Don't ever move books from a carefully selected Further reading section into the References section. I'd prefer it if you just stop editing that article altogether. This article has some serious content issues and your trivial cosmetic changes are only making matters worse than better. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 14:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't ever move books from a carefully selected Further reading section into the References section. I'd prefer it if you just stop editing that article altogether. This article has some serious content issues and your trivial cosmetic changes are only making matters worse than better. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 14:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:What? You totally wrong!!! Next time, check it out better!!! I'm trying to clean up that article. Yes, I moved two references/books from the Further reading section to the References section, but they BOTH are used as online citations. So, it is more than RIGHT! Please, '''[[Wikipedia:Do not template the regulars|do not template the regulars]]'''. In any case, it is my intention to group all the notes, quotes, and citations. So, it would be easier to see if there are any incorrect information and sources. By the way, I have not found incorrect info, excluding the Fibonacci thing about the fractional notation. But, this is exactly what I'm doing there. –[[User:Pjoef|p<span style="color: #802400">joe</span>f]] <small>(''[[User talk:Pjoef|talk]]'' • [[Special:Contributions/Pjoef|contribs]])</small> 14:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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Wikcionario
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Thanks for the welcome to WikiProject:The Clash! I'm looking forward to working on some of the tasks. I have already just now taken note of a few articles that should be listed with the project, so I'm going to tag them right now. Let me know if I'm making any mistakes! SteveStrummer (talk) 08:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] {{Talkback|SteveStrummer|Welcome!}} –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] {{Talkback|SteveStrummer|Welcome!}} –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey I just wanted to let you know that I am now using the Cite style exclusively! I am working on a lengthy article right now (not, alas, a WPClash article but soon, soon!) and I just cannot believe how much better everything is because of it! It's kind of like moving from a typewriter to a Mac :) Thank you so much for putting your helpful tips on my talk page! They were critical to me for making the changeover. SteveStrummer (talk) 01:40, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
{{Talkback|SteveStrummer|Welcome!}} –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] {{Talkback|SteveStrummer|Welcome!}} –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] {{Talkback|SteveStrummer|Welcome!}} –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
PPI Assessment Update
Thanks for contributing to WP:USPP, your assessments are a part of a deeper look at assessing article quality in Wikipedia. The quality and rationality behind the assessment scores by the Wikpedians on this project is really impressive, it is an insightful and knowledgeable group. There is some information about preliminary results of assessment data on the project assessment talk page, I hope you check it out and add your thoughts. There is also an additional article assessment request for you. This assessment set will wrap up the first experiment which analyzes the consistency of the quantitative metric and compares subject matter expert assessment to Wikipedian assessment.
The second experiment will start in November and you will be asked to assess articles and also provide feedback on the Article Feedback Tool. The results of that experiment will compare your idea of article quality to the ranking from the Article Feedback Tool and your input will help improve that tool. I hope you enjoy being a part of this research, I am pretty excited about the results so far, and am looking forward to continuing to work with you on assessment. ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pjoef, thank you for contributing to article assessment for WP:USPP. Your assessments are very appreciated. There will be weekly updates about the research for this project posted here, look for the first one tomorrow. The next assessment request will come in early November. There is a lot of expertise and discussion about article quality happening in the project, so stay tuned. ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 01:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Suggested changes at MOTD
Hello fellow motto contributor. Discussions arer still open on Wikipedia talk:Motto of the day/Nominations#Suggested changes and still require further input especially on ideas 10-17. Please could you voice your opinion as this is going to be closed in early November. Please help out or even make any new idea suggestions. Simply south (talk) 14:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I must say that when I read "... and (pay attention to the logical [and grammatical] conjunction)..." I fell off my chair laughing! Hailypaige (talk) 05:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Many, many thanks for the exemplary work done on our page. Well done and best regards, Jullian. 86.26.236.123 (talk) 21:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure! I didn't know about ThermaHelm before. I hope it will help save many lives. Thank you for this innovative technology, and all the best for its future.
