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History section

At the end of this section, the sentence

The University of Wales welcomes the coming to full maturity of these institutions and will continue to work with, in particular, the newer university institutions in Wales, to assist their further development.

appears. This looks like a press release, and seems to me to have no place in an encyclopaedia. Unless somebody can come up with a reason for keeping it, I propose to remove the sentence.

Eebkent (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No comments were forthcoming, so I have now removed the sentence. Eebkent (talk) 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Associated Colleges

For what I've read, I guess the Greenwich School of Management (www.greenwich-college.co.uk) is also an associated college? It does offer MSc Programmes from the University of Wales... --Pinnecco 15:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Greenwic Shchool of Management is not an associated college but would come under 'Validated Insititutions'. The school itself is not part of the university of wales, but as you have pointed out its MSc. programs are validated by the UoW. AlexD 16:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Validated institutions

Link to the validated institutions (http://www.wales.ac.uk/defaultpage.asp?page=E7056) is broken and I can't find the replacement one. I think they probably removed this page and they did the search instead: http://www.wales.ac.uk/en/InstitutionsAndCourses/Institutions.aspx Please help! Dumbo 777 (talk) 15:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly suspect that there is no single replacement page giving a list of courses. On page http://www.wales.ac.uk/en/AboutUs/WorkingwithInstitutions/InstitutionswithValidatedProvision.aspx they say they have validated courses in 30 countries, and the page (http://www.wales.ac.uk/en/InstitutionsAndCourses/Institutions.aspx) quoted by Dumbo777 shows, for example, that they have validated courses in 7 institutions in Switzerland alone. If anybody wants to include a link to institutions with validated courses, that page is probably the one to quote. But it does seem to me to get close to advertising, so reaching the boundaries of what's appropriate in an encyclopaedia. My instinct would be just to mention that there are currently such courses in 30 countries. Eebkent (talk) 17:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

University ratings

(I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities.)

There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#University ratings. Timrollpickering 21:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting Up?

I'd heard that the University of Wales is going to be splitting up. Is this simply an unfounded rumour or is there something in it? Anthropax 20:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An unfounded rumour, I'd say. Cardiff University's merger with the Wales College of Medicine in/around 2004 has generated many rumours that instititions like UW Swansea and UW Aberystwyth are going to follow suit. Whilst it is generally accepted that UW Swansea wish to style themselves as 'Swansea University', they are still officially UW Swansea. As with so many with re the University of Wales, much of the rumour is down to bias. 15:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Scarf colours

The colours shown here and on Academic scarf#Other university scarf colours are a little out of sync, being miror images (I can see how this can arise) and having different thicknesses. Is anyone able to get both the correct way round and the thicknesses onto both articles? Timrollpickering 14:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scarf colours 2

are the colours correct? when I was an undergrad at UC Cardiff in 1984 the college colours were red, navy and gold and the UW colours were green and turquoise. --PetuniaS (talk) 12:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Students at each institution

Whilst I have no reason to doubt the stated total numbers of students for each accredited institution, the figures stated are misleading.

According to their own website "Lampeter is one of the smaller universities in Europe with around 1,000 students on its campus and with a total student population of under 10,000." [1]. Presumably the rest are distance learners?

Wouldn't it reflect the institutions concerned more accurately if distance learning students are reported as a separate column? As it currently stands, it makes UW Lampeter appear a similar in scale to other larger universities within Wales which is a clearly false impression.

--Afgyork1 12:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Endowments

I havent checked these thoroughly, but some of the figures are clearly wrong. Edinburgh and Glasgow are the two largest in the UK behind oxbridge (which I do know for a fact) at £200million and £135million. So a figure of 12billion for all of Wales and £140million for Aberystwyth is clearly wrong. Can someone verify this before it is removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.203.242 (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cardiff

Cardiff University is now a separate institution awarding its own degrees. Could someone either from Cardiff or from the University of Wales please edit the page accordingly?Kranf (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wales University the mother and Gland mother of University

This University is very Great right from its foundation down to its performance and importatnce to the past,today and feture generation not only in Britain or Europe but all over the world.for me its the mother of Education and gland mother of many Universities that exist on this globe of ours.Congs and Dedications to founders and the entire staff who still looking in every corners such possible means to let WALES University achieve more betters hence maintain its popularity to the world. my question is this, Is what means can an african purson like me can be amdmitted in this University on my understanding i see this could prove as a crime or miracle!

