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[[User:Notreallydavid|Notreallydavid]] ([[User talk:Notreallydavid|talk]]) 03:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Notreallydavid|Notreallydavid]] ([[User talk:Notreallydavid|talk]]) 03:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
==Impending Paralympics Boycott Because of Atos -Assessment Related Suicides?==
Sponsorship of the 2012 London Paralympics by Atos has led to a growing protest movement largely because of the number of suicides, which impartial Inquest juries in the UK have attributed to harassing and distressing techniques they use when 'assessing' people on disability benefits. should there not be a separate 'controversies' section for this firm? The entry appears biased without one. For example, <P>

Two cases of benefit cut related suicides involving ex-British services personnel are poor Mr. David Sanderson of Southfield (<http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/9215292.Dad_committed_suicide_after_housing_benefit_cut/>), and Army Veteran Mark and Helen Mullins of Bedworth(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8878543/Poverty-suicide-couple-had-warned-of-hopeless-situation.html) . Another pensioner is mentioned in a later section.
Then, there are the disabled suicides,such as Paul Willcoxson, 33, of Corby, Northants, who according to his suicide note, was worried about benefit cuts when he hung himself in April. And Elaine Christian, 57, of Hull, who according to reports of an inquest in July, was worried about a meeting to assess her disability benefits. She was found drowned in a drain with ten self-inflicted cuts to her wrist and had taken painkillers <http://www.cloggie.org/proggold/2011/12/06/welfare-reform-kills/> . The Taxpayer's burden was further relieved in March 2010, when Vicky Harrison, a 21-year-old, took her life with a massive overdose of drugs in Darwen, Lancashire. < http://wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/suic-m18.shtml>. +
Arguably, if such people do commit suicides, they are no longer a burden on the UK taxpayer, and Atos assessments will indeed, be of enormous benefit to the public purse - but was the risk of suicide not forseen by Atos ? Another 10 benefit-cuts related suicides are:- <P>
1. <http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/9095159.Jobseeker_took_own_life/>
2. <http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/no…s-leanne-chambers-72703-27003699/>
3. <http://news.scotsman.com/arts/Aut…suicide-39due-to-slash.6438473.jp>
4. & 5.
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment…n/07/mother-suicide-welfare-state>
6. <http://www.thisishullandeastridin…/story-12927176-detail/story.html>
7. <http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investi…/2011/02/sick-who-gives-atos.html>
8. <http://www.guardian.co.uk/politic…rnment-reform-disability-benefits>
9. <http://www.consumeractiongroup.co…elp-me-take-Atos-and-DWP-to-court>
10. <http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-…ad-family-claims-115875-23147158/>
11. Addition to Deaths 4 & 5 Above. Mother was pregnant so her unborn baby died as well.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/PRE…TO+DEATH+HOLDING+SON.-a0213434697
Plus an example of fatal Atos misdiagnosis at <http://www.guardian.co.uk/society…l/24/atos-case-study-larry-newman>.
To avoid allegations that this entry is little more than an advertisement for a private company, perhaps you should include coverage of claims of Corporate Manslaughter against Atos for failing to adequately assess the mental health impact of the way they treat disabled former tax payers when assessing them as 'fit to work'.[[Special:Contributions/212.139.103.26|212.139.103.26]] ([[User talk:212.139.103.26|talk]]) 14:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)twl[[Special:Contributions/212.139.103.26|212.139.103.26]] ([[User talk:212.139.103.26|talk]]) 14:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

==Atos in Italy?==
==Atos in Italy?==
Are Atos involved with disability assessments for the Italian Government? Or in any other European countries?[[Special:Contributions/80.42.236.201|80.42.236.201]] ([[User talk:80.42.236.201|talk]]) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)twl[[Special:Contributions/80.42.236.201|80.42.236.201]] ([[User talk:80.42.236.201|talk]]) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Are Atos involved with disability assessments for the Italian Government? Or in any other European countries?[[Special:Contributions/80.42.236.201|80.42.236.201]] ([[User talk:80.42.236.201|talk]]) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)twl[[Special:Contributions/80.42.236.201|80.42.236.201]] ([[User talk:80.42.236.201|talk]]) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Company information

A144808 (talk) 16:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC) restored the original company information. Updated with the very factual lastest company description of the press release boilerplate of Atos.[reply]

