User talk:ShivangTyagi

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December 2012

Hello, I'm Jojalozzo. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Homeopathy without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, I restored the removed content. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Jojalozzo 19:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, best practice on such a page as the homeopathy article which is one of the most controversial articles in wiki, is to discuss on the talk page before making changes. The part you removed has been discussed before on the talk page, but is something I plan to raise again soon, as its clearly a false statement, as anyone knows - at least the word quackery is rarely used amongst medics in my experience and I doubt the source used to back it up has much in it either, though ultimately, whether anything is true or real or not is not the issue on wiki, its about evidence to back up what is written. Most of the editors active on that article have very strong views, as you will find out if you edit there. Maybe catch you about sonn :) Cjwilky (talk) 20:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Minor edits

Please don't mark any edits which make any non-trivial changed to content minor, as per WP:MINOR. Thanks, a13ean (talk) 20:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring on homeopathy

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Skinwalker (talk) 20:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanx Skinwalker To Aware Would Keep that in mind..

Please use the talk pages

I'm glad you joined us on this project. As a new editor, your contributions will be most helpful if you discuss your edits on the talk pages of the articles before attempting to edit them. You are responsible for applying Wikipedia policies and style guides when you edit so while you're learning all of the Wikipedia ways of doing things, it's best to check with more experienced editors to make sure you are on the right track. Thanks. Jojalozzo 20:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

And, don't forget to sign your messages on all talk pages (including this one!) using four tildes (~~~~). Jojalozzo 20:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, That Would Be Good Jojalozzo.. I Mistakenly Added A Copyvio tag in my last edit. which has been reverted back . can i undo that ?? i feel i have allready tried to revert thrice before bcoz of small things. Shivang Tyagi (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes Thanx.. I Learned That... Shivang Tyagi (talk) 20:57, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

You will find that Wikipedia is very forgiving when we admit our mistakes and learn from them, so you are doing fine. Edit summaries are one of the few things that cannot be modified therefore I suggest acknowledging your mistake and moving on. (If you edit this page you will see I put a semicolon (:) in front of this message which indents it under your message so we can all tell it's a response. That's the "talk page way".) Jojalozzo 21:14, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

 : Going Through Them

Ha! This is a little tricky. To indent a line, put semicolons (:) at the front of the text but no spaces in front of the semicolons. Adding spaces before the semicolons puts the text in a box and it looks weird like what happened to you here. Keep trying! Spend time playing in the sandbox to get a feel for how it all works. Jojalozzo 21:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Meanwhile I started A Discussion on homeopathic talk page but its being shown on top above the contents..

probably mis positioned. m nt getting how to put it under the contents heading. i added few references but their heading is not being shown have to edit it for that.. not getting a way.. Shivang Tyagi (talk) 21:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

And don't forget to check out all the links in the welcome message at the top of this page. That's where you can start learning how Wikipedia editing is done. Jojalozzo 21:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the copyvio tag, can you provide evidence for this, by citing the exact source you are claiming it is copied from (with page numbers etc if it is of any significant length) so this can be verified. Given the article history, and the amount of discussion over this, I think it is extremely unlikely to be a copyright violation (hence my revert) - but if it is a copyright violation, we would take this seriously, as copyright violations can on occasion lead to litigation etc. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello AndyTheGrump , I got that .. That Revert Is Fine As I Mistakenly Added that Copyvio tag.

But Basically What am Interested for is To Remove The TAG of quackery which wikipedia article on homeopathy says.. wikipedia being trusted by billions of people worldwide. Its the responsiblity not to deliver such biased content for/against anything.

THE BOTTOM LINE SHOULD BE OF PROVIDING THE AUTHENTIC STUDIES AND SHARING KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE SAME..

Shivang Tyagi (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

See my reply on the article talk page (I've moved your comments to the bottom, where they should have been placed) - Wikipedia articles are based on credible recognised reliable sources, and for an article like our homoeopathy one, such sources need to conform to our Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) policy, which the sources you provide clearly don't. You should also read the 'Frequently Asked Questions' at the top of the talk page: note that we aren't saying that homoeopathy is quackery, we are stating (with sources) that it has widely been described as such. The article has been a subject of considerable debate, and isn't going to be changed in the way you propose based on the sources you provide. If, after looking at the material I link, you still wish to discuss this, I suggest you find sources conforming to our policies which are relevant (i.e. sources that actually contradict the assertion that homoeopathy is widely seen as quackery in the medical field), and then raise it again on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:08, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Can You Please state any papers or documents stating homeopathy as quackery. Should be evident enough. rather than personal opinions of doctors from allopathic field.

Shivang Tyagi (talk) 22:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I have explained Wikipedia policy to you. I have provided the links to such policy - and that is all I'm prepared to do here. I'm not interested in having the same discussion in two different places, and given your talk page comments, you appear not to have read the relevant policy. Please do so. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

The Preview button

The Preview button next to the Save button is one of the most important features of Wikipedia editing. It will show you what your edit will look like so you can go back in and fix any errors.

I strongly recommend you read the articles linked in the Welcome message at the top of this page and spend some time in the sandbox to get a good feel for how to edit and format text before going much further in articles and talk pages. Jojalozzo 21:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

yes jojalozzo am going through them. will try sandbox too.

meanwhile i corrected that article on talk.

Also its important after saying something on a talk page to put four tildes ~ at the end, or you can hit the tildes at the bottom of the editing box where it says "Sign your posts on talk pages:~~..." :) Cjwilky (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes Have Started Putting Signatures. Shivang Tyagi (talk) 22:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Help

I have changed the {{help me}} tag as it looks like you are already receiving assistance. If this is not the case please replace the {{help me}} tag at the bottom along with your question. --wintonian ^talk 22:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

There's no deadline

While it maybe seem that something written on Wikipedia that you disagree with is going to cause great harm, please reconsider. This is a work in progress, a very long term project. If we don't correct something right away please have faith that if it is truly wrong it will be corrected in time. Your contributions to improving the encyclopedia are always appreciated but we are developing the work in a collaborative manner, which takes much more time and greatly more energy to coordinate than if we were doing it alone, each to our own part, but which will in the end produce a far better product. Jojalozzo 23:43, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Atleast Lighted Some Hope :) .. Thnx ! Shivang Tyagi (talk) 23:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)