Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Northern Ireland

RFC - Use of the Ulster Banner in Darts articles

Should Darts articles use the Ulster Banner to represent players from Northern Ireland? Discussion can be found here.

In addition to this there is a general discussion about the use of flags at the MOS which may be of interest. Find it here.

Cfd relating to renaming of subcategories of Category:Former pupils by school in Northern Ireland

There is currently a discussion, started on August 17, in Cfd relating to the renaming of categories for Northern Ireland alumni, subcategories of Category:Former pupils by school in Northern Ireland. Any contributions to the discussion would be appreciated.

Discussion at Talk:Demography_and_politics_of_Northern_Ireland#Requested_move

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Demography_and_politics_of_Northern_Ireland#Requested_move. KarlB (talk) 19:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

Railway station coordinates

Hello! There's a big backlog of articles about disused railway stations in Northern Ireland that need tagging with geographical coordinates, at User:The Anome/Disused and heritage UK railway stations still lacking coordinates. If anyone wants to fill these in, I'd be very grateful. There's more documentation at WP:COORD about how to do this, and the participants in that WikiProject are very helpful if you need more guidance. -- The Anome (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Amendment requested for 'The Troubles' Arbitration remedies; input welcome

Hi all,

Interested editors are invited to review and comment on a request for amendment to the discretionary sanctions remedy (R5) of the The Troubles Arbitration case.

Regards,
Daniel (talk) 04:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Rose Report

As no articles have links to the "Rose Report" (was that the colonial one of 1850 or the 1969 Rose Report on Colour and Citizenship?), is it really of enough importance to be listed in the banner template under tasks: History:, as an article in the need of creation? Twice the article has been created and twice it has been deleted.

• 04:05, 6 July 2011 speedy delete of page Rose Report as A1: Not enough context to identify article's subject (CSDH)
• 23:55, 10 August 2011 delete of page Rose Report as part of the mass deletion of pages added by FameRuler991

The other Rose Reports, such as those dealing with education have more presence on Wikipedia and the web:

2006 – Independent review of the teaching of early reading (Rose Report 2006)

2007 – ROSE Report, The Relevance of Science Education in Ireland. Royal Irish Academy, Dublin (2007).

2009 – Rose, Sir Jim (2009-06-22). Identifying and Teaching Children and Young People with Dyslexia and Literacy Difficulties. Department for Children, Schools and Families.

Even "The Rose Report" segment on Mancow's Morning Madhouse has more presence on Wikipedia. Then there is the "Welch-Rose Report" of 1915 dealing with public health. If you folks are serious about a Rose report article, might I suggest (1) a temporary location as a sub-page of this project until a decent page could be whipped into shape and (2) some time spent in paper-based libraries to find accurate citations to reliable sources, since there don't seem to be any such web-based ones. Meanwhile, you could answer these questions: Who commissioned the report? Who was the author? What year was it issued? Why is it important in the history of Northern Ireland? --Bejnar (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• Please could someone answer these questions about the requested Rose Report: Who commissioned the report? Who was the author? What year was it issued? Why is it important in the history of Northern Ireland? --Bejnar (talk) 20:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

• It seems that the Rose Report is not significant, therefore I have removed it from the task list. --Bejnar (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Photos of murals not allowed on Commons

Seemingly, due to some ridiculous copyright rule, photos of murals arn't allowed on the Commons. The Commons has almost 300 photos of Northern Ireland's famous murals and they appear on many Wikipedia articles. I think it would be a real loss for Wikipedia if theze wer' to be deleted.
What can we do about this? ~Asarlaí 21:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

If you can find murals where the painter(s) have been dead for 70 years, then we won't be infringing their copyright at least in most places. Dead for 100 years in almost all places. While there may be copyright in the photo of a mural, the copyright that we'd be infringing is that of the original artist(s). Roman Empire murals and mosaics are just fine, copyright has expired. --Bejnar (talk) 19:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I believe most of Northern Ireland's murals fall under graffiti and so are alllowed; this would definitely be the case with most 1970s and 1980s murals when they largely consisted of Union Jacks, paramilitary initials or a hastily-scrawled "Brits Out". As for later murals when they improved in execution (pun not intended) and quality, who exactly would own the copyright? The leaders of the paramilitary organisation of which the respective mural is representing or the actual artists who normally paint under the direction of some tattooed shaven-headed head buck cat who stands below barking orders?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:45, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Agree. These murals have been photographed and published for years in newspapers and more scholarly works (eg Rolston) without any copyright infringement issue being raised, as far as I am aware. RashersTierney (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I see they are getting trigger-happy over at Commons. One mural has already been deleted without proper discussion. I cannot wait til Commons comes a-begging for more photos of monuments. They can fuck off with their high-handed ways and ignorance.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:45, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks like the lawyers are taking over the asylum. RashersTierney (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

And Wikipedia will be left looking like a visual desert.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Northern Ireland tasks

The Template:Northern Ireland tasks lists under History, articles needed for History of Armagh, History of Newry, and History of Lisburn. Now there is for each of those places a separate article on The Troubles: The Troubles in Armagh, The Troubles in Newry and The Troubles in Lisburn. And each of the articles at Armagh, Newry and Lisburn have a History section that covers the time before The Troubles. Given the above, I propose to remove the three requested articles from the template. Of course the three history sections could all use expansion, but they all have the basics down. If there is no objection, I will remove them from the listing. --Bejnar (talk) 22:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:Gaelic games governing bodies in Northern Ireland

Category:Gaelic games governing bodies in Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:Constituencies of Northern Ireland

Category:Constituencies of Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:08, 28 October 2012 (UTC)