User talk:STATicVapor

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Much love on creating these articles and your edits and whatnot. You have a lot of similarities in me. I am a die hard wrestling fan, loves music (especially rap), and I want to be a record producer. If you could give me advice on stuff on wikipedia that would be much appreciated. PyschopathicMan 03:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

The Checkuser Mixup & Thanks To Helping Soulja Boy Page Out

Hello STATic Verseatide My Bad About My Talk Page Having the mixup with the checkuser, which you is absolutely right i am not, & will be removed. Also thank u for your assistance on Soulja Boy's page you seem like you ara a cool person, I thank you whole alot especially with these users that be trying to put false facts down. Please stay in contact with me, because though im not a check user I would love to become one, no matter how much work I gotta do. MusicLover1Hunnid (talk) 20:52, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Also make sure you provide a reliable source to all changes, as it took me awhile to find an official source that the albums title had been changed to that, but good job on fixing that in a first place. Keep in mind if you are going to use Twitter as a source ever. The information should come from his official twitter, not anyone elses. Also you have that you are a checkuser on your WP:Userpage too. STATic message me! 21:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

T.I. And Chris Brown

Hey man I understand, If you dont like T.I., ok, he is well-known as the king of da south, everybody in the hip hop industry now that T.I. has been compared with tupac , of course wikipedia is angry with T.i. since get back up (song). t.i. said in many interviews that he has multi-platinum albums, trap muzik and king in july 2010 was 2x platinum, paper trail has been 3x platinum as july 2012. no mercy sold over one million in the US as december 2012. of course chris brown x album is irrelevant for u , but you have to think in the Fans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.215.12 (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about? First of all i'm fans of both these artists, i'm just keeping a WP:NPOV in Wikipedia. First of all the "King of the South" thing, the infobox and lead are for official stage names, not nicknames. I personally would not compare him to Tupac, so would you happen to have multiple reliable sources to major hip hop critics calling him that? I also said recorded tracks are irrelevent, because its true, artists recorded upwards to 100 songs for albums sometime, so they have nothing to do with this album if they are not confirmed. STATic message me! 00:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Young Dro

So it appears he's not sticking with the 3Krazy moniker, as he has released "F.D.B." and "Notorious", two songs from his upcoming mixtape, under the name Young Dro. You mind changing it back?

It must be taken to WP:RM. Now that I think about it, it should be Young Dro since that's his WP:COMMONNAME. If you take it to requested moves, I will definitely support it. STATic message me! 00:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Rap a lot records

Yeah we made a change for the new producer we have if you can put it back up plz thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperez92 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Well can you provide a reliable source to back up that change? If you do not, it cannot be added. STATic message me! 02:56, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The Funkadactyls edit war.

HHH Pedrigree has also been apart on the edit war. I keep editing the page because he keeps trying to redirect the page because he does believe its noticeable enough which it is since they are appearing at the companys big event of the year where only the important people appear. So could you please that the ban off? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ8946 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I explain the situation twice. First, I explain to Miss X-Factor, the creator of the article and he/she understand it when I said "weekly matches aren't notable, few matches blablabla". He/she understood it, but you appear and make the same mistake. I explain it in your talk page and in Tons of Funk AFD, but you don't understand it. At the end, your edition was reverted by other user. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Appearing at WrestleMania does not make the team notable as has been pointed out to you multiple times. They have their own separate articles for a reason. STATic message me! 02:55, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but you don't get to decide that by yourself. You need to take the article to WP:AFD if you think it doesn't satisfy WP:Notability or WP:GNG. Toddst1 (talk) 22:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Is there a notability guideline for theatric wrestling? That article looks like is backed up by some weak sauce.  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  22:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I've started (or at least primed) a discussion on the article's talk page. Toddst1 (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

If it as simple as redirecting a weak, clearly not notable article, it can be taken care of via redirect instead of the AfD process. I only stepped in to attempt to stop the edit war between the first two posters on this discussion. STATic message me! 23:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Response

Uh yeah i was just uploading higher quality versions, and i will upload the Hotel California deluxe in a sec.Koala15 (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh wait should we just change the artwork to the one with just the tiger, i'm confused because different websites are still using both. Koala15 (talk) 23:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The file could be glitched, i already uploaded the one with tiger so will use that. Koala15 (talk) 23:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Strange Music

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Started from the Bottom (Additional Writers)

I figured out how to see what you had changed.

