Talk:Puerto Rico statehood movement

Merge to Puerto Rico (proposed state)

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The article Puerto Rico (proposed state) topically overlaps with Puerto Rico statehood movement and also partially with Political status of Puerto Rico and Puerto Rican status referendum, 2012. There's a lot of duplicated text. I propose that all detailed text related to the possibility of the territory becoming a U.S. state should be consolidated into this article.  Sandstein  11:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

 Done Ego White Tray (talk) 22:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

N Not done and not likely to be done — Reverted per WP:NOTADEMOCRACY, WP:VOTE, and WP:IAR. Discussion held at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico. Resolution was:

1. Puerto Rican statehood movement remains as a stand alone article. This is supported by Puerto Rico independence movement, Puerto Rico free association movement, and [1].
2. Puerto Rico (proposed state) becomes Proposed political status for Puerto Rico which will detail all the different political status proposed for Puerto Rico and their implications (not only statehood which was its sole content at the time of this discussion). Essentially it will be the parent article for Puerto Rican statehood movement, Puerto Rico independence movement, and Puerto Rico free association movement with an overview, history, and sections detailing each movement and their implications. The sections detailing the movements should use {{main}}.
3. Political status of Puerto Rico remains as a stand alone article about what Puerto Rico is today.

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 23:03, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• Merge. This is actually a good idea, as this is different from previous attempts.Ericl (talk) 15:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
• Merge. I agree the information should be consolidated - but I think it should actually be consolidated into the Puerto Rico (proposed state) page because there has now been a change in this political issue - we're no longer talking about a political idea but a substantive election and proposal that will be debated and will become part of the American national political discourse for the next few years (if we go by how long Hawaii and Alaska took to become a state once they voted for it). I think it's crucial to graduate the discussion to reflect what has changed in fact and that presenting the page as one focused on the proposal to move the territory into full statehood would provide a much cleaner and accurate resource for those using Wikipedia for information on the subject. There should be clarity that it's no longer a political 'movement' alone but that a proposal has now begun to materialize, information related to the statehood movement itself is now mainly historical: the background that should flesh out a Puerto Rico (proposed state) page.--Polisci101 (talk) 21:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
• Merge. I also feel that the info should be merged into the article Puerto Rico (proposed state) with over 60% of the population it is at an all time high. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:42, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree that Puerto Rican statehood movement is the better title for the topic. Puerto Rico (proposed state) sounds like a disambiguation title. Wikipedia uses parenthetical disambiguators only to distinguish between different topics that share the same name. Here, the topic is not Puerto Rico as it would be as a state (if it ever becomes a state, that article will still be Puerto Rico), but the political movement and process leading to statehood.  Sandstein  08:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

• Keep as a stand alone article. Wow, this clearly was a really bad decision. This article should stand on its own since it explains the political stand from a very specific and narrow point of view. That was not consensus, I'm reverting it back per WP:NOTADEMOCRACY, WP:VOTE, and WP:IAR —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

See Puerto Rico independence movement as well. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 17:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Just created Puerto Rico free association movement too. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 18:03, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Request for comment

A request for comment related to this article has been opened at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico#Request for comment - Puerto Rico statehood article structure. Please comment there. Ego White Tray (talk) 19:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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