Talk:Earth 2 (TV series)

Fan Stuff

Someone should probably add a paragraph or two about the various fan-related events that took place during and after Earth 2's original network run. I seem to recall reading that fans of the series were the first to run a full-page ad in Variety magazine; they also paid for an airplane to pull a banner supporting the series at some awards show. Plus, there were a few Earth 2 conventions put together by fans following the demise of the series.

I thought there was some fan-related information on the main page...did someone delete it? If anyone is interested, I can help add some of that stuff...I was one of the organizers of the "Sky Ad" that flew over the site of the 1995 Emmy Awards (where E2 won for Special Visual Effects) as well as New PacifiCon '98 and a contributor to the Variety Ad...and an attendee at New PacifiCon '96... and so on and so on... - Maryb889 04:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

We need verifiable sources for that kind of information or we can't put it within the article, sorry. Matthew 07:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what would be considered verifiable but I have lots of items from these events. There really was no press. But I can get my copy of the Variety Ad, my NP'96 and '98 programs...stuff like that. I have video of the Sky Ad but not sure how that helps here. Is that good enough? Let me know what works and I'll see what I can do. I just think in light of the fan-related renewal for Jericho it would be cool to show how we tried to do the same thing...that E2's fans cared that much, too. We just weren't successful. - Maryb889

If you have the issue number (or publication date) of the magazine then that's a verifiable source, yea. This site has some mention of fan campaigns (that's a verifiable source as well), I believe Earth2TV also had some mention -- but it seems the owner has shut the website down. Also, is the Sky Ad video uploaded online? It would be pretty nice to see it (I only started watching the series in 2006)! Matthew 14:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding UPN Information

After NBC dropped the show, UPN expressed some interest in picking it up. A promotional video was quickly put together to show UPN executives (you used to be able to see it at an Earth 2 website). However, changes that had been instituted by new showrunners that NBC had brought in turned UPN off of the series. I cannot find much information about this aside from Usenet and Earth2TV.com so I am not sure what to say about it. But I think the page needs a paragraph about how close we came to Season Two. 209.51.77.64 02:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• I assume you're looking at http://www.earth2tv.com/info/second-season. First of all, good lord, those were some crappy changes they wanted to make. Perhaps it's better that the series died after a good first season rather than a horrible second one. I'll write up a paragraph later when I'm not so tired, but I agree it should be mentioned. Are fansites like this considered an acceptable source though? Koweja 03:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Ok, it's added. If anyone can find any other sources, that would be great, because right now we only have this one source to go one.

Cast, Episode Guide to seperate pages

Given how large the cast section is, perhaps it should be moved to a seperate page. Same goes for the episode guide. 209.51.77.64 02:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• I disagree. The page as a whole isn't that long, and both of thoses sections are fairly short - especially when compared to cast/episode lists for other shows. You really only need to split off episode guides when the series runs for several years and/or there are detailed entries for each episode. The Earth 2 guide has neither of those two qualities, nor does it really need them. As a result, it's easier to really all of Wikipedia's information on the show when it's kept to one page. Koweja 02:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Changed my mind, I'm undecided now. The page is now just over 30kb, which is kind of long, but not really. I'm planing on expanding the episode descriptions soon, but I'm not yet sure how long the page will be. If the episode section gets really large (say around half the size of the article), then we should split it. But, for right now, let's leave it. Unless other people feel strongly about spliting the page. Koweja 01:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

60 min?

Were the episodes actually 60 minutes long, or has someone included commercials in the running time? Arctic Gnome 16:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• Sixty min includes commercials. The Man Who Fell to Earth (Two) was 47 minuets long, so I'm going update the page to reflect that. Koweja 02:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Earth 2 at Wikiquote

I've started an Earth 2 page at Wikiquote, so if anyone has any good Earth 2 quotes, please add them. Koweja 02:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Chronological order of two of the episodes

"After the Thaw" aired April 2th and "The Boy Who Would be Terrian King" aired April 23rd. Now Thaw takes place 109 days after the crash and Terrian King takes place 104 days after the crash. Is this another case of the network screwing around with the series and showing them out of order, or did the show's writers decide to make Terrian King take place out of sequence? Koweja 01:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Copyright violation?

It appears that many sections of the article are directly copied and pasted from Ann White's Earth 2 FAQ. Did anyone secure her permission before copy-pasting the data onto Wikipedia? --Edward Sandstig 15:45, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. It appears it was copied word-for-word, I've removed all the plagiarised text and will start doing some work to this page soon once I've finished with the LOE. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Missing text.

Look and you shall find what I'm talking about. One of the sentences is cut off, near the beginning. Unfortunately, I don't know much about the series, so I can't amend this. 83.21.19.172 17:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. It's fixed - that was fast, too. 83.21.19.172 17:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Morgan Martin = Proto-Baltar?

Just thinking, they resemble each other in manner, morals and appearance. - MSTCrow 14:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I've not seen Baltar compared to Morgan before, hehe. Matthew 14:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

ooooh....not nice! Besides, technically Baltar predates Morgan...so I think not so much...but I'm biased, being Morgan's biggest fan and all... - Maryb889 04:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Mooncross

I'm generally against linkspam but this website seems OK, due to the nature of the show not being massively popular it's unlikely Wikipedia will definitively cover the show -- so the information contained on that website is valuable to our readers. Matthew 19:45, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Gaal

Shouldn't something be said about Tim Curry's role as Gaal?

No. I am sure Tim Curry would agree.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

x files reference

I added a reference where they mention the tv show in an episode "one breath" Mindflayerz (talk) 08:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The reference section is for listing citations, not for one show talking about this one :) AnmaFinotera (talk) 09:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Only the US, Australia and Poland?!

This show aired in germany, too. I think in 1996/97. Afaik it aired in Austria and Switzerland, too. TomGaribaldi (talk) 21:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

It also aired in Sweden. --Fiskbil (talk) 02:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I remember watching it in Ireland as a kid, probably on Sky1 Crumplecorn (talk) 01:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Also aired in Norway in 1998 and as a rerun some time later. 193.215.199.34 (talk) 10:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Referenced criticism

This article could use some negative criticism. I just watched part of the first episode, and my impression was that it was one of the most implausible sci-fi plots ever written. Going 22 light years to provide a healthy environment for a couple dozen kids? A government attempting to blow up a ship it would never see arrive anyhow? Letting kids run off and contact local wildlife on an alien planet? Add to that appalling random, weak acting from most of the leads. I was watching it for free, without commercials, and I turned it off after an hour. Surely other critics must have done the same. Wikipedia is not a fan site. This article needs balance on this. Sincerely, Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 02:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Balance? I don't know if you've actually read the article, but there's no criticism at all included here—neither positive nor negative! It only sticks to the facts about the show. Oh well. If there was a "Reception" section, then maybe some (from both sides, that is) could be relayed here. That said, I believe your comments do not belong at all on Wikipedia: you come and write about a television program on its discussion page as if it were an IMDb message board or something alike. If you're not happy about the show, fine. If you felt you've wasted your time watching it, fine. But keep it to yourself (or to other, more appropriate websites) while we're busy working constructively on the article. Thank you.
• H☼ωdΘesI†fl∉∈ ^{KLAT} • 06:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I disagree the show was terrible, I watched the entire thing on netflix and it makes Battlestar Galactica (1978) seem like War and Peace. There was a reason there was only 1 season the article should mention this.