A couple of "annoying" things: The article needs more information and to be expanded, otherwise, I fear that it will be deleted. If I understood correctly, ThermaHelm is both the name of the helmet (hey, what about designing a lighter version for heavy-duty works [construction, mining, ...]?) and the name of the Ltd. company. I think that it needs a proper and good introduction (see: Wikipedia:Lead section) to summarize its most important aspects, then a section about the company and the company history, and a section with possibly one or more 3rd level subsections (code: ===3rd level subsection title===) about the helmet(s) and how it works (see: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (layout)). Lastly, I want to remind you, but I'm sure you already know that Wikipedia is not a vehicle for propaganda, advertising, and showcasing (see: Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion). So, we can only publish balanced third-party verifiable materials written in an objective and unbiased style, and with a neutral point of view, of course (see: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest).
If you need help... just drop me a line, I'm here and ready to help (when it is possible). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All good points. Do note that we are simply making the public aware of the technology and that we sell nothing through our website or anywhere else. Once we have the technology ready for consumer rider protection, we hope to. Would very much like for you to add to the article. Can email you more information...would that help? Hailypaige (talk) 19:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand completely your points about commercial promotion and agree completely that such activity is Totally inappropriate, wrong and want no part of promoting same on this uber-cool altruistic site. As a matter of fact, the owner of identySOL added a link to his site without using a registered account and I instructed him to remove it and he has done so.
ThermaHelm is the name of the technology (think Intel Inside) and also the company. However, ThermaHelm as a company will soon cease and Cool Technologies Limited (established) will be the issuer of licences to use the brain cooling patent for individual application as shown here on the World Intellectual Property Organization http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009095690. Perhaps this link or information should be added? Any help or guidance would be most greatfully appreciated. As we are deep into development and having a soft launch at the NEC International Motorcycle Show from November 27 - December 5th, I am unable to pay the correct attention to learn all about Wikipedia, however, am honoured that you have chosen to create the page for it. Indeed, lives will be saved - rest assured.
Perhaps I should send you our Executive Summary. We intend to change the status quo of head protection for children by con vesting kids to full face head protective head gear and the sales of the adult helmets will subsidise the child helmets which will be offered for 75% less than the adult's models.
Good idea about construction hats. We have also been approached by a firefighter (and motorcycle) helmet company in Germany called Schuberth. F1, equestrian, bicycle and many other applications are all possible. Very exciting for us all. Feel free to come down to the University for a chat. I have some friends to are in the music business from Norman Cook to those who actively write lyrics for common names in the industry and this may be of help to your research.
My contact details are on the website so feel free to give me a call whenever a free moment presents itself (07779000900). Best, J. Hailypaige (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Those are great news! Children are our future!!! Very well done and thank you once again. I had the "enable email from other users" option disabled, but I've now activated it, so feel free to send me anything you think would be of interest for that page and Wikipedia. The "email from other users" option is available from the "Toolbox" on the left column, when a registered user is viewing any User page or User talk page (or "just click this link to send me an email" [max 4.5 MB per email]. If possible, send me the citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged. Books, academic and scientific journals and publications, newspapers, and magazines are the best sources, their web sites are good, while blogs and other web sites are unacceptable. I've started a new section on my sandbox, so feel free to use it instead of the email. I thought of using a reference to identitySOL for the GPS tracking units, but they published the news in their home page only, and I preferred not to use it at the moment. Last but not least, I have not visited www.wipo.int yet, but plan to do so very soon (maybe today, or at the latest tomorrow). Best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP:FILM October 2010 Newsletter
The Octoberr 2010 issue of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Next WP:USPP assessment
Hi Pjoef! Since Amy Roth's out on maternity leave, I'm pushing out the next round of assessments she needs. This time, we're comparing your assessment to readers' assessments. And instead of us assigning you articles, we're letting you pick! The full list of topics is on a subpage of the Assessment tab on our WikiProject. Please choose 10 of the articles to assess. Use the link in the section title to go to the appropriate version of the article.