FWIW, both ASCAP and the Harry Fox Agency (which are official licensing sources) show that there were either 3 or 4 writers on STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM. I did not post a specific resource due to the fact that, unfortunately, the two sources don't agree and both of the sources require a click through approval, so I was not able to provide a direct link to the information. That said, please feel free to take a look at what ASCAP and Harry Fox have listed, and decide what you think is best. You will see that there is no question about Noah "40" Shebib being one of the writers.

https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

http://www.harryfox.com/songfile/public/publicsearchresults.do?forward=drilldown&index=0

Mohansen11 (talk) 00:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Considering ASCAP is his publishing company I took the writers they credited and added it to the article. STATic message me! 00:47, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM (Producer Credits)

HipHopDx said Mike Zombie was the sole producer; http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.23605/title.Drake-Started+From+The+Bottom

Rolling Stone said Noah "40" Shebib was the sole producer; and http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/drake-works-his-way-up-in-started-from-the-bottom-20130211

Rap Up says they both produced it: http://www.rap-up.com/2013/01/31/drake-set-to-release-new-single-on-grammy-night/

Mohansen11 (talk) 01:09, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

If only they would formally release this sort of information more clearly. Actually Rolling Stone just says he is working on the album with 40, not that the song is produced by him. I also found this, this, this crediting Mike Zombie as the sole producer. STATic message me! 06:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Reply

I get what your saying, but wikipedia is having a major lag when you overwrite a file it just doesn't update so instead of wasting my time i just upload a reduced version on a new file, i don't see the big deal. Koala15 (talk) 17:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Yep when you overwrite an existing file it just doesn't update, it's been happening everywhere. Koala15 (talk) 20:35, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Travi$ Scott picture

Thank you for your time.

The picture is one that Travis personally asked me to upload to his Wikipedia page.

How do i upload this without any trouble? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Millyman77 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Uploading images for anything you could want to know. The fact is the the image must be free-use and not copyrighted unless you have proof of the copyright holders permission. STATic message me! 03:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Album sales reply

Yeah that looks good i will use that from now on, though some albums only get like 2 weeks on the charts so the "since" thing makes sense there. Koala15 (talk) 22:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Chris Brown - "Home" Prod. by GlassJohn

yea just because a record is publicized produced by a producer doesn't make it true. blogs make mistakes. album credits will reveal this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.43.52 (talk) 22:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Well it is sourced by a reliable source and the album credits are long from being revealed. You also have yet to provide a source that he is the sole producer. STATic message me! 22:28, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

a blog site does not count as a reliable source . whats an email i can reach you at ? the record was improperly publicized and another producer is taking credit that is undeserved . its honestly not that serious . but i would like to understand what levels do we need to take this to ? management or legal team ? do i need RCA to contact you and show you proof of what i'm saying ? do i need to send you split sheets for the song ? Chris is not mentioning Arthur in any interviews . and the interview that you provided to site that it is going to be a bonus track on iTunes does not mention Arthur anywhere in it . there are only 2 creative individuals on that song . Glass John and Chris Brown . no other producers or writers . so tell me what you need and we can take care of it . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.43.52 (talk) 06:52, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes I recently noticed that. Do you have a reliable source that just credits Glass John as the producer? If you do then go ahead and change it and add the new source in the <ref></ref> tags when you edit the article. Also please do not threaten other editors. Thank you. STATic message me! 19:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

i just read what i wrote i do not a see what part of that paragraph you could possibly consider a threat . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.43.52 (talk) 22:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Telling me you are going to get his legal team after me/Wikipedia. Chill out and provide sources for what you want to be changed, not blindly change it without saying why. STATic message me! 22:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

never said his legal team. i was asking if you need to see legal documentation. or to be contacted by management. relax. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.43.52 (talk) 06:40, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Also have you yet gave any type of URL source backing your edits? No you have not. STATic message me! 14:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Cover

Why would you remove the deluxe edition cover from Finally Rich? It is not similar at all, i can see when its the same cover just a different color but this ones totally different. I think you might taking the wikipedia handbooks out of context. Koala15 (talk) 02:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

