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"Among those in between the extremes of the income strata are a large number of households with moderately high middle class incomes[9] and an even larger number of households with moderately low incomes.[6]" |
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Following the first quoted sentence with this one is not clearing anything up. Which extremes? Are they relative extremes? In what way does moderately low incomes outnumbering moderately high incomes support the previous sentence that there is a "relatively" large population of "relatively" affluent households? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.58.246.125|50.58.246.125]] ([[User talk:50.58.246.125|talk]]) 14:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Following the first quoted sentence with this one is not clearing anything up. Which extremes? Are they relative extremes? In what way does moderately low incomes outnumbering moderately high incomes support the previous sentence that there is a "relatively" large population of "relatively" affluent households? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.58.246.125|50.58.246.125]] ([[User talk:50.58.246.125|talk]]) 14:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Apparent Error in Map == |
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The map of 2009 median incomes by county shows a pocket of high income in NE Wyoming. That is Campbell County, WY. It is shown in a darker color than Washington County, OR. But the individual Wikipedia pages for the two counties state that Washington County's median income is higher than Campbell County's. This relationship holds for both "household" and "family" median incomes. In addition, Washington Country, OR is not shown in the darkest map color. Campbell County is being shown in the same "bucket" with very high-income areas like Marin County, CA. |
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Net or gross income?
Is the statistic in section 1 by the US Census Bureau, 2005, the before- or after-tax income of the households? Thank you for the clarification in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.75.60.13 (talk) 19:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
International comparison
The section was grossly misleading. It said that median household in the U.S. was "lower than that of Switzerland." "That of" implies that the comparison is being made between median incomes in the U,S. and median incomes in Switzerland. The Switzerland data are means, not medians, therefore such comparisons are invalid, or they should be redacted with extreme caution so as to not create confusion. In my estimation, mean U.S. household incomes right now exceed those of Switzerland, so not only is the comparison invalid, it might actually be misleading. I say that we revamp that section altogether and compare apples with apples, but in the meantime I edited it a little so as to not lead the incautious reader to think that what's being said is that median household incomes in Switzerland are higher than those in the U.S., which the sources provided do not support.
Thanks and I'd appreciate some feedback before changes are reverted, if anyone considers they must be.--AndresTM (talk) 08:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
2010 Update
The census and other data are certainly available by now. Should either add a section summarizing trend since then or make this the 2005-6 article and redo all the data for now. The nature of the trend is well enough known. Lycurgus (talk) 04:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Number of earners/work experience
Two of the demographic characteristics collected by the census bureau are not represented at all on this page, and they are fairly significant ones. The Census Bureau data note the number of earners in the household (none, 1, 2, 3, 4) and breaks this down by quintile (and the top 5%); they also note the work experience of the head of household (how many weeks the Head of Household works, and whether this is full-time or part-time work). Both of these factors play prominent roles in income distribution, and really ought to be added to the page. As I have never edited this page, I do not know how contentious edits to this page become, but in addition to updating the data to the most recent available, the two characteristics I mentioned should be added. Horologium (talk) 17:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Year confusion?
It seems like some of the numbers here (I'm looking specifically in the "Household income over time" section) just don't line up. For instance, there are several different claims of what the median US income is or was. I suspect that it's because they're from different years, or because they're expressed in different years' dollar amounts - does anyone know? I know that getting this updated every year would be a pain, but having contradictory information is also a pain. It would be awesome to have a source/reference that automatically updates the numbers. 18.38.2.39 (talk) 17:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
"Overall, the United States followed the trend of other developed nations with a relatively large population of relatively affluent households outnumbering the poor." The use of multiple "relatively"s here makes this statement almost worthless.
"Among those in between the extremes of the income strata are a large number of households with moderately high middle class incomes[9] and an even larger number of households with moderately low incomes.[6]" Following the first quoted sentence with this one is not clearing anything up. Which extremes? Are they relative extremes? In what way does moderately low incomes outnumbering moderately high incomes support the previous sentence that there is a "relatively" large population of "relatively" affluent households? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.58.246.125 (talk) 14:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparent Error in Map
The map of 2009 median incomes by county shows a pocket of high income in NE Wyoming. That is Campbell County, WY. It is shown in a darker color than Washington County, OR. But the individual Wikipedia pages for the two counties state that Washington County's median income is higher than Campbell County's. This relationship holds for both "household" and "family" median incomes. In addition, Washington Country, OR is not shown in the darkest map color. Campbell County is being shown in the same "bucket" with very high-income areas like Marin County, CA.
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