Also, as a thank you for all your help, I'd like to send you a small package of Wikipedia swag. Please email me your address.
Hello Pjoef, nice to meet you, just a quick note: i didn't fill in the previous/next albums in Makeba's entries because I am not that much sure we have a full discography. Back when I wrote Makeba's entry for it.wiki i mainly referred to this for discography, but every now and then I bumped into other albums that source didn't mention. There is also quite a mess about compilations, reprints with different titles, you name it. This is quite common for artists who were popular in the 1960s or earlier, and for African artists, and for artists who have relocated far and wide in their lives, and with Makeba you've got the full house. That said, I might be fine with the decision to fill in "previous/next" based on what we've got in the article, so, it was just for the sake of clarity. Thank you, see you! Moongateclimber (talk) 16:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are right, and I think the same of you. I started with the intention to expand the lead section of that article. So, I have started editing from the bottom... External links, References, See also, Discography ... with the intention to arrive to the lead section ~ hahaha. For her discography I'm using the following websites as sources: 1. allmusic MM discography; 2. discogs MM; 3. rateyourmusic MM (I find it more accurate than the previous two, especially for release dates and record labels); 4. akh's makeba (a great website about MM... I've to thank Spacini for it!) While the first two websites are considered reliable sources, but very often they have (as in the case of MM) incorrect data, the other two ~ hum ~ I'm not sure if they are considered "good sources". The "last/next" thingY in the chronology of the {{Infobox album}} templates now follows all her albums which are already on Wikipedia, and seems to be working fine. Thank you so much for your (much appreciated) message. All the best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, While tidying up self-contradictions, I noticed that you recently restored Kosmische Musik from a redirect. There's some discussion going on about re-merging the information, and I was surprised no one thought to point it out to you! --Worm 14:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Third WP:USPP Assessment
Hi Pjoef! Thanks so much for your help on the Public Policy Initiative assessments. I really appreciate all your help -- we'll be in great shape when Amy gets back, thanks to all of your efforts! The next round of assessments is ready for you to review. Like the previous round, please pick 10 of the articles to review from the list, and it's especially critical that you use the version I've linked to for these.
This round measures the baseline quality of articles before our students started working on them. Many of these articles have undergone drastic revision already, so it may not be useful to leave comments about them on the talk pages. We'll be asking you to review the same set of articles once students have finished them too, so please be sure you're using the links provided so you're getting the versions immediately prior to when the students made their first edits. Ideally, these assessments should be completed by December 1.
I anticipate this taking a lot less time than previous rounds, as many of these articles are quite short. If you have extra time and want to help, please go back to round two and do a few more assessments -- especially on any articles that have only one or two assessments completed. I need a minimum of three assessments for each article, and some of the articles farther down the list still need attention.
Once again, thanks so much for your help and let me know if I can clarify anything at all! --Ldavis (Public Policy) (talk) 18:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~ I am ready for the next round...! :) Thanks for the advice. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Article Feedback Tool Help?
Hey Pjoef. I noticed you signed up for the Article Feedback Workgroup. I was wondering if you'd like to help us with Phase 2 of the feature. A goal for this phase is to better understand how these ratings reflect article quality. To do this, we're going to be applying the article feedback tool to page which we are fairly certain will undergo substantial revision in the near future (e.g., upcoming elections, movies, etc.). We can then evaluate the ratings before and after the substantial revisions and see if the revisions actually impact ratings.
Would you have time to help manage the articles that we're putting the feedback tool on? We're created a list of Additional Pages, but there are some other ideas that are floating around as well. It would be great if we could get some help coordinating these additional pages and then communicating with the English Wikipedia community. For more background, please check out this post and the Phase 2 design doc.