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.49.41 (talk) 19:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An employee of Atos Origin was found to have lost a USB thumb stick containg highly sensitive user information and source code for the UK governments Gateway system. someone might want to look at these links: here and here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.97.142 (talk) 23:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Benefit assessments

There is covering a legitimate topic and there is blatantly one-sided soapboxing. This crossed the line. Full of what appears to be anecdotal evidence, not supported by reliable sources with no expression of the opposing viewpoint in the midst of a welter of criticism. Gr1st (talk) 19:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:32, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]



Atos OriginAtos – Over redirect. Company has changed name (legally as well as for branding purposes). Gr1st (talk) 15:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Update employee count after Siemens IT acquisition

After acquiring Siemens IT, the company now has 78,500 employees, according to their web site. http://atos.net/en-us/about_us/default.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.61.163.221 (talk) 20:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Atos Healthcare

What's the Dr Foster stuff about? Non sequitur?

Northampton - 'deliver a solution'. Does that mean 'produce some software'? If it does, why not say so?

Notreallydavid (talk) 03:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Impending Paralympics Boycott Because of Atos -Assessment Related Suicides?

Sponsorship of the 2012 London Paralympics by Atos has led to a growing protest movement largely because of the number of suicides, which impartial Inquest juries in the UK have attributed to harassing and distressing techniques they use when 'assessing' people on disability benefits. should there not be a separate 'controversies' section for this firm? The entry appears biased without one. For example,

Two cases of benefit cut related suicides involving ex-British services personnel are poor Mr. David Sanderson of Southfield (<http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/9215292.Dad_committed_suicide_after_housing_benefit_cut/>), and Army Veteran Mark and Helen Mullins of Bedworth(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8878543/Poverty-suicide-couple-had-warned-of-hopeless-situation.html) . Another pensioner is mentioned in a later section. Then, there are the disabled suicides,such as Paul Willcoxson, 33, of Corby, Northants, who according to his suicide note, was worried about benefit cuts when he hung himself in April. And Elaine Christian, 57, of Hull, who according to reports of an inquest in July, was worried about a meeting to assess her disability benefits. She was found drowned in a drain with ten self-inflicted cuts to her wrist and had taken painkillers <http://www.cloggie.org/proggold/2011/12/06/welfare-reform-kills/> . The Taxpayer's burden was further relieved in March 2010, when Vicky Harrison, a 21-year-old, took her life with a massive overdose of drugs in Darwen, Lancashire. < http://wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/suic-m18.shtml>. + Arguably, if such people do commit suicides, they are no longer a burden on the UK taxpayer, and Atos assessments will indeed, be of enormous benefit to the public purse - but was the risk of suicide not forseen by Atos ? Another 10 benefit-cuts related suicides are:-

1. <http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/9095159.Jobseeker_took_own_life/> 2. <http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/no…s-leanne-chambers-72703-27003699/> 3. <http://news.scotsman.com/arts/Aut…suicide-39due-to-slash.6438473.jp> 4. & 5. <http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment…n/07/mother-suicide-welfare-state> 6. <http://www.thisishullandeastridin…/story-12927176-detail/story.html> 7. <http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investi…/2011/02/sick-who-gives-atos.html> 8. <http://www.guardian.co.uk/politic…rnment-reform-disability-benefits> 9. <http://www.consumeractiongroup.co…elp-me-take-Atos-and-DWP-to-court> 10. <http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-…ad-family-claims-115875-23147158/> 11. Addition to Deaths 4 & 5 Above. Mother was pregnant so her unborn baby died as well. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/PRE…TO+DEATH+HOLDING+SON.-a0213434697 Plus an example of fatal Atos misdiagnosis at <http://www.guardian.co.uk/society…l/24/atos-case-study-larry-newman>. To avoid allegations that this entry is little more than an advertisement for a private company, perhaps you should include coverage of claims of Corporate Manslaughter against Atos for failing to adequately assess the mental health impact of the way they treat disabled former tax payers when assessing them as 'fit to work'.212.139.103.26 (talk) 14:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)twl212.139.103.26 (talk) 14:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Atos in Italy?

Are Atos involved with disability assessments for the Italian Government? Or in any other European countries?80.42.236.201 (talk) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)twl80.42.236.201 (talk) 02:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]