Elias Kavuna Rwanda email adress:ekavuna@yahoo.ci.uk

God bless WALES University and entire staff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.197.57.2 (talk) 10:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New logo for this school

I see this school's new logo when I studying in Lingnan Institute of Further Education at Hong Kong. See their official website: http://www.ln.edu.hk/life/uow/index-2.html

Can anyone add it please? Pierce (talk) 13:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Out of date

This fails to include the recent scandals which have put the very existence of the University in doubt, and have drastically changed its structure, as it now offers no outside validation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15157119 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15171830 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15191954 86.** IP (talk) 14:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd added the briefest of comments, and waswaiting for the news to calm down before writing anything indepth. Please go ahead and make any contributions to the article you'd like, wikipedia works best that way :) Jamesd (talk) 13:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the article as best i can to take into account its abolition and merger into Trinity St David.Bleaney (talk) 15:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! Of course, we'll probably need a new article once the merger finalises. 86.** IP (talk) 15:52, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It may be more relevent for that to happen in conjunction with either the Swansea Metropolitan Uni article or Trinity St David. As it stands, Trinity St David is the one that actually has degree awarding powers, so im guessing that will be the primary institution when and if Swansea Met and Trinity merge formally. All it says on trinity's own website at the moment is that they are 'working with' Swansea Met to create a new univerity in Wales. On a separate point, im sure that many articles that link to the University of Wales article will need to be updated as well to take account of its abolition, but I bet its a big task. I might have a go soon if I can be bothered, but any help would be greatly appreciated! Bleaney (talk) 18:53, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's such a major shakeup that it may be worth giving it a little time to see what's happening first, particularly for validated courses. There's so much uncertainty that it's hard to know what to say. I'll gladly help once I know what on earth I'm doing. 86.** IP (talk) 21:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bleaney (Bleaney) seems to have misunderstood the current situation. The University of Wales still exists, and will until it merges with another institution or its charter is revoked. To describe the institution in the past tense is incorrect - and tantamount to vandalism. The BBC reports listed have misrepresented the situation. The University has made its own announcements which should be cited rather than these misleading news reports. I suggest that the page is reverted and reedited after studying the facts. IoloMorg (talk) 00:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First off, you are wrong; it's not vandalism. Secondly, if the BBC is incorrect, please provide references to the contrary so that we may assess them. Until then, we can't cover what you think "the truth" is. We're an encyclopedia and cover what is verifiable and to no extent has anyone shown that the BBC article is incorrect. OlYeller21^Talktome 00:45, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about this, then: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=417921 ? Does this not suggest that the editing is a bit premature? If no-one objects I shall modify the entry accordingly. IoloMorg (talk) 17:55, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with that but this needs to be in addition to what's already noted. This is a report from the University itself meaning and counters what the BBC article claimed and does not negate it. Thanks for bringing the article here for discussion. OlYeller21^Talktome 19:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15810980

If there's anything worth including... 86.** IP (talk) 09:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I might add some stuff later - looking at it, at some stage in the future, this article should become historical and a new article about the new university formed from the merger should be created...but not quite yet...--Cameron Scott (talk) 11:22, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's just it: It's NOT a new Univesity. University of Wales, Trinity Saint David has been known as that since 2009, when Trinity Saint David merged with University of Wales, Lampeter. Since it's going to be awarding Trinity Saint David degrees, this is pretty much the University of Wales being, well, effectively abolished, as the reports say, with its responsibilities going elsewhere. The comments about how the "name will still live on" are little more than spin, since what it's merging into, by chance, already had that prefix to its name (just like probably 3/4ths of the Universities in Wales). 86.** IP (talk) 12:30, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request

there's a request on OTRS to say in the article that the university is not being abolished, just merged. As I understand it, the merger is in the nature of terminating the existence of the present institution, while providing for some degree of administrative continuity. I'd appreciate posting here on the talk page some relevant sources. DGG ( talk ) 05:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In case you haven't had the time or desire to read through the whole situation, here's my summary.