Let me know if you have time and we can chat more. Thanks! Howief (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~ Yes, sure... and contact me whenever you need or would like to. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Pjoef. I just posted some suggested tasks for the workgroup on the workgroup page. Please take a look and let me know if you'll still be able to help. Thanks! Howief (talk) 05:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Pjoef. Just wanted to let you know that I left a comment on the Article Feedback Workgroup page. User: Sadads wants to be involved and it would be great to include him. Please take a look when you have a moment. Thanks! Howief (talk) 00:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~ That's great to know, any help is more than welcome, thanks for the post! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Invitation to particpate in the December 2010 Wikification Drive
Hi there! I thought you might be interested in the December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (22,000+ articles), and we need your help! Participants in the drive will receive barnstars for their contributions! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Thanks!
The November 2010 issue of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive has begun!
Get going.
The December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive has begun. Please get started, as the drive aims to wikify over 2,000 articles this month. We're going to need all the firepower we can get, so please remind your friends to join up as well. In case you didn't know, wikification is fairly simple: just add wiki markup, links, and similar formatting. Thanks for joining; we're looking forward to an exciting time this month!
For your amazing, gracious help with the WP:USPP assessment -- you've helped make our project a success! Ldavis (Public Policy) (talk) 23:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Expand tag is redundant when the pages is a stub
Hi. I would like just to inform you that {{Expand}} is redundant when the page is a stub per instructions. Happy editing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very well!!! That's okay, because many people who read Wikipedia did not see the stub templates (they are too little and too small, and, you know, they are placed at the very bottom of a page.) So, I think that being "redundant" here is a very good thingY (especially because readers will notice the banner on top of a page, and, probably, will help by expanding it.) I do not like a lot of templates, but, IMHO, {{Expand}} and {{Expand section}} are the most useful of all templates. Anyway, thank you so very much for the advice, and happy editing! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 18:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are currently listed as a member of WikiProject Wikify. As agreed upon by the project, all members will be required to confirm their membership by February 1, 2010. If you are still interested in assisting with the project, please add yourself to the list at this page—this will renew your membership of WikiProject Wikify.
Thanks pjoef, for all your work assessing articles with WP:USPP over the past few months. I will have some results to report to the assessment team in January. The next semester should be pretty exciting there are over 25 university classes signed up with the project. Your input is helping to gauge how successful the project is, not just at improving the quality of public policy articles, but at incorporating Wikipedia as a teaching tool and recruiting and retaining college students as editors. we still need you in 2011, but it will mostly be assessments of student articles. Currently, there is another round of assessments to look at the improvements students made to their articles. If possible please assess by 5 January 2011; these results will be presented at an international conference later in January! Have a wonderful holiday season, all the best, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive Needs Your Help!
Please help!
The December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive is almost complete. Please help, as the backlog has begun to climb back up. Already exceeding 20,000 articles! The backlog was down to 19,275, let's try to put it back down there by the end of the drive! We're going to need all the firepower we can get, so please remind your friends to help as well.Thanks for all your help thus far!
The December 2010 issue of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:07, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive
The Special Barnstar
This Special Barnstar is given to Pjoef for wikifying 261 articles, a total of 124,542 words. Thanks for participating, and please be sure to help out at our next drive! Nolelover It's football season! 01:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia
This Really Frickin Awesome Superior Barnstar is given to Pjoef for leading all three categories of the leaderboard. Again, thanks for participating! Nolelover It's football season! 01:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Just a quick note to see if you would be interested in writing an editorial for Wikipoject Wikify, more information can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/News/Preparation. Since you were the top Wikifier an editorial, of any length, would be a wonderful addition to our fist newsletter! Regards, Sumsum2010·T·C 01:54, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks from PPI
hi Pjoef, Thank you for all your work on assessment with WP:USPP. You assessed more articles than anyone else. I will write and report the results soon, but we have strong numbers that show that Wikipedians rate articles 4 points tougher on average than experts and Wikipedian scores are more consistent, these results are statistically significant. There will probably be mostly pre and post assessment of student work in the spring semester. You were on my mind because I entered your username so many times while working with the data. Awesome job! 69.181.205.124 (talk) 01:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know that each article needs at least 3 assessments and that the deadline was on the 5th of January (2011), so I decided to do "overtime" (^___^) a day before the deadline to achieve the maximum possible number of reviews. I am very sorry if I have "bored" you, and squattered and illegally occupied your mind with my "username" (^___^). I hope I have been (an I'll be) of some help, all the best and keep me informed about the project. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
February 2011 Wikification Drive
Hi there! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify's February 2011 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive. We'll be trying to reduce the backlog to 18,000 articles and clear the 2008 backlog, and we need your help! Top participants in the drive will receive barnstars for their contributions! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Thanks! Note: The drive starts February 1, but you can sign up today!
