User talk:Jetstreamer

Fleet Images

Hi, I am just wondering what you think about this please? I am just a little sick of people flooding article with images. I like the way Kenya Airways is with a minimal amount of images. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 10:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

 Already commented at the article's talk page.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 10:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Qantas Jet Age

The citation I included for the Comet 4 information was included in my edit and was from here - http://www.aussieairliners.org/dh%20comet/austcometregister.htm.

The 747SP and 747-300 information was from here - http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/aust747index.html

The 767 information was from here http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-767/767australia.htm

I am happy to add in the citations for these if you like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trentles (talk • contribs) 12:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Adding them will help. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Air Namibia article change

Hi

I thought the fact that I am a pilot with the company, albeit a senior pilot, will be enough grounds for the changes to be factual.

Currently 4x E135's are operated. 2x B735's are no longer in service. V5NDI has been ferried to the UK; and V5TNP is awaiting spares in Johannesburg, in order for the ferry flight to take place.

FYI: http://www.airnamibia.com.na/fleet

41.182.93.17 (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC) Regards tbl

Although you did not provide the link above as a source, I will be bold and accept your explanations regarding the recent edits you made to the article. Let me remind you that being related in any way to the company does not count as enough proof. Actually, you did not include the reference above in an inline citation, and formally your edits are unsourced.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Regarding changes on destinations of Turkish Airlines

There is wrong data about the flight detail of Turkish Airlines and I just tried to correct that which is Kuala-Lumpur flights. There wrights "resumes" and it has to be changed with "begins" this is all. I follow Turkish Airlines everyday even my office is just nearby Ataturk Airport. I can see the runway,parked planes,take offs and if they change the runways rarely landings. There are so many things to correct but Wikipedia do not let me correct the mistakes or add missing parts. For example cargo flight of MAS or Korean or 3 times a week I see the planes of Iberia which they resumed like that. What do I have to do to sort these corrections out and add the missing details.

Best regards,

Rifat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.238.127.230 (talk) 08:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

That's great, but Wikipedia has a strict policy regarding the verifiability of its contents. I'm afraid personal experiences do not count as a reliable source.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:06, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Chernobyl disaster

You removed a phrase I added in the lead section, explaining there that... this "adition" does not belong in the lead section. Well, some downright stupidities, though, it seems belong there, in your opinion. Anyway, I still wonder why it is ok to keep in that very lead section the fact that official soviet casualty count was disputed (w/o a hint to any verifiable source or reference) and the truism that the "cancers are still being accounted for", but not a detail that clarify the fact that beyond any dispute, and beyond any statistic made today or in the future, there is already KNOWN the fact that any increase in cancer rates, if detectable, shall be small. BTW, suggesting that one of the effects of radiation spread by the accident is having "deformities" in humans (or animals) is downright false and stupid, at least according to the source I already cited in support of the claims you hurried to remove:

So when we put these Chernobyl-related doses in context, it is reasonably clear that a large increase in cancers is unlikely. […] Despite these strong scientific data, stories in newspapers, magazines, and even books continue to describe children with birth defects supposedly from Chernobyl and, in one instance, a three-headed cow. These claims have no basis in fact.

Not even the more- and heavier-exposed survivers of the a-bombs in hiroshima and nagasaky had frequently such "deformities", and the explanation for that fact is quite simple. So, simply removing a pertinent elucidation supported by verifiable and reliable sources, that tried only to remove the doubts a more-than-imperfect phrasing slyly suggest, you seem pretty much biased. Can`t you try to contribute more - and more often - in ADDING details substantiated with verifiable and reliable sources, than "contributing" here by removing the contributions of the others, my dear "jetstreamer"? Remus Octavian Mocanu (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Aeroflot Flight 593

Hello,

I just reverted your edit to the Aeroflot Flight 593 page because I wanted to clarify that this addition was in fact just a translation based on the primary source (The Youtube video linked). Which is why it should be a part of the article.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:15, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

And where's the source? The section is unreferenced.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a youtube video of the flight recording from the black box [The second "External Link"]. That is the source of the transcript. I've clarified the same in the section the best i could. Maybe it could be made even clearer? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:20, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the source should be placed within the section. Maybe, after the ":" and immediatley before the transcription. Nevertheless, I doubt about the reliability of YouTube.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether its best to do that when we already have it in external links. Is there a best practise to follow for the same?

I too would ordinarily doubt a Youtube video, but this video appears both hard to replicate as well as correct to all the facts. I'm very sure this video is genuine. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

P.S. No need for Talkbacks. I'm watching your talk page right now. Also, if need be, linking my username works just as well (Thanks to the new notifications) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Let's keep it, then. Regarding the sourcing of the section, I'll include an inline citation if you don't mind. Please check the article and tell me what you think. BTW, do you miss the OBOD as much as I do???--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:35, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

The inline citation looks good. A note could be even better I think, as its better to clarify that it is a tranlation of the entire incident.

Yes, i do. I'm currently using Writkeeper's script as a temporary measure but we're also discussing bringing back OBoD with the Echo team. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I've also re-added the external link, as I think it will be otherwise likely to be missed when placed in the references section. IMO its better to have a little redundancy than not displaying a critical (primary) source about the incident. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool, that's good for me. I have a concern regarding the name of the unidentified pilot. Is there any source for that? Is tha stuff included in the video?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

None that the editor translating it told me of. I believe it was because the audio of the pilot could not be identified from the recording [Either was non-distinguishable from either pilot's voice, or was unlike both of their voices] but other transcripts (There is one incomplete one referenced in several places) noted him as "Makarov". TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll check the sources already in the article and see if can find something mentioning this name. I think we're done with this. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Alright. Ping me if you want me to look over something. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:32, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• Good morning! I'm the user who translated the recording and added it to the article. My apologies for failing to add an inline citation; not sure what I was thinking there. For some reason I believed the youtube link would suffice, but obviously forgot it was listed under "External links" not "Sources". Thanks to both of you for clearing that up.
• "V. E. Makarov" is expressly identified as the third pilot by the official investigation report (at the top of page 5 and in other places thereafter). I'm a little pressed for time now, but will also add that as a reference later today. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for that.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll archive the official report you added as soon as WebCite is alive again.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:37, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Is the link for the official report dead? The url provided above takes me to an image.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

That's strange, I thought I had linked directly to the PDF but apparently the website forced a redirect. Do you see the link right above the embedded video, beneath the image (where it says Официальный документ расследования)? That should take you to the document. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Maybe we should wait a couple of days...--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Strange that you can't access it. I can re-upload the PDF somewhere if needed, I had the presence of mind to download it to disk last week. It's possibly the only comprehensive source on the subject, it'll be hard to improve/expand the Flight 593 article without it. (I'm hoping to gradually get it to GA status.) Tempodivalse [talk] 20:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)