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::::The majority of his 'supernatural abilities' can be written off as only being present for the benefit of the story or for 'dramatic effect'. However, they are also listed. I see only his stealth abilities as being something the character seems to 'truly possesses', though the others are listed too (his 'strength' and 'durability'). I feel something should be said for what I was describing as well, considering there's been plenty of instances of it shown throughout the series, even considering those scenes. For a quick instance, look back at the Casey occurrence; going within the boundaries of the story itself, it seems a bit too coincidental that he just happened to end up at that exact window at that exact time (when she poked out a little too far that time) with his back turned just to turn right on the spot to look her dead in the eye when she stood up. Notice he wasn't searching at that precise moment but just standing there. [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 23:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC) |
::::The majority of his 'supernatural abilities' can be written off as only being present for the benefit of the story or for 'dramatic effect'. However, they are also listed. I see only his stealth abilities as being something the character seems to 'truly possesses', though the others are listed too (his 'strength' and 'durability'). I feel something should be said for what I was describing as well, considering there's been plenty of instances of it shown throughout the series, even considering those scenes. For a quick instance, look back at the Casey occurrence; going within the boundaries of the story itself, it seems a bit too coincidental that he just happened to end up at that exact window at that exact time (when she poked out a little too far that time) with his back turned just to turn right on the spot to look her dead in the eye when she stood up. Notice he wasn't searching at that precise moment but just standing there. [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 23:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::The other abilities are used often and with consistency. He is always able to appear and disappear when he needs to, hes always able to overpower people and hes always able to take a vase to the face or beer bottle to the crotch. What you are arguing is that he began searching for Casey in the house, then decided he knew where she was and posed while waiting for her to rise up exactly in front of that window. Plus again theres the incidence that he only came close to Gale because the other doors in the area were locked, as Gale discovered and after going in there he still didn't know where she was. He isn't any more aware than any other character, he just has the advantage of being on the attack rather than the defense, being armed and having some sort of plan in place like walking out of the emergency doors in the cinema as soon as he's done stabbing Maureen. It's not one of his particular abilities, its just dramatic coincidence.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC) |
::::::The other abilities are used often and with consistency. He is always able to appear and disappear when he needs to, hes always able to overpower people and hes always able to take a vase to the face or beer bottle to the crotch. What you are arguing is that he began searching for Casey in the house, then decided he knew where she was and posed while waiting for her to rise up exactly in front of that window. Plus again theres the incidence that he only came close to Gale because the other doors in the area were locked, as Gale discovered and after going in there he still didn't know where she was. He isn't any more aware than any other character, he just has the advantage of being on the attack rather than the defense, being armed and having some sort of plan in place like walking out of the emergency doors in the cinema as soon as he's done stabbing Maureen. It's not one of his particular abilities, its just dramatic coincidence.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake#top|talk]]) 23:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::I'm going to say fair enough, since I do realize that it is true that the other abilities listed did tend to be showcased more often and bluntly. No matter; I just feel there was enough to show this as well [[Special:Contributions/173.77.23.212|173.77.23.212]] ([[User talk:173.77.23.212|talk]]) 08:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Hey Darkwarrior, did you pass Saw 3D for GAN? GamerPro64 (talk) 00:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- Look at this and tell me what you see. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:43, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- The correct answer is that the article is still at GAN. You didn't close the review. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- You just look at this to show what templates to use and after passing, place it at WP:GA. GamerPro64 (talk) 01:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- The correct answer is that the article is still at GAN. You didn't close the review. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I just noticed it passed. I knew it was good article, but I was prepared to fix any problems that it may have had. I had been working on since before Saw 3D started filming (GroundZero helped). :) About the picture issue you brought up. You think it's really too crowded? :( I don't want to remove the Cary picture.. maybe James and Leigh? —Mike Allen 03:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- It's not a major issue, just seemed excessive, but of them all I wouldn't lose Cary, he's probably the most notable franchise character after Jigsaw and Amanda. You could always get rid of the Gina Holden one, place Russell there instead. Even putting (Joyce) there I barely remember who she was but then it was just a bad, unmemorable film. I think its worth of being GA either way, it was just a personal comment so if you think its fine as is, leave it. It doesn't harm your ability to read what is going on in that section.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