A close connection was reported at WP:COIN, a noticeboard that I frequent. After reviewing the situation, the close connection and conflict was obvious. Students and employees have been attempting to remove information about the university being abolished but were met with some resistance, namely a BBC article that claimed in no uncertain terms that the university was abolished. Other editors and I have invited them to discuss the issue on the talk page but haven't had much luck. For months, no one was able to provide a reliable source that claimed that the university was merging to counter the BBC reference. It seems now that the University's website discusses the merger but the editor who attempted to add that reference, tried to remove all information about it ever having been shut down. OlYeller21^Talktome 16:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

that is indeed my understanding.I have been following the affairs of the University from time to time, mainly from editing the articles on the many institutions with which it was previously connected, some of which were such as caused me to wonder at such a connection. I observe that eventually the national educational authorities recognized the same thing: the extensive promotionalism of some of those institutions would indeed have been likely to call it to notice. What I am now trying to resolve is the exact nature of what has occurred. The BBC source is a summary & the conclusions of a general news source about the exact nature of administrative arrangements in the bizarre world of higher educational organization may not be altogether accurate; the university's website is perhaps a little too subject to the needs of PR to be trusted in a controversial situation. Typically, much of the material is written so everybody can save as much self-respect as possible, I'm looking for some more exact documentation from the various UK sources on educational concerns. Before I search for them myself, I was hoping someone would have identified them. I would know where to find such sources for the US & I imagine there are similar in the UK, though the Googles may not crawl them. Controversies such as this are not uncommon, and there are several much disputed pages on Wikipedia about such situations. DGG ( talk ) 00:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FORMER ACCREDITED COLLEGES

The former accredited colleges section now makes no sense. I know it is a relict from trying to salvage the entry after the Universtiy of Wales collapsed in ignominy but now it has gone the two biggest former accredited colleges are Swansea University with 18 thousand students and Cardiff with 31 thousand. I think Cardiff and Swansea should now be added and the number of students column and names of vice chancellors which, again are a relict from when the Univerity of Wales did exist, should be deleted. If no-one objects in the next month or so I will make those changes.

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 :A close connection was reported at [[WP:COIN]], a noticeboard that I frequent.  After reviewing the situation, the close connection and conflict was obvious.  Students and employees have been attempting to remove information about the university being abolished but were met with some resistance, namely a BBC article that claimed in no uncertain terms that the university was abolished.  Other editors and I have invited them to discuss the issue on the talk page but haven't had much luck.  For months, no one was able to provide a reliable source that claimed that the university was merging to counter the BBC reference.  It seems now that the University's website discusses the merger but the editor who attempted to add that reference, tried to remove all information about it ever having been shut down. '''[[User:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Ol<font style="color:#FBB117;">Yeller21</font></font>]]'''<sup>[[User_talk:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Talktome]]</font></sup> 16:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 ::that is indeed my understanding.I have been following the affairs of the University from time to time, mainly from editing the articles on the many institutions with which it was previously connected, some of which were such as caused me to wonder at such a connection. I observe that eventually the national educational authorities recognized the same thing: the extensive promotionalism of some of those institutions would indeed have been likely to call it to notice. What I am now trying to resolve is the exact nature of what has occurred. The BBC source is a summary & the conclusions of a general news source about the exact nature of   administrative arrangements in the bizarre world  of higher educational organization may not be altogether accurate; the university's website is perhaps a little too subject to the needs of PR to be trusted in a controversial situation. Typically, much of the material is written so everybody can save as much self-respect as possible, I'm looking for some more exact documentation from the various UK sources on educational concerns.   Before I search for them myself, I was hoping someone  would have identified them. I would know where to find such sources for the US & I imagine there are similar in the UK, though the Googles may not crawl them. Controversies such as this are not uncommon, and there are several much disputed pages on Wikipedia  about such situations. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 00:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
+== FORMER ACCREDITED COLLEGES ==
+The former accredited colleges section now makes no sense. I know it is a relict from trying to salvage the entry after the Universtiy of Wales collapsed in ignominy but now it has gone the two biggest former accredited colleges are Swansea University with 18 thousand students and Cardiff with 31 thousand. I think Cardiff and Swansea should now be added and the number of students column and names of vice chancellors which, again are a relict from when the Univerity of Wales did exist, should be deleted. If no-one objects in the next month or so I will make those changes.