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:They qualify more as meatpuppets. If it weren't for the photo of the GNAA logo on their userpages, you wouldn't have even knew they were GNAA. Your request for me to provide evidence is moot, since the community would value my evidence as lesser because of old blood spilled. I hope you will be able to continue what I started by bringing MLP:FiM to featured status. '''[[User:Fluttershy|<font color="#E45BBF">Flutter</font>]][[User talk:Fluttershy|<font color="A8A800">shy</font>]]''' ''[[Tripcode|!xmcuvg2MH]]'' 22:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC) |
:They qualify more as meatpuppets. If it weren't for the photo of the GNAA logo on their userpages, you wouldn't have even knew they were GNAA. Your request for me to provide evidence is moot, since the community would value my evidence as lesser because of old blood spilled. I hope you will be able to continue what I started by bringing MLP:FiM to featured status. '''[[User:Fluttershy|<font color="#E45BBF">Flutter</font>]][[User talk:Fluttershy|<font color="A8A800">shy</font>]]''' ''[[Tripcode|!xmcuvg2MH]]'' 22:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::Well, I realize that. But if it was some kind of evidence that could be objectively evaluated, then that would be useful. I do also have the suspicion that it will be very difficult to bring the FiM article to FA status. The hurdle just seems to be quality of sources. Major news ignore the show itself, and only focus on the fans. I cannot think of a solution. --[[User:Harizotoh9|Harizotoh9]] ([[User talk:Harizotoh9|talk]]) 23:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC) |
::Well, I realize that. But if it was some kind of evidence that could be objectively evaluated, then that would be useful. I do also have the suspicion that it will be very difficult to bring the FiM article to FA status. The hurdle just seems to be quality of sources. Major news ignore the show itself, and only focus on the fans. I cannot think of a solution. --[[User:Harizotoh9|Harizotoh9]] ([[User talk:Harizotoh9|talk]]) 23:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Then try to focus on the actual fan base. I'm aware about the concerns regarding splitting the two subjects into independent articles, but it would be much easier to maintain an article on bronies, as well as getting it to good article or featured article status. '''[[User:Fluttershy|<font color="#E45BBF">Flutter</font>]][[User talk:Fluttershy|<font color="A8A800">shy</font>]]''' ''[[Tripcode|!xmcuvg2MH]]'' 23:30, 10 February 2012 (UTC) |
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A request for appeal
Hello.
I'm aware that it's usually preferred in the community for someone to appeal a block or ban after a period of time since the last action made by the user, but you never know since anyone can revoke talk page access at anytime, so I'm taking advantage of that opportunity. I just want to make it clear to everyone that I am Pickbothmanlol. Specifically, I am a person who has constantly disrupted numerous wikis for several years, including the English version of Wikipedia. Since 2010, I have evaded a community-placed ban by using this account, thinking that I could get away from my past without consequence. It took me a long time to realize that, but I know now that nobody can get away and stay away with consequence. I got myself into this whole mess because of my immaturity and intent to disrupt the purpose of this project, but I want to make it clear that it is no longer my intent.
This account was never intended to be a fresh start, but as a dump account to solely create one article. I don't even remember why I bothered doing it, because I knew the account was going to be blocked and the article deleted. That article happened to be deleted, but the account remained unblocked for well over since October of 2010. Ironically, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic was just introduced in the same year, but I never really got into the show until the end of the first season. I then started to edit My Little Pony articles for well over the remainder of my time being unblocked. After getting Friendship is Magic to good article status, I felt like I didn't only just contributed to something, but that I saw the benefit in helping to improve a piece of work, rather than ruin it. This inspired me to create the MLP WikiProject for My Little Pony related content. Of course, I never entirely abandoned trolling sites on Wikia, most notably being the True Capitalist Wiki. But something was missing after about two or more attacks on the True Capitalist Wiki. The joy I originally had by trolling wikis just wasn't there anymore.
