Talk:Noel Ignatiev

OY VEY! THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE IS ANTI-SEMETIC! WIKIPEDIA WILL BE CHARGED FOR ITS' HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE POOR DOWNTRODDEN JEWISH PEOPLE!

Russian-Jewish descent?

A minor note. I doubt very much that Dr. Ignatiev is "of Russian-Jewish descent". In particular, he has apparently stated that he is not of Jewish extraction: http://racetraitor.org/letters6.html. (Besides, not many Jewish parents name their son Noel, ie Christmas...) So I'm removing pending evidence to the contrary. AnotherBDA 07:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

According to Instauration (April 1998: 17), "Chief guru of white studies is Noel Ignatiev, who says he is not a Jew but was raised in a Jewish home." Lightningstrikes 04:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I read the letters page in question. At no point does he state or hint that he is not of Jewish extraction.Dogface 13:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

An update. On October 20 Malik Shabazz erased the following edit to revert to the statement that Ignative was of Jewish descent. The only note on the erasure was that the user was deleting "nonsense". That "nonsense" was as follows: Ignatiev, whose first name is derived from the Christmas holiday, was born to parents said to be immigrants from Russia and occasionally alleged to be Jewish, although Ignatiev is typically a Slavic family name. This information is sourced and more definite than the unsourced and unlikely assertion -- apparently a relevant one to Mr. Ignatiev's speaking position on various matters -- that he is Jewish.

SDS leader

Noel Ignatiev has a long history as an SDS leader and later as leader of SDS offshoot Sojourner Truth Organization. The total lack of biographical material and corresponding lack of discussion of the ideological genesis of his theories about "whiteness" is a weak point of this article. Peter G Werner 10:09, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

VDARE a reliable source?

Could anyone please tell me why Vdare is quoted in the page as an authority?? I'm sure the learned users of wikipedia could come up with more respectable and widely accepted sources that critique Mr. Ignatiev's positions. - James

I have removed the references to the website vdare.com, as they neither accurately characterize Ignatiev's arguments nor do they represent the consensus of scholarly opinion of his work. Though future revisions may mention the criticisms found on vdare, it should alert readers that vdare.com represents a minority opinion which flirts with "white nationalist" extremism. I will soon add to this article by referencing criticisms of Ignatiev's work from such scholarly journals as the American Historical Review.Rational kernel (talk) 08:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

"Flirts with "white nationalist" extremism"? Try refuting what they say instead of simply spewing ad hominem. And you wonder why wikipedia has a bad reputation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.109.239.233 (talk) 10:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I was surprised to see VDARE quoted as a "reliable source". As you wrote, it is associated with the white supremacist lunatic fringe. Thank you for fixing that. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 16:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

And this is why Wikipedia is a hypocritical project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.235.144 (talk) 20:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Written clones

Much of the wording in this article appears to have been directly cut and pasted from other articles. The editor should maybe either clean up the wording or delete it. Just saying... 206.211.166.17 (talk) 19:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Cleaning up dates

The timeframe for this article is all over the place. It starts in the 1980s, vacillates between the 50s and 70s and picks up again in the 90's? What? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.133.86 (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2011 (UTC)