First off my recent revert was before seeing this. Second the covers are practically the same outside of the cover diference. The stylization of his name and the title are the same, he is wearing the same shirt, and it focused on his face and upper body and he is blowing out smoke. I do not understand you saying they are not similar when they are. This goes against the Non-Free image policy as it adds nothing extra to the article. Trust me I have been here long enough, this has happened many a time. Deluxe edition covers should only be used in the case that they are completely different such as with Jesus Piece and Hotel California. In case you did not read it the first time, see Template: Infobox album. STATic message me! 02:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I really don't think they look similar, and what you are saying is just based off of your opinion. If you really care that much start a conversation on the Finally Rich talk page about it and see if other people agree with you. Koala15 (talk) 02:16, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Logic Discography

Hello, I was wondering if you knew anything about Logic's mixtape pages being redirected to his main wiki page? Thanks! NanishaOpaenyak (talk) 16:44, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Well as mixtapes they are generally not notable per WP:NALBUMS unless they are covered widely by reliable sources. However, these easily failed WP:NALBUMS. Wikipedia pages on mixtapes are only appropriate if they are covered by many reliable sources. Considering he just signed to Def Jam hopefully we can get an album sooner or later. It's also possible that his next mixtape will be notable since he has been getting more mainstream coverage. STATic message me! 19:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks once again! NanishaOpaenyak (talk) 21:55, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Commercial Performance reply

Yeah i get it now. Koala15 (talk) 18:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Octobers Very Own

Hello i have been making changes to the OVO page. Thanks for making it! I just wanted to update 2 pictures but dont know how. Can I send the pictures to you by email? The pictures are the OVO Owl logo and the OVO Fest logo! thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tovonxo (talk • contribs) 00:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I did not make it, I just fixed it so it would not be deleted considering the condition it was created it. Also please when you make changes especially to the "Members" section provide a reliable source for your additions. I will go ahead and add the OVO Owl logo right now. STATic message me! 00:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay kool also ad the ( OVO fest logo ) picture as well with the OVO fest part! if you have time thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tovonxo (talk • contribs) 00:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

If you want to upload an image go to Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and make sure to make sure it is fair use. STATic message me! 19:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Enough Said

Check this out, I made changed to Enough Said by Aaliyah & Drake because the companies (Blackground & OVO) are under Warner Bros. and Interscope — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jevon Tompkins (talk • contribs) 17:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

So? What is the source that the singles/album is being released under OVO or Warner Bros.? You have recieved many warnings about adding unsourced content. Provide reliable sources whenever adding or changing content, what part of that is hard to understand? STATic message me! 19:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

And it says on the Aaliyah Enough Said artwork cover it has the Blackground & OVO logo which both have distributing companies over them.

Well that is WP:OR. Also songs let alone albums are never distributed by two labels and OVO did not even have the Warner Bros. deal when the song was released. STATic message me! 22:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

October's Very Own

I made that OVO page if that was alright with you. I just don't wanna get blocked you know?

Why would you be blocked? STATic message me! 22:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

X

Chris Brown says he will turn 24 when the album comes out, suggesting that's when it's going to be released.--Launchballer 14:11, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Nowhere in that source does he say the album will be released on that date. He just says thats his birthday and since then he has said the album will be released in June or July. Do you really think it will come out in less than a month without a album cover or any more information released yet? That is illogical. STATic message me! 14:22, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Artist discography

So what's the deal with all of the edits? I'm not picking and choosing to change a few select articles. Other articles had that format for discographies and I was just also copying it. I cannot go to every single artist and do it. There are too many. That's why I was doing them one at a time more or less. So stop changing the edits. I'll limit it to the main studio albums, but do not change the format. Everytime I edit on a musical artist's article I run into you. Why is that? Banan14kab (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Jesus Christ learn how to type. I have to read your posts like three times to understand what you are trying to say. I gave you the links in my edit summary at Game (rapper). You need to have consensus from WP:MUSICIANS to make these major changes over many articles, because it needs to be the same across the project not just on a select few pages. You "run into me" because unlike you I know what I am doing, and you clearly are still trying to learn. Also in case you need to read the guidelines again see, Wikipedia:MUSICIAN/Article guidelines and WP:Manual of Style/Lists of works#Discography. It's clear as day. It says there how discography sections are supposed to look. If you think otherwise, drop something on one of the talk pages.STATic message me! 22:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I was typing too fast. Also there were only a few typos so don't act like I'm illiterate (you made some grammatical errors in your response btw...). Anyway I know consistency is important on the site. Like I said I wasn't aiming to change a few select pages. One more thing...I think the real reason I run into you is because you patrol music articles, hip hop in particular according to your page, so please get off the high horse. Maybe you've been here longer and that's cool, but you don't have to get egotistical and condescending. Banan14kab (talk) 07:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

