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Similar applies (but under a different aspect) to the question of banning the NPD party. That should be kept in the article, but as a separate section. - As almost all right-wing extremists seem to have (or have had before) some connections to this party during the formation period of their ideological outlook and concepts, it is widely regarded as sort of a hotbed. The common expression for this in Germany is ideological [[Water heating#Tankless_heaters|"Durchlauferhitzer"]] (tankless heater), figuratively speaking. - At first glance, this information may seem ''POV''ish, but it isn't. Just put it quick and short.<br />
Similar applies (but under a different aspect) to the question of banning the NPD party. That should be kept in the article, but as a separate section. - As almost all right-wing extremists seem to have (or have had before) some connections to this party during the formation period of their ideological outlook and concepts, it is widely regarded as sort of a hotbed. The common expression for this in Germany is ideological [[Water heating#Tankless_heaters|"Durchlauferhitzer"]] (tankless heater), figuratively speaking. - At first glance, this information may seem ''POV''ish, but it isn't. Just put it quick and short.<br />
Just wanted to inform the readers that all this is not so much a matter of ''undue weight'', but article is somewhat still ''"under construction"''. The additions had been made to keep readers informed, and help them to put things into perspective that were already in there. - In the meantime a translation of the german version is being prepared as well ([[Talk:National_Socialist_Underground#Translation from German|please see above here]]). Looking forward for comments, especially where better explanations are needed for readers outside Germany. Proofreading and corrections of language errors also very much welcome. -- [[Special:Contributions/46.115.2.46|46.115.2.46]] ([[User talk:46.115.2.46|talk]]) 15:36, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to inform the readers that all this is not so much a matter of ''undue weight'', but article is somewhat still ''"under construction"''. The additions had been made to keep readers informed, and help them to put things into perspective that were already in there. - In the meantime a translation of the german version is being prepared as well ([[Talk:National_Socialist_Underground#Translation from German|please see above here]]). Looking forward for comments, especially where better explanations are needed for readers outside Germany. Proofreading and corrections of language errors also very much welcome. -- [[Special:Contributions/46.115.2.46|46.115.2.46]] ([[User talk:46.115.2.46|talk]]) 15:36, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

== Update - current events ==

The [[modus operandi]] of the NSU was to do their murders and bank-robberies in a hit-and-run style. Usually they hired a camper van. Then they approached their targets on mountain bikes. Afterwards they weathered out the hot pursuit (encyrclement) by the police forces in that camper van. - Two kinds of weapons had been used. Mainly that silenced Ceska (which now could be traced back to a vendor in Switzerland, according to reliable reports on swiss and german public TV) and a converted italian [[Starting pistol]] (i.e. that kind of gadget used for launching in sports events; they did some kind of tinkering to upgrade it for firing live ammo). - Two more heads of the Offices for the Protection of the Constitution at state level had to resign during the main time since my last edit. - The trial against the last surviving member of the terror-trio, Beate Zschäpe, had been posponed over a scandal about the admittance of press-correspondents and is now due to start next month.
My main aim here had always been mainly to provide good reliable english references. - Sorry, I had some very unpleasant experiences on WP (bullying and obstructive filibustering). Therefore I'm not active anymore. (My user-name then had been [[User:CaffeineCyclist]], besides many edits as IP 46.xxx.) - Greetings from Germany. and I hope this answers your questions. --[[Special:Contributions/176.6.140.52|176.6.140.52]] ([[User talk:176.6.140.52|talk]]) 00:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Move to National Socialist Underground uncontested Mike Cline (talk) 01:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]



Nationalsozialistischer UntergrundNational Socialist Underground — WP:English Narziß Goldmund (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Translation from German

I am working on a translation of the German version of this article in my sandbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eoinjones/sandbox

I would welcome any comments, particularly suggestions about how the articles should be merged when the translation is complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eoinjones (talkcontribs) 10:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eoinjones, please look at your talk page, just wrote a reply for you. -- 46.115.26.127 (talk) 10:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bank robberies

What's still entirely missing in the article so far, is the long series of bank robberies attributed to this terrorist gang. (14 in all, to my recollection.) -- 46.115.20.149 (talk) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just added that (plus reference) to the opening paragraph. Perhaps the list of this series should be detailed later on. (Reason, imho: Each crime they committed should have increased the chances of being caught...) -- 46.115.26.127 (talk) 12:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Work in progress, Invitation for comments

Readers should please note: Much editing (and adding references) has been done in recent days. In the process it has become clear that some parts of the article should be considered as side topics of the main story. Namely e.g. the sensationalist report from the Stern magazine. Adding references and expanding showed, it's most likely based on a forgery of an impostor who wanted to cash in. (But that's not the final word yet.)
Similar applies (but under a different aspect) to the question of banning the NPD party. That should be kept in the article, but as a separate section. - As almost all right-wing extremists seem to have (or have had before) some connections to this party during the formation period of their ideological outlook and concepts, it is widely regarded as sort of a hotbed. The common expression for this in Germany is ideological "Durchlauferhitzer" (tankless heater), figuratively speaking. - At first glance, this information may seem POVish, but it isn't. Just put it quick and short.
Just wanted to inform the readers that all this is not so much a matter of undue weight, but article is somewhat still "under construction". The additions had been made to keep readers informed, and help them to put things into perspective that were already in there. - In the meantime a translation of the german version is being prepared as well (please see above here). Looking forward for comments, especially where better explanations are needed for readers outside Germany. Proofreading and corrections of language errors also very much welcome. -- 46.115.2.46 (talk) 15:36, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update - current events

The modus operandi of the NSU was to do their murders and bank-robberies in a hit-and-run style. Usually they hired a camper van. Then they approached their targets on mountain bikes. Afterwards they weathered out the hot pursuit (encyrclement) by the police forces in that camper van. - Two kinds of weapons had been used. Mainly that silenced Ceska (which now could be traced back to a vendor in Switzerland, according to reliable reports on swiss and german public TV) and a converted italian Starting pistol (i.e. that kind of gadget used for launching in sports events; they did some kind of tinkering to upgrade it for firing live ammo). - Two more heads of the Offices for the Protection of the Constitution at state level had to resign during the main time since my last edit. - The trial against the last surviving member of the terror-trio, Beate Zschäpe, had been posponed over a scandal about the admittance of press-correspondents and is now due to start next month. My main aim here had always been mainly to provide good reliable english references. - Sorry, I had some very unpleasant experiences on WP (bullying and obstructive filibustering). Therefore I'm not active anymore. (My user-name then had been User:CaffeineCyclist, besides many edits as IP 46.xxx.) - Greetings from Germany. and I hope this answers your questions. --176.6.140.52 (talk) 00:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]