Now, this might seem like a really weird thing to use as justification, but I want to credit the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic for reforming myself. I want to credit an administrator by the name of User:Masem for helping me return the favor for this show by getting it to GA status, and I wouldn't mind having Masem as a mentor if I am ever unbanned. I'm ready to give back to the community of Wikipedia as a reformed editor, and not a troll. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 20:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- I won't express any opinions here one way or the other but I think a few questions might be asked here. First could you tell us: are there any other accounts? e.g. Are you connected with the account User:FluttershyTheAtheist, which was registered shortly after this account was blocked? —Soap— 20:10, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- No other accounts exists, and I have no knowledge of that account that you listed. Feel free to run a CheckUser. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 20:12, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
IRC question
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I request that someone forward my appeal for an unban to the administrator noticeboard. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 20:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Done~ Matthewrbowker Talk to me 20:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- The discussion is located at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Fluttershy_appeal. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Response to Michaeldsuarez
I already exposed myself in the IRC before, privately to a IRC regular whom has suffered enough trouble regarding his sanctions. I don't want to reveal his identity, because he does not need more drama on his shoulders, but if the community wants me to reveal it, I only request that you let him slide. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 21:11, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Pickbothmanlol&diff=473656630&oldid=473640059 – Does this have anything to do with the chat log that "Σ" is referring to in the diff provided? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- I would be able to tell you if I had a copy of the chat log. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- I remember informing him of the SPI case, though. That might be what he is referring to, but Sigma was not the person who knew about my identity. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:56, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%CE%94&diff=475093792&oldid=475070440 – The chat logs "Σ" was referring to appear to be the same chat logs Betacommand gave to "Σ". Also, why did you inform "Σ" about the SPI case? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:25, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I remember informing him of the SPI case, though. That might be what he is referring to, but Sigma was not the person who knew about my identity. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:56, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- I would be able to tell you if I had a copy of the chat log. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Response to MuZemike
I understand your mistrust, but those events were three years ago. I could have simply made an account right now and get right back to my editing, but I didn't, because I have changed. I do not know of any way to convince you, or prove it to you for that matter, so you simply have to choose to accept or not accept what I am saying as truth or not. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Response to SweetieBelleMLP
I'm not going to accuse you of attacking people here. I just find it ironic that you are inviting GNAA members to the MLP WikiProject, and you are currently in an ANI topic with another member of the WikiProject claiming that he is "stalking you". Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- What? When did I do that? I didn't even know what the GNAA was till I started editing here. User:SweetieBelleMLP 03:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
If I really still had the intention to disrupt.
Why on Earth would I waste my hard earned money that I was saving to buy a game, to donate to Wikipedia? http://imageshack.us/f/193/donationj.png/ Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 23:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- You know, yesterday I was almost about to fail one of my courses. Wikipedia helped make a difference. That's all I have to say. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 23:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- You donated 3 dollars... Mythpage88 (talk) 03:08, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Response to Beyond My Ken
Give me three months time. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 23:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I was protecting Betacommand.
Not Zalgoo. I will come back in three months. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 00:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Could you clarify this? You're claiming that Betacommand knew before drama exploded onwiki that you were Pickbothmanlol, but did not share that with the community? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I was aware that he was having a difficult time. A lot of nonsense going on that was involving him. I was correct in determining he was a trustworthy person, and we shared a couple of stories with one another. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 01:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I promised him I would solve his issues if an ArbCom candidate that I trusted gained a seat. Obviously, he didn't obtain the seat in the committee, and we both ended contact with one another through the IRC. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 04:08, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2011/Coordination&diff=460215478&oldid=460210097 – Did your relationship with this ArbCom candidate interfere with your role as an election coordinator? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 16:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I promised him I would solve his issues if an ArbCom candidate that I trusted gained a seat. Obviously, he didn't obtain the seat in the committee, and we both ended contact with one another through the IRC. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 04:08, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I was aware that he was having a difficult time. A lot of nonsense going on that was involving him. I was correct in determining he was a trustworthy person, and we shared a couple of stories with one another. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 01:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry case
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Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pickbothmanlol for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I have no connections to those accounts.
They are not mine, but they are sockpuppets of the GNAA. Blocking those accounts and removing them from the MLP project would do the WikiProject a great justice. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 03:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
- I call your bluff. Back a couple of months ago, you threatened to go to checkuser on me if I didn't provide you administrative access on Rainbowdash.net via email. The user you wanted me to promote was related to the GNAA's "Capitalist Radio" troll podcast. I already alerted ARBcom about my account per policy, in which you thought I wasn't aware of, and attempted to use that as leverage. As far as I am concerned, you and the GNAA should be banned from Wikipedia. I also sent an email to EqD's Sethisto, and he is very aware of you guys now. Cabal-of-rdn (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Fluttershy: Can you prove that they are sockpuppets of the GNAA? Putting forth some evidence would result in them being banned. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- They qualify more as meatpuppets. If it weren't for the photo of the GNAA logo on their userpages, you wouldn't have even knew they were GNAA. Your request for me to provide evidence is moot, since the community would value my evidence as lesser because of old blood spilled. I hope you will be able to continue what I started by bringing MLP:FiM to featured status. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 22:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I realize that. But if it was some kind of evidence that could be objectively evaluated, then that would be useful. I do also have the suspicion that it will be very difficult to bring the FiM article to FA status. The hurdle just seems to be quality of sources. Major news ignore the show itself, and only focus on the fans. I cannot think of a solution. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Then try to focus on the actual fan base. I'm aware about the concerns regarding splitting the two subjects into independent articles, but it would be much easier to maintain an article on bronies, as well as getting it to good article or featured article status. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 23:30, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I realize that. But if it was some kind of evidence that could be objectively evaluated, then that would be useful. I do also have the suspicion that it will be very difficult to bring the FiM article to FA status. The hurdle just seems to be quality of sources. Major news ignore the show itself, and only focus on the fans. I cannot think of a solution. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)