A few? Do not try making me laugh. Stop, I do not know how old you are, but you are over-thinking this. Yes I patrol hip hop articles because if I did not there would be horrible editors like you making everything wrong and inconsistent. Maybe you should stay in other subjects if you do not bother to read the polices or guidelines before editing. STATic message me! 15:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Uh yea...there were only some errors here and there. I think you could've easily made out the typos I made as I only messed up some of the order of the letters or pressed another close by key. I don't care if you find it funny or laugh. I just typed fast like I said. I'm not a kid or teen if you must know. And I put it simply that I edit to the best of my ability. I don't see how I'm over thinking it. I'm just saying it how I see it. Also you're not the only editor who knows what their doing (not talking about myself), but you're the most egotistical one I've met on here. I've made plenty of constructive edits before. I didn't think to look up the guidelines before and I acknowledge that you provided them in your edit summaries. I just wanted to talk to you about it. Also I know you mainly patrol hip hop articles so don't make our run ins seem like it is because I'm such a "horrible editor" that "doesn't know what they're doing". Yea I admit I'm still learning, but I'm not completely ignorant or a novice editor. Someone else actually made that format before and I thought it was correct. So I didn't do it automatically on my own whim and like I said I didn't think to look up guidelines. I 'll be more careful in the future. Banan14kab (talk) 23:58, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I only act this way to you because, since our first run into on here you act like its your way or no way with your edits, no matter how many people revert you or tell you you are wrong. Comments like "Oh not you again" and "so whats the deal with all of the edits?" do not really leave yourself a good impression. You are overthinking that I go out of my way to revert all your musical article edits. Brushing up on policies and guidelines should have been your first thing you did when you started editing Wikipedia. To be honest with you I never saw that style used on any article in the discography so I saw it as you making up your own style. STATic message me! 00:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok I apologize for any instigating I may have stirred up. I've had similar situations with edits on wikis before. And I first saw it on Dr. Dre's and 50 Cent's articles so that is where I copied the style from. You can check earlier versions and edit histories if you do not believe me. Banan14kab (talk) 00:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Album Stream

Hey! This album stream is authorized by the distributing label, Nature Sounds. DJBooth.net is a content publisher, who works directly with record labels to provide their platform for authorized streaming. BZisook (talk) 17:49, 23 April 2013 (UTC) Brian Zisook, 4/23/2013.

So what? Album streams for promotion, are not notable and do not need to be linked in an encylopedia. STATic message me! 18:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but how could you say that an album being released for stream is not notable? In today's music industry, with a newfound importance placed on streaming music, the availability of an album in stream form is both newsworthy AND notable. News articles were written about Justin Timberlake's decision to stream his new album, several weeks before its release, through iTunes. Does this rule only apply to lesser known, not-as-popular artists? BZisook —Preceding undated comment added 21:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Have reliable sources also been reporting on this albums streaming? DJBooth.net is hardly a reliable source in its own right. Twelve Reasons to Die was just released for stream before its release, this is not as rare of an occurrence as you seem to believe. STATic message me! 21:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Nowhere did I write this was a "rare occurrence." In fact, it is becoming more popular. And yes, there are plenty of reliable sources, for example Rolling Stone or NPR, who also host newsworthy and notable album streams upon release. Here is a link to an article on Rolling Stone. And DJBooth.net IS a reliable source. It is a leading publisher of original music content, part of the Complex Media Network. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

