Talk:Islam in Spain

Islam in modern Spain?

I'm not in a position to write on this with authority, but can the article not be expanded to include the resurgence of Muslim communities in Spain in the years following joining the European Union?

--Nerroth 22:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge with (the much longer) Al Andalus?

surely?Johnbod 18:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You must mean Al Andalus ("Islamic Spain" is a redirect). It seems evident to me: all what this article is about is alredy there (and, if not, it should). --Sugaar 18:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, sorry- noticed afterwards - that's what I meant; have changed the heading here accordinglyJohnbod 00:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I also support a merger, having the same topic twice is useless. Please merge. --Arabist 10:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not necessarily the same topic - there are over a million Muslims in modern Spain, and there are similar articles about the presence of Islam in European countries. I had asked before if someone more familiar with modern Spanish Islam could be called upon to contribute, and if someone so qualified could do so, this article would have a more solid reason for remaining unmerged. --Nerroth 00:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree it's not the same topic. Al-Andalus was a specific period in the history of Islam in Spain. After the fall of Al-Andalus there was still Islam in Spain and the current history, of course. Misheu 09:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

some points

Excuse my english.

"Islam has had a fundamental presence in the culture and history of Spain. The religion was dominant from 711 AD until 1492 "

This is inacurate, only about 1/5 of the peninsula was in moorish hands by early XIII century and most of the moors under christian dominion either converted or fleed.

Also it says "As of 2007, Muslims Rule! and an estimated 3% of Spaniards are Muslim." but there is no reference link. Spanish gobernment, EU and even media like The Economist give numbers of about 0.5 millions (1.1 - 1.2 %) wich concordes with the number of morocan and other muslim countries inmigrants.

So how many percent of the population of Spain is muslim TODAY`?

Why doesn't the article give any answer to that question? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.241.40 (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Islamic religious doctrine from the onset was the first of all major monotheistic religions to clearly state that other monotheistic faiths had to be tolerated.

I think some documentation for this claim should be presented, as otherwise it is not neutral and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.12.36 (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Needs some serious tidying

This article is rife with ambiguity and inaccuracy.

"The first Mosque in modern Spain was built after approximately 700 years." - 700 years after what?

"The religion was present in modern Spanish soil from 711 until 1492 under the rule of the Arabs and Moors of al-Andalus." - A religion isn't an actual thing or technology that's taken from place to place. It didn't suddenly leave Spain in 1492. I'm pretty sure it should be "on modern Spanish soil" rather than "in" it, as well.

Can someone who knows their Spanish history rewrite this article properly?

Bumblesnug (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Provided ref to the first mosque in modern Spain - is now unambigous. Peaceworld111 (talk) 23:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

This article is SOOOOO wrong!

Islam in Spain has had a fundamental presence in the culture and history of the nation. The religion was present in modern Spanish soil from 711 until 1492 under the rule of the Arabs and Moors of al-Andalus. For key historical dates, see Timeline of the Muslim presence in the Iberian peninsula. As of 2007, an estimated over 1 million Muslims live in Spain,[1] most of them recent immigrants from North Africa, Middle East, and South Asia; although there are also some Spanish converts, estimated at around 20,000.[2] The first Mosque after the Moors were expelled in 1492, in modern Spain, was built after approximately 500 years in 1982.[3]

In 1492 Granada was conquered by Castille. BUT muslims were not expelled.

Between 1501 and 1515 (depending on the kingdom) muslims were forced to convert or leave. And in 1609-1614 fake converts were expelled. Morisco

So, till 1609 there were Muslims in Aragon and till 1614 in Castille. BUT even after that, there were Muslims in Ceuta, Melilla, Western Sahara, Rio de Oro and Spanish Morocco.

--95.120.79.142 (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)