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Comments in August 2007

This is all we have on Saif al-Islam??? I'm adding an External link - a really good one. Simesa 05:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Khaddafi is the luckiest man on the world with all those women guardians. :-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.248.185.43 (talk) 12:43, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Who's his mother?

It is very strange that his mother is not mentioned. Who is she? Is she unknown? Jahibadkaret (talk) 00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have copied the answer given in the Arabic Wikipedia. Luwilt (talk) 00:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move needs to be justified

The article was today moved by Alwad7 from Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi on the basis that Saif is "widely known as" Saif al-Islam Muammar. Please provide a citation to justifying this move.---PJHaseldine (talk) 12:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As given on his personal website and the official Libyan News Agency, citation, plus the article shows that he's the son of Muammar al-Gaddafi.
In Allah We Trust.--Alwad7 (User talk:Alwad7) 15:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But this citation gives his name as "Saif Al-Islam Muammar Gaddafi", which means that the "Gaddafi" part of his name has been omitted. Saif's name is being corrected accordingly.---PJHaseldine (talk) 17:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't Understand what i meant, By Providing the Citation I wanted to show that Muammar is a part of his name, thus only calling him Saif Muammar- as it is the case localy- would be correct, the reason syllable Gaddafi was added, is because it's the name of the foundation [GDF]. SaiF Al-Islam Muammar is a Correct Name, Full Name is shown for further detial.

and Please Justify your omitting of the "Dr." from his name, and Changing it to Gaddafi instead of Al-Gaddafi. In Allah We Trust 02:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi → Saif al-Islam Gaddafi — This article has been moved many many times over the last few years, without a proper discussion, so a discussion is now opened. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 01:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google news results

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65.95.14.96 (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Support. Few news sources seem to be including the "Muammar" part. Ucucha 01:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Comment See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Arabic) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Arabic). The latter should perhaps be revived. ^walk victor falk^talk 06:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daily Telegraph libel suit

Most of the text of this section is a testimonial about the 1986 bombing of Libya and has nothing to do with the subject of that section.--84.108.213.97 (talk) 11:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, as it is, the following sentence after that quote seems like a non-sequitor. That section needs to be re-written.68.94.91.172 (talk) 21:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 8890bottle, 22 February 2011

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In the education section, following "and a PhD from London School of Economics in 2008, awarded for a thesis entitled "The Role of civil society in the democratisation of global governance institutions: from 'soft power' to collective decision-making?"" please add "Evidence has since come to light that the PhD was plagiarized and may be withdrawn."

See here: http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/02/is-this-irony-or-absurdity-saif-al-islam-al-qadhafis-disseration.html

And here: http://saifalislamgaddafithesis.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

8890bottle (talk) 19:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 Most of the text of this section is a testimonial about the 1986 bombing of Libya and has nothing to do with the subject of that section.--[[Special:Contributions/84.108.213.97|84.108.213.97]] ([[User talk:84.108.213.97|talk]]) 11:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
+:Agreed, as it is, the following sentence after that quote seems like a non-sequitor.  That section needs to be re-written.[[Special:Contributions/68.94.91.172|68.94.91.172]] ([[User talk:68.94.91.172|talk]]) 21:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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