A reliable source about Floats album stream not some other random artist obviously. According to your logic that would also make YouHeardThatNew.com, MaskedGorilla.com and NahRight reliable sources which they, along with DJBooth are not. These are all blogs not proper news sources. STATic message me! 22:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sir, you asked to see an example of another outlet reporting on the streaming of an album, which I provided for you. In the case of Float, here is a news mention on HipHopDX.com. It is very clear that the issue at hand here is in regard to what makes a publisher of original content a "reliable source". DJBooth.net is not a blog, like the others you listed, but even so to write that a blog cannot be a reliable or proper news source is uninformed and inaccurate. AllHipHop.com is a website in the same media network, similar to DJBooth in that it curates newsworthy, proper and original content. After doing some digging, it states on the [Links] page, under "Links normally to be avoided," that outbound links about newsworthy topics are allowed, so long as the source is a [Authority]. DJBooth.net is indeed a recognized authority in urban music.BZisook (talk) 05:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Evil Dead 2013

Hi StatIc,

You keep deleting the Order of Deaths section for Evil Dead - 2013 Film. For the record, I emailed Wikipedia and ROn Jones confirmed that it does not violate any terms or standards. I have also successfully posted this section on other horror film web pages.

The fact is, the manner and order of kills is a central theme of horror film. People want to know how/why/when people were dispatched. I absolutely intend to keep re-posting this section, it is both central to the plot and provides something that the horror fans want to know. If this doesn't fit, why bother explaining deaths in the long-form plot, or providsing details on Easter Eggs or sub-plots?

Further, you noted that the section is "not sourced." I looked and none of the statements in the plot are sourced... simply because the plot section is created by people who have seen the film and are describing the plot. Though I would be happy to provide the source (the film itself), I do not know what the appropriate method would be. Would be happy to include any "source" you deem worthy.174.79.35.85 (talk) 18:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC). Evan

I see no where in your contributions or proof that any "email" occurred. It is clearly unencyclopedic and needs to agree with WP:V and WP:RS. Order of deaths the occur in a movie are trivia and are not used anywhere else on Wikipedia so they should not be used here. You can look for other Wikias where this information is logical to be included. STATic message me! 18:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

The referenced email:

Wikipedia information team <info-en@wikimedia.org> Apr 13 (13 days ago)

Dear Evan B,

Thank you for your email. Our response follows your message.

04/12/2013 20:08 - Evan B wrote:

> Hi,

>
> I am a big fan of horror films. Often, many fans of the genre want to know
> how a person in a horror film is dispatched. I have been editing several
> pages (most recently - Evil Dead 2013 film) and providing an Order of
> Deaths section in the plot to reveal such info. I have noticed that this is
> being removed from each page.
>
> I was curious why? It is part of the plot and I am not using any vulgar
> words or phrases to describe what happens? Can someone please explain?
>
> - Evan

I can't say - you would have to check the history page and see who removed it. It does not violate our policies. However do remember that all data needs to be referenced - if you add large sections and no reference - then it's more than likely that someone will take it out.

Yours sincerely,

Ron Jones

Again, this is not trivia, it is plot. It has been posted on other pages (although, I fear if I direct you to those pages, you will simply delete). Again, I am willing to work with you on formatting and/or citation. Otherwise, we appear to be at a logjam.

Evil Dead 2013

Static

"remember that all data needs to be referenced - if you add large sections and no reference - then it's more than likely that someone will take it out." You're over here wondering why more than one person has removed this.

You - to my knowledge, are the only person to remove this section. Again, I have yet to read one Wiki page where PLOT has been cited (simply put, it can't be cited as PLOT comes from the viewer reading the material).

It is trivia and violates WP:OR. Please read these guidelines before continuing to argue your side.

I have read this and do not agree that it is trivia. It is substantive referencing both character and plot.

The list of deaths in a horror movie is the definition of trivial information and encyclopedic and not backed by a reliable source.

Again, this is substantive information bearing directly on plot. It is as "reliable" as whoever posted the plot itself - or do you think that should be deleted as well since it contains no citation?

Also no where in the email did it say they supported your change.

I never said my change is "supported," what I said was that the Wiki editors stated it did not violate their policies. The email reflects that directly. Although iut did note that large information sections need to be cited, you have yet to direct me to any plot of a movie that has a citation, nor have you demanded what sort of citation you want. You tell me what citation, and I will make the changes accordingly.

Otherwise, it seems there is no dealing with you. I will continue to post this, and you will continue to delete it. Good luck.