First, thanks Pjoef, I am in awe of the work the assessment team did for this project. The results from the quantitative metric assessments were amazing, really. Check out what your work shows about Wikipedia article quality - I think it’s exciting, but you’ve probably figured out by now that I’m a bit of a nerd. A summary is posted on the Assessment page and a report will be on the Outreach wiki.
Second, I wanted to ask if you haven’t done many assessments on the Student post articles,I know you've probably done a bunch I really appreciate your work. So if you feel like it, articles toward the bottom have only 1 or none assessments. I know some of the material is pretty dry, but this assessment is the most important one for the fall semester and this assessment will be the primary method of showing article quality to the project grant funder. I am going to try to recruit a couple more assessors for the spring so you don't have to do everything ;) HUGE Thanks - ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 07:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've done two more assessments. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Wikify's Coordinator Election
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The February 2011 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive has begun!
Get going!
The February 2011 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive has begun. Please get started, as the drive aims to wikify over 2,000 articles this month. We're going to need all the firepower we can get, so please remind your friends to join up as well. In case you didn't know, wikification is fairly simple: just add wiki markup, links, and similar formatting. Thanks for joining; we're looking forward to an exciting time this month!
Hello,
I added The Innocents as all girl band because, like the Slits they were seen as allgirl band, but both bands had a male at times. Should I undo this? Should the Slits be there? Am I answering my own question?
Is there a category that they could be in that represents predominantly female-centric bands.
Thanks again for all, EstherLaver (talk) 20:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't know. When I think of all-female bands the first bands/groups that come to mind are The Shirelles, The Ronettes, The Shangri-Las, Martha and the Vandellas, and The Supremes. But, they all were all-female singing group from the 1960s. In the 1970s there were The Shaggs, Sister Sledge, Heart, The Runaways, The Go-Go's, and The Slits. I think that if The Slits are listed (and categorized) as an all-female band, then The Innocents should be listed there too. The only difference between The Slits and The Innocents is that The Slits started (in 1976–1977) as an all-female band and then Budgie replaced Palmolive in 1979, while The Innocents had Greg van Cook within their ranks since the beginning. And, what about Delta 5? They started as an all-female trio, but are not listed nor categorized as an all-female band. My opinion is leave them where they are and then see what happens. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Wikify drive
Thanks for participating! Just don't forget to remove the {{dead link}} templates as well. Thanks!
Don't ever move books from a carefully selected Further reading section into the References section. I'd prefer it if you just stop editing that article altogether. This article has some serious content issues and your trivial cosmetic changes are only making matters worse than better. —Ruud 14:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What? You totally wrong!!! Next time, check it out better!!! I'm trying to clean up that article. Yes, I moved two references/books from the Further reading section to the References section, but they BOTH are used as online citations. So, it is more than RIGHT! Please, do not template the regulars. In any case, it is my intention to group all the notes, quotes, and citations. So, it would be easier to see if there are any incorrect information and sources. By the way, I have not found incorrect info, excluding the Fibonacci thing about the fractional notation. But, this is exactly what I'm doing there. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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~ I am ready for the next round...! :) Thanks for the advice. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
