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To be honest, even with all this I can't promise you you'll get yourself unblocked. But this is the only way, IMHO, you can even have a shot at it. If you ask me, you're not a troll; a troll intentionally disrupts the project, but does little damage. I don't believe that your disruption has been intentional, and I think it's been far more disruptive than any run-of-the-mill trolling. The only way to get unblocked is to acknowledge that you understand why you were blocked, and that you will do everything in your power to avoid such behavior again. You've already filed three unblock requests that fail to do this. If you file a few more, admins may lose their patience, and revoke your talk page access.''' — <u><font color="#000000">[[User:F&A|Francophonie<font color="deeppink">&</font>Androphilie]]</font></u>'''<sup>(''<u><font color="#000000">[[User talk:F&A|Je vous invite à me parler]]</font></u>'')</sup> 09:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC) |
To be honest, even with all this I can't promise you you'll get yourself unblocked. But this is the only way, IMHO, you can even have a shot at it. If you ask me, you're not a troll; a troll intentionally disrupts the project, but does little damage. I don't believe that your disruption has been intentional, and I think it's been far more disruptive than any run-of-the-mill trolling. The only way to get unblocked is to acknowledge that you understand why you were blocked, and that you will do everything in your power to avoid such behavior again. You've already filed three unblock requests that fail to do this. If you file a few more, admins may lose their patience, and revoke your talk page access.''' — <u><font color="#000000">[[User:F&A|Francophonie<font color="deeppink">&</font>Androphilie]]</font></u>'''<sup>(''<u><font color="#000000">[[User talk:F&A|Je vous invite à me parler]]</font></u>'')</sup> 09:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC) |
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Hi Fracophonie, |
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Thanks for taking the time to write such a long message - I appreciate this. |
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In terms of what I said about the age - I didn't mean to cause offense. I thought I read somewhere that you had to be over 18 to make these decisions but I think I was getting confused with the check user privileges. |
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I have already read some of those policies but will read the rest later today. I am not a troll - I just need time to get used to all these acronyms, policies etc. |
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From what started out with me writing an article about my favourite website has turned into a massive thing which was not what I was expecting. |
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I really don't have any more time to argue and debate with the usrs since its clear they just want it deleted despite what I have said. For example one user just wrote there is another site called Amirite.net. This is Amirite.com!! This is precisely why I had to keep responding on the AFC delete page. |
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In terms of the rest I agree to do them (of course I can only apologise once I am unblocked) - can you apologise for me? |
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On a side note I am actually French and Jewish (shame about the gay part though:) |
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December 2012
Hello, I'm Zymurgy. I wanted to let you know that I removed an external link you added to the page Social media, because to me it seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thanks, Zymurgy (talk) 00:16, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Re:Amirite.com Article
I'm not the one who made the Articles for deletion nomination. Delicious carbuncle was the one who did so; you'd be better off talking with that user. Also, I can't close the nomination right now per the Articles for deletion project rules; it would have to be done by an admin. Lugia2453 (talk) 00:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for your message. The main social media articles are referenced in the lead so it didn't seem appropriate to include a selection plus some newer ones per your edit. Good luck with your editing--Zymurgy (talk) 00:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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Let's talk it out, why don't we
If you're going to refuse to respond to my points, I'll be forced to take this to ANI. You can't simply restore off-topic criticisms of another editor and then refuse to justify it. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 12:16, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey,
I'll get back to you later today -I'm about to go to work,
Thanks,
Philip
December 2012
This is your last warning. The next time you remove an Articles for deletion notice or a comment from an AfD discussion, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amirite, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:54, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Proposal to ban User:Craddock1 from further comment on the Amirite AfD. Thank you. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 05:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Block Appeal
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Request reason:
Hi there, I was in the middle of a discussion regarding my block when I was blocked. Please unblock my account since I have promised not to do personal attacks again even though I was informing the admin's about the editors behavior. I am new to WIkipedia so hope you can give me another chance. Also the people involved in the discussion were <(partially incorrect) age details removed>/ I hope you will fairly and objectively assess the matter. The fact that I made 74 edits to my own new article is not 'trolling'. Craddock1 06:35, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
No, you have made an egregious violation of policy by tracking a possibly underage editor to another website with the threat of contacting them in real life. This unblock request is declined. MBisanz talk 06:47, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi there - I didn't mention I would contact them and never intended too...this link was mentioned on their profile page and I was copying the link to show they were under 16...Craddock1 06:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Disclosing an editor's age on Wikipedia when they have not disclosed it on Wikipedia is also a violation of policy. MBisanz talk 06:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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Craddock1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Hi there - I didn't mention I would contact them and never intended too...this link was mentioned on their profile page and I was copying the link to show they were <age details removed>. They have disclosed their age as <age details removed>. We were in a discussion to temporarily block me from editing an article and now I have been permanently blocked despite me explaining that i will not break the rules again?. Craddock1 06:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
The outing was only one of many problematic parts of your conduct. The very reason you brought up the editor's age was to insult them for it, as well as many other instances of personal attacks and trolling at the ANI discussion. The reason the ANI conversation was going on, in turn, was because of your disruptive and unacceptable behavior at yet another discussion. You haven't given any reason to believe you've understood that, or that unblocking you wouldn't just lead to more disruption. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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- They did not disclose their age on Wikipedia. Researching someone's age via Facebook and then posting it on Wikipedia is prohibited unless they have already disclosed their age on Wikipedia.