The table at Scream (film series)
I know what you're trying to do, but it doesn't work. I'm seeing at 80% the same thing that you're seeing at 100%. A gap between the first line and the table. This will happen depending on screen size / resolution because of the infobox on the right. It looks pretty weird when the main table only goes 3/4 of the way across the page though! Try making your browser window smaller to emulate this. The problem (and to be honest, it's not a major one - purely aesthetic) is that if the two tables bump into each other, it puts the main table below the infobox. Maybe there's a way to stop this happening, but I don't know the markup. --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- 80% of my screen isn't available (small monitor at work you see), so it automatically sends the table below the infobox. I tried to have a look for some markup that will make the table take up all available white space, but haven't found anything yet. --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Best I could do would be email you a screen dump... --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Okay - I saw the response sent at the helpdesk, and that seems to solve the problem... --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:08, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Best I could do would be email you a screen dump... --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- 80% of my screen isn't available (small monitor at work you see), so it automatically sends the table below the infobox. I tried to have a look for some markup that will make the table take up all available white space, but haven't found anything yet. --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Peer reviews
You are very welcome for both reviews. I thought I had responded here to your earlier post - sorry. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Scream box office
Yes, all of them (including Scream) have been adjusted. So, Scream made 293 million in literal dollars, but when adjusted it is more than that because the value of the dollar increased. As for domestic over global it depends on what you mean. Are you meaning, global franchises (e.g., including films like Ju-On?) or global as in the foreign money that films like Scream, Friday the 13th, etc. brought in? If it is the former, then I wouldn't even know where to begin. The initial source that I used only compared a handful of horror franchises, and they were American franchises. Not to mention the fact that these American franchises are probably more well known around the world than any foreign franchise. You can virtually go anywhere and show them Freddy or Jason and they'd know who they were. If you mean the international grosses for these films, then no there is not enough information. Most of the older franchises don't have a lot of reported foreign box grosses, even though we know they were released internationally. Take Friday the 13th for example. I cannot find a reliable source for foreign box office for at least half of the films. Now, even if I could I still could not use those figures when comparing franchises in adjusted dollars because I'd probably never be able to find conversions for the foreign dollars in each of the different countries that the film's appear in. That was why I kept the list to comparing other "American" horror franchises to each other because I cannot find any information for non-American films and then it would be next to impossible to try and adjust for inflation with every different type of currency being used for the foreign releases. I mean, Europe uses the Euro now, but 20 year ago they were all using different currency. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:01, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- Someone has converted them to dollars, but what they have not done is inflated the original currency to 2010 rates and then converted them to dollars. For instance, let's say that we had the foreign totals for every film in each franchise. What we do not have are the adjusted rates for each country. If I simply took the converted figure and adjusted that, it would not be accurate because each countries currency does not adjust on the same level and rate. Thus, the U.S. dollar could be worth 5 times as much today as it was in 1980, but the Yen might only be with 3 times as much in the same time period. Thus, I would be inflating a figure greater than it was actually worth. That is why I don't include them in the adjusted rates. Obviously, as you noticed, I cannot compare them each on an unadjusted rate including the foreign figures because we don't have even estimated foreign figures for a lot of the older horror films because we didn't have the internet then and it wasn't as easy to put in one location like Box Office Mojo or something. It's great information, it's just hard to actually compare it when it's not accurate. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
File naming/re-naming
The basic thought is for making file names that are as decriptive as possible. But when we look here:Wikipedia:File mover for reasons to make name changes: don't rename, it sounds like they should be left as is because the name problem isn't a big one. You can file a request for the name changes here if you want. Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming HTH! We hope (talk) 21:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- In this case, I think whatever is on the box has to stay there. The same would be true for adding anything to the image of the box-you wouldn't be able to do that because once either of those things are done, the image you're using stops being an actual copy of the cover and would have an invalid license since that's based on the actual cover.
