Talk:Sons of Guns

Additional Information

If anyone can help fill in this page with additional information it would be appreciated. Details on the show are fairly scarce even though it's scheduled to premier this month and is being advertised on the Discovery Channel quite often. Xephael (talk) 22:12, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Added Cast Member

I added an upcoming cast member. User:Seven_7s (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC).

Changes Made

Changed from shotgun to AK47 and silencer to supressor on the first episode synopsis. These were huge mistakes. Mike M. —Preceding undated comment added 02:38, 10 February 2011 (UTC).

As the items were originally manufactured and patented, they are called "silencers". Am I correct in calling it a silencer? It's debatable. But, this argument will go on for another 100 years, just as it has the past 100 years. I'm only saying that either one is "correct". Silencer is the true name, and suppressor is an accurate description. Skiendog (talk) 01:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of huge mistakes, the summary for the Flamethrower episode mentions modifying an AK 47 to accept a 30 round magazine. GUESS WHAT? THE STANDARD AK 47 MAGAZINE IS A 30 ROUND MAGAZINE. NO MODIFICATION NEEDED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.237 (talk) 01:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

You're actually grossly wrong. To quote the show Will says "America does not allow the importation of assault weapons. So what they do is built this specifically to not accept 30 round magazines. We have to change enough of the parts to change it's status". Playing Call of Duty does not equal knowledge :) MrCrackers (talk) 05:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

And as a dealer in Class III firearms Will would no doubt know that the assault weapons ban expired in September 2004. So this was one of several shows built around a lie. The article is sorely in need of a section about things on the show that are simply untrue or don't make a lick of sense. What is Call of Duty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.47 (talk) 21:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Every AK I have ever owned has taken standard 30rd magazines. I will have to go back to that episode, watch it again, and try to figure out what he was talking about. Skiendog (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Putting an end to this. This page isn't meant to discuss whether or not AK-47's can accept 30 round magazines or not. The article itself is meant to reflect the show, and it was clearly said the man wanted his AK-47 to accept 30 round magazines. Right or wrong, that is what happened in the plot. Discussion over. MrCrackers (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC).

Aren't you being kind of a dictator here? As well as other words starting with "d"? Here's the deal, Mrcrackers. The page needs a section on lies told by Will and things that just makes no sense at all. How does the rifle know how long the magazine is? Answer: it doesn't. Here's a lie Will told, according to you: "To quote the show Will says 'America does not allow the importation of assault weapons.'" Then where do all the cops and Red Jacket get their MP-5s?

Tonight's episode was about making a silencer for a grenade launcher. In what universe does that make sense? Grenades are nothing if not loud, and grenade launchers are nothing if not short range. This page is sorely in need of a section labeled "nonsense".

"Discussion over" said Mrcrackers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.40 (talk) 03:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

It's not about being a "dictator". It's about keeping the article from being derailed and this page being flooded by every person who plays CoD and thinks they're an "expert" on firearms. None of your points are relevant to the article itself. Your suggestion for a lies page I'll never support. Furthermore you ask "where does Red Jacket get their MP-5s". Well...Will has mentioned MULTIPLE times that RJ has a Class III dealer's license. They can import whatever full auto guns they want...50 cal machine guns...whatever. It's doesn't take a genius to understand that when will said "doesn't allow importation..." he was referring to average folks who aren't dealers.MrCrackers (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Updating

Current:

I thought this article would be OK without me for a few weeks but it seems like it's fallen into the old habit of copy-pasting episode summaries from Discovery.com. I'll work on replacing those and cutting down some of the copyright free ones that are too long.

I'm back....watching s02e01 now and will get on the summary. MrCrackers (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Archived:

Season finale (if I remember right) tonight. I'll deal (or someone else can) with getting the template ready for the next season and having a small blurb that "new season will start...." MrCrackers (talk) 09:28, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Up to date again. Not sure of any new episodes out this week since Discovery hasn't updated their guide. Also thinking might want to update the "Starring" panel to coincide with the Staff section, but Flemm and Mikey don't seem to have much in the way of talking roles yet. MrCrackers (talk) 00:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the work... what pages are redirecting here that shouldn't? Xephael (talk) 21:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

According to "What Links Here", Brian Deck apparently had an album called Sons of Guns. Clearly not related to this article :) MrCrackers (talk) 00:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Fixed it. Gotta love Twinkle. MrCrackers (talk) 23:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Everything is up to date. Waiting for new episode to air 3/16 but I might not be able to watch until a few days later (currently on vacation) MrCrackers (talk) 23:18, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

This weekend I'll try to watch all the episodes from the series so far, compare against the episode guide (http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/sons-of-guns/episodes.html), and write clean synopses. I'll also add a proper episode table similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_Pawn#Episodes MrCrackers (talk) 12:23, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Most has been accomplished. Few problems are as follows. First, I can't locate a digital copy of S01E01 to watch (EDIT: Amazon Video on Demand beat out piracy for once). Second, I haven't watched episode 5 yet, but I'll write a non-copyright summary when I do. Third, we need a longer introduction section than what we have. Because we don't have much text outside of the table, on low resolution screens the info-box on the right will create a TON of whitespace. I don't know how to fix this (is there a wiki-table width = "float" option?).17:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Episode 5 summary is done and updated. With the above issues, someone also needs to do all the word article stuff. I don't want to :). Oh and some pages are also redirecting here that shouldn't. No idea how to fix that either. MrCrackers (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Episode 1 summary done. All episode summaries are copyright free and not paraphrased from the official summaries. Persistent issues above. MrCrackers (talk) 00:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

(3/9/11) With any luck I'll remember to set my computer to record an episode 13 re-broadcast this morning and I'll write the summary up soon after. And I'll keep my eye out on Discovery.com for episode 14's description to add to table, assuming 13 wasn't the last of the season. MrCrackers (talk) 06:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I see there's been quite a few updates since I last worked on this page that need incorporating. I'm pretty hammered down with work but I'll try to spend an hour today getting everything up to date (copyright free summaries) and new episodes added (2 aired + 2 unaired). MrCrackers (talk) 05:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. As mentioned in my edit summary, I think the page is starting to look too much like a wall-o-text so we might need to play around with alternating colors or indenting to fix this. Persistent issues remaining include a lacking introduction section. MrCrackers (talk) 06:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Adding a "Cast" section.

I've been thinking that a beneficial addition to this article would be a Cast section, similar in look to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_Stars#Cast . I don't think it would have to be anything on the level of the official bios on the Discovery website, but something more simple like "Will Hayden - Owner, Founder". Any comments before I implement this this weekend (or someone does it before that)? MrCrackers (talk) 04:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Got my approval. Skiendog (talk) 23:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Season 2

Any news? Nothing on IMDB or Youtube channel about a second season as of yet. Skiendog (talk) 23:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Formatting this talk page

I added sections. Please use the "new section" button at the top for adding a new section. This page was one giant paragraph with little to no formatting of sections. Maybe i'm just OCD like that. Skiendog (talk) 01:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Using copyrighted summaries...

Please refrain from copy-pasting the episode summaries from Discovery.com and not citing them. a) They're copyrighted. b) It makes it hard for myself and others to tell whether or not the episode needs a copyright free summary. 24.234.219.211 (talk) 02:37, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

"Scripted"

Sorry folks, but the link/source to the "scripted" part never mentions it being scripted. Stop feeding the trolls and actually come up with a source that says it's scripted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.36.109.121 (talk) 06:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

My guess is that no one noticed that get added. This is one of the things that happen with an Online Encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Thank you for fixing it btw --Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2011 (UTC)