this discussion will answer your questions. Goodraise 00:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Here's my opinion. I buy and read the English manga (which is translated by Viz Media), and I buy and watch the English DVDs (which is dubbed by FUNimation). Viz Media translates his name as "Zolo", but FUNimation translates his name as "Zoro". The "List of One Piece characters" article goes by the FUNimation translations. Therefore, his name should remain as "Zoro". I respect Jds500's opinion, but the entire article goes by the English FUNimation translations. Rico70 (talk) 09:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Okeydokey, I think I'm sold. it looks like "zoro" is used more, but it might be helpful to make sure that it's mentioned that "zoro" is the funimation (and/or anything else that also uses "zoro") translation and is used more worldwide, but to also mention "zolo" is used in english manga, but isn't used as much so it's mentioned, but not used in the article. That way, other people (you're not the only ones using "zoro" and I'm not the only one using "zolo") should be happy: you use the (apparently) more correct name, but you acknowledge that "zolo" is used, instead of having everybody fight over names so virtually everybody(you can never please EVERYBODY) should be happy.
Basically, keep using "zoro", just make sure you mention that it's one of two translations, and apparently more correct than the other so you use it here, as well as mentioning the "zolo" translation as being less used, etc. making sure you mention it's the english manga version of his name, and I'll be good. Jds500 (talk) 15:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
SH top three fighters
in the archive that goodraise linked to, there was a argument about the relative strengths of luffy, zoro/zolo, and sanji, did that get resolved? i was wondering because i saw the arguement, but nothing about relative strengths in the list of characters Jds500 (talk) 16:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's not included, because we don't include the opinions of random fans in our articles. (See WP:V, WP:NOR, and WP:NPOV.) Goodraise 23:53, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Editing
Hi, I just finished (phew) going through the characters and fixing any grammar and wording errors, and attempting to get rid of redundancy within character bios. Tell me if I screwed anything up... especially if I messed up the information, so we can discuss it... Jds500 (talk) 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
kizaru. nicknamed "Yellow Monkey" (黄色人種, Ōshoku Jinshu).
nicknamed "Yellow Monkey" (黄色人種, Ōshoku Jinshu).
Such nickname doesn't exist in a Japanese version. The cartoon is stolen from Japan. And, the content is falsified by a malignant translator. 60.39.41.134 (talk) 23:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)