- Have seen a lot of album and DVD covers wind up being deleted because it turned out that what was supposedly the music cover turned out not to be an actual one. Some fans of various artists and groups have made what's known as "fantasy covers", where the fan re-designs the music cover. Much of this (films, music, games) truly does have more than one legitimate cover created by the company for marketing purposes and if there's an alternate cover that has the wording removed, you certainly would be able to re-upload a new/different version of the file. We hope (talk) 21:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Ghostface Awareness
I was wondering why it didn't fit. I mean, he turned right around to face her, appearing to have known where she was. With Gale, we did not see him chase her to that area, but she found he was there searching it already. Also, when she almost walks into view of him, he immediately checks the room she was in. And though he had no reason to believe she was in it, he continues to follow the path she was taking to attempt escape. Then there was the bathroom stall incident, which should speak for itself. There are other occurrences too, such as Ghostface knowing Sidney was about to attract attention to herself despite not being able to see her actions. Then there's his tendency to call people at some pretty pinpoint times, such as Casey right before she was to call the police (after he rang the doorbell), or CiCi when she was standing right in front of the closet he was hiding in (before his physical attack). There were just too many 'coincidences' of it IMO. I don't find being klutzy at times to be that major a detractor. Besides, I only recall him truly falling of his own accord once; the first chase on Sidney in Scream 2 (bumping and falling over the lamp and couch). He's usually only downed by something his target does in self-defense, hardly obvious things. We can't get something about his awareness in there? 173.77.23.212 (talk) 18:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- What you're talking about isn't awareness it's omniscience. He "turns" or "looks" when its dramatic for the script, with Gale he was just searching, he doesn't know shes there or he'd have found her, its all just for drama. He was searching Casey's house because he couldn't find her and turned to see her, he wasn't posing waiting for her to look through the window. Basically, he has some abnormal physical attributes but he isn't REALLY super strong or REALLY able to take a bullet but one thing he does not have is the ability to know where people are or that they're about to use the phone any more than you or I know where someone is or that they're about to use the phone because they just called out "I'm about to use the phone". The toilet thing was awkwardly done and silly but it still doesn't mean he can see through walls or sense when someone has their ear pressed against a wall. So no, he doesn't have super awareness, he's just one step ahead of the person he is attacking because he is prepared and they're scared and not thinking straight.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- The majority of his 'supernatural abilities' can be written off as only being present for the benefit of the story or for 'dramatic effect'. However, they are also listed. I see only his stealth abilities as being something the character seems to 'truly possesses', though the others are listed too (his 'strength' and 'durability'). I feel something should be said for what I was describing as well, considering there's been plenty of instances of it shown throughout the series, even considering those scenes. For a quick instance, look back at the Casey occurrence; going within the boundaries of the story itself, it seems a bit too coincidental that he just happened to end up at that exact window at that exact time (when she poked out a little too far that time) with his back turned just to turn right on the spot to look her dead in the eye when she stood up. Notice he wasn't searching at that precise moment but just standing there. 173.77.23.212 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- The other abilities are used often and with consistency. He is always able to appear and disappear when he needs to, hes always able to overpower people and hes always able to take a vase to the face or beer bottle to the crotch. What you are arguing is that he began searching for Casey in the house, then decided he knew where she was and posed while waiting for her to rise up exactly in front of that window. Plus again theres the incidence that he only came close to Gale because the other doors in the area were locked, as Gale discovered and after going in there he still didn't know where she was. He isn't any more aware than any other character, he just has the advantage of being on the attack rather than the defense, being armed and having some sort of plan in place like walking out of the emergency doors in the cinema as soon as he's done stabbing Maureen. It's not one of his particular abilities, its just dramatic coincidence.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm going to say fair enough, since I do realize that it is true that the other abilities listed did tend to be showcased more often and bluntly. No matter; I just feel there was enough to show this as well 173.77.23.212 (talk) 08:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- The other abilities are used often and with consistency. He is always able to appear and disappear when he needs to, hes always able to overpower people and hes always able to take a vase to the face or beer bottle to the crotch. What you are arguing is that he began searching for Casey in the house, then decided he knew where she was and posed while waiting for her to rise up exactly in front of that window. Plus again theres the incidence that he only came close to Gale because the other doors in the area were locked, as Gale discovered and after going in there he still didn't know where she was. He isn't any more aware than any other character, he just has the advantage of being on the attack rather than the defense, being armed and having some sort of plan in place like walking out of the emergency doors in the cinema as soon as he's done stabbing Maureen. It's not one of his particular abilities, its just dramatic coincidence.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- The majority of his 'supernatural abilities' can be written off as only being present for the benefit of the story or for 'dramatic effect'. However, they are also listed. I see only his stealth abilities as being something the character seems to 'truly possesses', though the others are listed too (his 'strength' and 'durability'). I feel something should be said for what I was describing as well, considering there's been plenty of instances of it shown throughout the series, even considering those scenes. For a quick instance, look back at the Casey occurrence; going within the boundaries of the story itself, it seems a bit too coincidental that he just happened to end up at that exact window at that exact time (when she poked out a little too far that time) with his back turned just to turn right on the spot to look her dead in the eye when she stood up. Notice he wasn't searching at that precise moment but just standing there. 173.77.23.212 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- What you're talking about isn't awareness it's omniscience. He "turns" or "looks" when its dramatic for the script, with Gale he was just searching, he doesn't know shes there or he'd have found her, its all just for drama. He was searching Casey's house because he couldn't find her and turned to see her, he wasn't posing waiting for her to look through the window. Basically, he has some abnormal physical attributes but he isn't REALLY super strong or REALLY able to take a bullet but one thing he does not have is the ability to know where people are or that they're about to use the phone any more than you or I know where someone is or that they're about to use the phone because they just called out "I'm about to use the phone". The toilet thing was awkwardly done and silly but it still doesn't mean he can see through walls or sense when someone has their ear pressed against a wall. So no, he doesn't have super awareness, he's just one step ahead of the person he is attacking because he is prepared and they're scared and not thinking straight.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)