Talk:Rivne

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• • Rivne = Polish land in foreigners' hands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.107 (talk) 12:05, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

The name of the city is stated in several languages, but the Yiddish one is not correct. What is stated as Yiddish is in fact Hebrew. I do not know the Yiddish name, but i'm sure someone else will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.18.163.101 (talk) 08:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Museum

"The city has a Historical museum and a museum dedicated to the. "

To the what? Does anyone in Rivne know what this is supposed to say? Ostap 06:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Do not remove the alternate Russian form of the name

While Rivne is in the "Ukrainian" zone of Ukraine, there are still a significant number of Ukrainians who know and recognize "Rovno", even when they are from the Rivne oblast and speak Ukrainian. About half of my university students in Rivne list Ровно as their residence in vKontakte.ru and they all grew up in the Rivne oblast or in the city itself. The residents, therefore, still use both forms with ease. (Taivo (talk) 00:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC))

So what what the residents think? WP:COMMONNAME states that articles should be named after the names they are known by in the English speaking world. vKontakte.ru pre-settings are all in Russian so that doesn't proof a thing (maybe they are just lazy). How big is this group anyway? 20 students doing something does not proof the whole city thinks like them... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 09:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

No one's talking about changing the name of the article. We just don't want to remove or relegate information in the first sentence that will be important to English readers (see the following section where actual numbers can be placed). (Taivo (talk) 09:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC))

vKontakte.ru is a Russian web site. So, they write in Russian way that has nothing to do with Ukrainian cities like Rivne. So, lets write Rivne and only RIVNE!--71.187.156.246 (talk) 19:57, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

On vKontakte.ru, about half my contacts in Rivne write Рівне and the other half write Ровно, so it's not at all about whether the website is Russian or not, it's about what the residents of Rivne use when they are writing there, where they otherwise always write in Ukrainian. So even the residents of Rivne accept both names for their city. No one is trying to change the name of this article to Rovno, but the Russian alternate name is in use in English language sources and in Slavic-language sources. Indeed, when I found out I would be living in Rivne for a year, I got on the internet to find out about it. I searched for Rivne and found very little information. It was only after a friend told me to search for Rovno that I got most of the information I needed. So it's not about pushing any nationalistic agenda, it's about providing useful information for our English-speaking readers (who don't care whether the name of the town is in Ukrainian or Russian or Swahili). --Taivo (talk) 22:29, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Ukrainian cities should be written in Ukrainian way. SO lets write Rivne and only RIVNE!!!--68.38.122.179 (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Rivne or Rovno or Both

Since Rivne is never really in the news, a search of the New York Times over the last year yielded nothing. But Google Books had 29 books published in English since Jan 2009 with Rivne and not Rovno, but 96 books with Rovno and not Rivne. English speakers are going to be looking for Rovno, especially if they are looking for Holocaust information. The Russian name needs to be prominently displayed here. (Taivo (talk) 09:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC))

This is a much better argument then the vKontakte.ru one . Agree, personally never heard of the city before... geuss I was a bit to bold... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Before I moved there to teach a couple years ago, the name didn't register in my memories of reading WWII history either, so you're not alone in your ignorance of the place. But I wasn't finding any information on the internet at that time about "Rivne". I didn't learn anything until a friend told me to look under "Rovno" instead. (Taivo (talk) 10:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC))

Should be only Rivne! Ukrainian way!--71.187.156.246 (talk) 19:55, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Your nationalism is noted anonymous IP, but this is the English Wikipedia and our English readers are only interested in finding all the information they need, not about whether city's name is Ukrainian or Russian or Swahili. --Taivo (talk) 22:31, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

No Taivo, you are Russian nationalist. This is Ukrainian city, not Russian. You change everything from Ukrainian to Russian on Ukrainian related wikipedia. --68.38.122.179 (talk) 01:51, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, anon IP, but when Ukrainians themselves use Rovno, it's not even debatable whether to include the Russian variant or not. I have plenty of Ukrainian-speaking friends (I actually lived and taught in Rivne) and they vary between Rivne and Rovno depending on the mood they are in and the web program they are using. And, as stated above, Wikipedia's function is not to promote Ukrainian exclusionism, but to provide English readers with useful information. Since Rovno is still the most common spelling on the web, it's useful information to provide the Russian variant. --Taivo (talk) 02:03, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

BTW, Rovno was the official Ukrainian name of the city not too long ago. It was-suddenly-changed into Rivne only in 1991. Ukrainian bureaucrats meddling with linguistics in all their glory. :) --Garik 11 (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Here's a Ukrainian web site that includes both Rivne and Rovno (as well as Kyiv/Kiev, Kharkiv/Kharkov, etc.). --Taivo (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2012 (UTC)