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The user MUWT5 is editing this page without regard to basic WP policies - [[wp:NPOV]], [[wp:balance]]. They are trying to create a [[wp:coatrack]] for their view of a particular media event related to some content on the Company's website. They have not declared their interest but their singular interest in this topic suggests an undeclared [[wp:COI]] They have been repeatedly warned about such behavior on the article [[Martin Hosking]] which they have ignored. I will leave it with more experienced editors to resolve.[[User:XcommR|XcommR]] ([[User talk:XcommR|talk]]) 22:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
The user MUWT5 is editing this page without regard to basic WP policies - [[wp:NPOV]], [[wp:balance]]. They are trying to create a [[wp:coatrack]] for their view of a particular media event related to some content on the Company's website. They have not declared their interest but their singular interest in this topic suggests an undeclared [[wp:COI]] They have been repeatedly warned about such behavior on the article [[Martin Hosking]] which they have ignored. I will leave it with more experienced editors to resolve.[[User:XcommR|XcommR]] ([[User talk:XcommR|talk]]) 22:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

: You seem to be suggesting it's not relevant or somehow biased to reference a cite about the law firm quitting over Hipster Hitler. This incident is relevant to [[RedBubble]] because it is a most unusual and notable event for a company's attorneys to publicly quit but probably not [[Martin Hosking]] because [[RedBubble]] is the client. There are dozens of other cites for this event and I chose [[The Register]] because it is so widely read. The law firm incident could do with much more coverage and other cites but other eds can decide this.

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Timing and Dates

The sources on dates don't sync up. Hosking became CEO of REDBUBBLE in July 2010 (not 2011). The Aconex press release only notes he was then the CEO of REDBUBBLE, not when he became it. I will dig around and find a WP:VS just to get the dates lined up correctly. XcommR (talk) 11:26, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, sounds good. I was assuming Hosking went from Aconex to ReBuble, but that is an assumption and its quite possible he could have been a senior executive at both companies at the same time. Any sources you can find to sort it out would be appreciated. Thanks for the help. --KeithbobTalk 02:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Could not only find a WP:PRIMARY, third para of [1] which now says Martin Hosking "has been CEO here (REDBUBBLE) since July 1 2010". Under WP:SELFPUB IMO this would be an acceptable source as no reason for it be inaccurate statement of the facts.XcommR (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Topics and REDBUBBLE

The section on Trayvon Martin is just one of many examples of how popular, trending topics lead to designs on REDBUBBLE. This was picked up by the WSJ where the site is named alongside others in relation to political campaigns [2] "very political campaign generates its buttons, shirts and trinkets. But this year the merchandising is speedier than ever—and more topical—because of "print-on-demand" companies like Zazzle, CafePress, DeviantArt and RedBubble." But it could be anything. A Tshirt on the death of Bin Laden was front of Drudge Report, something on riots in London in British papers etc. I suggest a generic comment similar to the WSJs and then examples or the article will always be out of date or picky (I am sure there is a WP policy on this but just need to find it_. XcommR (talk) 11:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point but don't understand what you are proposing in terms of content change.--KeithbobTalk 02:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am wondering whether a sentence like this might cover it. "Like other sites based on User Generated Content RedBubble has reflected current issues and controversies" [3], [4] [5]. Editors can add to the list or not as they like. By framing in this way it helps overcome the issue of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER which we have if we cover each individual case or try to pick which are more important. Clearly editors can choose to draw out and highlight larger issues covered by multiple sources and of more longevity. XcommR (talk) 03:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I like the concept of what you are suggesting but it may need to be a little more than one sentence. I would suggest something like "Some of the artwork that RedBubble makes available through its web platform has from time to time been criticized by the public and members of the press." (this is just a rough draft but you get the idea) And the WIKI principle at play here, for me is WP:UNDUE.--KeithbobTalk 16:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Concur. Will leave it with you. XcommR (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed DYK on RedBubble

... that the Australian company RedBubble used to sell baby clothes "featuring pictures of Hitler, Osama bin Laden and serial killers Ivan Milat, Ted Bundy and Charles Manson"? Created/expanded by Keithbob (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 02:52, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

More content?

This content was removed from Martin Hosking after a BLPN discussion. I'm parking it here and it can be integrated into the article as appropriate.

  • In September 2011, RedBubble was criticised for having pornographic images on baby's clothing.[1] In response to the complaints, Hosking said such sales were against RedBubble guidelines: "The fact that an image can be shown on children's clothing does not mean that it has ever been ordered or produced."[1] After being contacted by the press, RedBubble removed many of the items the same day.[1]--KeithbobTalk 02:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate Editing

The user MUWT5 is editing this page without regard to basic WP policies - wp:NPOV, wp:balance. They are trying to create a wp:coatrack for their view of a particular media event related to some content on the Company's website. They have not declared their interest but their singular interest in this topic suggests an undeclared wp:COI They have been repeatedly warned about such behavior on the article Martin Hosking which they have ignored. I will leave it with more experienced editors to resolve.XcommR (talk) 22:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be suggesting it's not relevant or somehow biased to reference a cite about the law firm quitting over Hipster Hitler. This incident is relevant to RedBubble because it is a most unusual and notable event for a company's attorneys to publicly quit but probably not Martin Hosking because RedBubble is the client. There are dozens of other cites for this event and I chose The Register because it is so widely read. The law firm incident could do with much more coverage and other cites but other eds can decide this.
  1. ^ a b c "Anger at Porn Images on Baby Clothes". news.com.au. 9 September 2011. Retrieved 3 April 2012.