CommentThis is the link on their wikipedia page: (removed) Anyone who would click on this link would conclude (remove). How am I supposed to know not to click on links and make conclusions. I know now and have learnt me lesson and it won't happen again. Can you unblock me now please.
If you unblock me I promise to adhere to all rules. You can watch me closely and if I break one rule you can block me again...Craddock1 07:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC) Comment I was in the middle of responsing to an AFC debate about an article I created. If I am not able to respond the article will get deleted since I have done hours of research on the topic.Craddock1 07:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- You've broken the policy AGAIN by posting the link to their facebook page. If you continue to violate policy by posting personal information in that manner, your talk page access will be revoked. MBisanz talk 07:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Comment oh sorry - I thought this page was hiddenCraddock1 07:05, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Comment I've learnt my lesson now so can you unblock me please?Craddock1 07:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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The reason I brought up the age is because I thought that these types of decisions should only be decided by 'adults' and people over 18.
I understand now what you are saying and want to apologies for my disruptive behavior
I have learn't my lesson and it won't happen again. You can watch me closely and if I do one thing wrong you can block me again, ok? Craddock1 08:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Notes:
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{{unblock reviewed |1= Hi there, thanks for taking the time to review my case. The reason I brought up the age is because I thought that these types of decisions should only be decided by 'adults' and people over 18. I understand now what you are saying and want to apologies for my disruptive behavior I have learn't my lesson and it won't happen again. You can watch me closely and if I do one thing wrong you can block me again, ok? Craddock1 08:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
I'm in the process of writing a comment to Craddock1 on how he should properly format an unblock request. I'd appreciate if the reviewing admin could hold off on declining this for a bit, since I'd like to see if, once it's all been thoroughly spelled out for him, he's capable of doing it the right way. If you don't see this as a compelling reason to hold off on declining, and least please don't revoke talk page access yet, since I think this is much more of a CIR situation than a trolling one. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 08:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)- Comment written. See below. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 09:12, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
My 2₵
I think everyone deserves a fair chance at getting unblocked. I'm not an admin, but I'm fairly familiar with how things work around here, so here's my approximation of what it would take for you to get unblocked:
- Read all of the following policies: WP:OUTING, WP:NPA (especially WP:NPA#WHATIS), WP:BATTLE, WP:GD (especially WP:GD#General advice), WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and, of course, WP:GAB
- Promise to not engage in any of the following behaviors: ad hominem attacks, overreaction to accusations, accusations of sockpuppetry, incivility, and repeatedly ignoring warnings or advice
- Agree to not contribute any more to the AfD. Seriously. You've said all there is to be said. Keep on editing the article, fine, but really, going on any longer will just be disruptive. Nothing you say can circumvent consensus, and so far there hasn't even been a strong consensus to delete; you've probably done more damage by going on so long than any of the "delete" !votes have done.
- (Just so you know, if it's deleted, you can request that the admin who deleted it transfer it to your userspace, where you can work on it, resolving any issues cited as grounds for deletion).
- Agree to seek mentoring on Wikipedia guidelines and process, especially when it comes to the technical side - how to format comments and the like. Poor formatting isn't in and of itself grounds for blocking, but everyone's patience wears thin eventually.
- Retract the mark you made about some "governance committee". Admins are expressly prohibited from unblocking you if you've made any legal threats.
- Apologize to A Wiggin13 (talk · contribs) and myself for the accusations you made against us. Believe it or not, there's more than one gay teen out there who speaks French.
- Apologize to Delicious carbuncle (talk · contribs) and PeterWesco (talk · contribs) for disrupting the AfD with ad hominem attacks.
- Assure everyone that you will never again comment on another editor's age unless they have clearly stated it on their userpage. Better yet, say you'll never comment on another editor's age, since there's pretty much never a good reason for it.
- Mend any other fences you can think to mend, and agree to not engage in any other behavior that is identified as problematic.
To be honest, even with all this I can't promise you you'll get yourself unblocked. But this is the only way, IMHO, you can even have a shot at it. If you ask me, you're not a troll; a troll intentionally disrupts the project, but does little damage. I don't believe that your disruption has been intentional, and I think it's been far more disruptive than any run-of-the-mill trolling. The only way to get unblocked is to acknowledge that you understand why you were blocked, and that you will do everything in your power to avoid such behavior again. You've already filed three unblock requests that fail to do this. If you file a few more, admins may lose their patience, and revoke your talk page access. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 09:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Fracophonie,
Thanks for taking the time to write such a long message - I appreciate this.
In terms of what I said about the age - I didn't mean to cause offense. I thought I read somewhere that you had to be over 18 to make these decisions but I think I was getting confused with the check user privileges.
I have already read some of those policies but will read the rest later today. I am not a troll - I just need time to get used to all these acronyms, policies etc.
From what started out with me writing an article about my favourite website has turned into a massive thing which was not what I was expecting.
I really don't have any more time to argue and debate with the usrs since its clear they just want it deleted despite what I have said. For example one user just wrote there is another site called Amirite.net. This is Amirite.com!! This is precisely why I had to keep responding on the AFC delete page.
In terms of the rest I agree to do them (of course I can only apologise once I am unblocked) - can you apologise for me?
On a side note I am actually French and Jewish (shame about the gay part though:)