Talk:Marlinspike Hall

(Two suggestions)

Perhaps this article should mention more clearly the fact that Marlinspike Mansion has been owned by Haddock's family for a long time. Also, it should be mentioned that the house was used to imprison Tintin in the Secret of the Unicorn. Atinoda 00:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

• Please go ahead and add this information. Regards, David Kernow 09:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Article name

So far as I recall, the mansion is called Marlinspike Hall in the English translations...?  Unfortunately I don't have any to hand, but if this is correct, any objection to the article being renamed Marlinspike Hall?  Regards, David Kernow 09:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

• No, if it is called Marlinkspike Hall in the english translation and you have proof, then I would agre Sotakeit 10:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• I've unearthed my (English) copy of The Making of Tintin, a combined The Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure plus "section showing original references used by Hergé" by Benoît Peeters (ISBN 041629300X) in which "le château de Moulinsart" is translated as "Marlinspike Hall" both in the adventure and the supporting text. Okay to rename article to Marlinspike Hall?  Thanks for feedback, David Kernow 12:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Marlinspike Disambiguation

Does anyone think it is important to disambiguate the tool named marlinspike from marlinspike hall? I see that this article was originally called Marlinspike, and so the article about the tool was called marlinspike (ropework). But now that this article has been renamed marlinspike Hall, I would like to move Marlinspike (ropework) to Marlinspike and get rid of Marlinspike (comics). Marlinspike (ropework) does contain a link to Marlinspike Hall. Any thoughts? --AComrade 19:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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possible location?

Is there any clue as to the possible location of the Hall. Obviously in country England, but where? I am trying to document the locations used in all Tintin books. Nomadtales 02:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually in rural Belgium - don't be mislead by the efforts of Herge's translators to make the text less exotic to English readers.192.188.71.2 03:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Any clues to which part of rural Belgium? Nomadtales 03:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really - Tintin reaches Marlinspike (from Brussels?) first by train (Seven Crystal Balls) and then by motor bike (Tintin and the Picaros). However that could locate it almost anywhere in a small country. The daily walks favoured by Captain Haddock are clearly in a rural environment and the local police wear the uniforms of the now disbanded Belgian Gendarmerie - who operated outside urban areas. The side roads do not appear to be paved. Part of the charm of the Tintin stories is a certain vagueness about detail. However see the interesting contribution on the history of Marlinspike just added by another editor.Buistr 21:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

In "Tintin and the Destination Moon" on Page 3, Captain Haddock receives a telegram. It mentions address as Marlinspike, followed by Marlinshire. While this can be attributed to translation, interestingly a crown has been used on top, which suggest British location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.49.108.137 (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh but Belgium is also a monarchy and may well have had crowns heading its telegram forms during the 1940s and 50s. When near Marlinspike, Tintin and co drive (usually fast) on the right-hand side of the road past policemen who look nothing like bobbies, while en route for continental-looking houses. And why would the patriotic Herge make his hero a foreigner? Those early English translators have a lot to answer for :) .Buistr (talk) 08:23, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

There's no crown in the original French version. The header is "Régie des Télégraphes et des Téléphones", which was the Belgian telegraph agency.Zompist (talk) 08:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Location in Belgium

I had always assumed Hergé's château de Moulinsart was located near Brussels, but The Secret of the Unicorn says it was granted to the chevalier de Hadoque (Sir Francis Haddock) by Louis XIV in 1695. But in 1695 Belgium was part of the Spanish Netherlands, with which France was at war as part of the War of the Grand Alliance. Brussels itself was bombarded by the forces of the duc de Villeroi that same year. As King Louis seems to have granted Hadoque an estate that was merely in French occupied territory (as opposed to part of France), the chevalier would have lost possession of it again after the French relinquished all their conquered lands in the Low Countries by the Treaty of Ryswick, 1697. Hadoque was lost with the Unicorn in 1698, but must somehow have recovered Moulinsart, perhaps by purchase as a private citizen, and cached the treasure in its cellars before his eventual death. Opera hat 18:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)