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This article was nominated for deletion on 6 February 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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For the love of God would someone break up that huge paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.171.253.146 (talk) 01:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

which one? and you can always do it yourself.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

I know that many people dont like "criticism of" articles, but rap/hip hop culture and music has received an extraordinary amount of criticism for its misogyny, celebration of violence and criminality, etc. I would suggest this article be renamed "Criticism of hip hop culture and music", but only if and when someone (not me right now) can take the time to improve it. this article should be high enough quality that it could be linked to from every article on a rap artist who has received such criticisms.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

well founded criticism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.191.5.129 (talk) 06:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I enjoyed reading the article and can see the potential for a good piece. There may be room for a "Criticism of..." article, but this article's current thrust doesn't really embrace a wide-ranging criticism of hip-hop; it focuses on misogyny. As a Feminism-related article, that should be sufficient for it to stand on its own without needing to be broadened into a general critique, IMO. The suggestion to "rename" the article wouldn't be appropriate without broadening its scope too, and I don't think that is really necessary within this context. Misogyny in such a popular art form is a worthy topic of a separate article, so I propose we keep it and keep working on it. A critique of... section could be added to the Hip Hop culture main article .JoGusto (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lol @ this article having quotes, ruminations and explanations from everybody EXCEPT hip hop artists. I especially enjoy how it subtly suggests that its da white maans fault. It reads like a first year liberal arts students opinion piece. "Criticism of hip hop culture and music" would be a more accurate (if still somewhat disingenuous) description of its content. Thunderlippps (talk) 05:09, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not so sure its simply an "opinion piece". There are references to published works. Some of the scholars and writers quoted do indeed tie the roots of this misogyny to "its da white maans [sic] fault". The article could be improved by adding verifiable reference material citing any controversy over such claims if omitting them gives it a non-neutral POV. I found it interesting to tie chattel slavery and resulting racism into the misogyny analysis. Why this would make one "LOL" is not clear... JoGusto (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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+I enjoyed reading the article and can see the potential for a good piece. There may be room for a "Criticism of..." article, but this article's current thrust doesn't really embrace a wide-ranging criticism of hip-hop; it focuses on misogyny. As a Feminism-related article, that should be sufficient for it to stand on its own without needing to be broadened into a general critique, IMO. The suggestion to "rename" the article wouldn't be appropriate without broadening its scope too, and I don't think that is really necessary within this context. Misogyny in such a popular art form is a worthy topic of a separate article, so I propose we keep it and keep working on it. A critique of... section could be added to the Hip Hop culture main article .[[User:JoGusto|JoGusto]] ([[User talk:JoGusto|talk]]) 09:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 Lol @ this article having quotes, ruminations and explanations from everybody EXCEPT hip hop artists. I especially enjoy how it subtly suggests that its da white maans fault. It reads like a first year liberal arts students opinion piece.
 "Criticism of hip hop culture and music" would be a more accurate (if still somewhat disingenuous) description of its content. [[User:Thunderlippps|Thunderlippps]] ([[User talk:Thunderlippps|talk]]) 05:09, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
+:Not so sure its simply an "opinion piece". There are references to published works. Some of the scholars and writers quoted do indeed tie the roots of this misogyny to "its da white maans [sic] fault". The article could be improved by adding verifiable reference material citing any controversy over such claims if omitting them gives it a non-neutral POV. I found it interesting to tie chattel slavery and resulting racism into the misogyny analysis. Why this would make one "LOL" is not clear... [[User:JoGusto|JoGusto]] ([[User talk:JoGusto|talk]]) 09:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)