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United Tournament

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PROD removed with the reason of "good known tournament, plz start a full discussion." I disagree, and believe the original PROD rationale of "non-notable friendly competition, not significantly covered in reliable sources" remains valid. GiantSnowman 13:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the exact same reason:

2013 United Tournament (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 United Tournament (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 13:22, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Strong keep. No reason to delete this article. Big coverage in Russian/Ukrainian media, not only in sports media, for example see [1] [2] [3] (congratulations from President of Ukraine) etc (many links in the articles). Best clubs of the leagues took part in it. Potentially impact to create the United Russia-Ukraine league in future [4]. Similar notability as for other 2013 friendly tournaments. NickSt (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - and where is the significant (i.e. non-WP:ROUTINE) coverage? GiantSnowman 18:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• WP:EANP. See above and many links in the article. Normal coverage not different from another supercups. Ukrainian Super Cup and Russian Super Cup have the same level of prestige. NickSt (talk) 19:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Keep An important tournament getting huge coverage in the CIS. I think definitely deserves an article. It's not just a random friendly tournament, it carries a lot of weight with it. 176.26.247.147 (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Can you evidence that by showing significant coverage in reliable sources? GiantSnowman 20:36, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

The user writing above already gave you a lot of notable links, so I will not waste my time on that. I will give you that: [5]. It's a "tag" on the biggest Russian sports website dedicated to the tournament, where you can see how many news are posted about it and how many comments those news receive on the website. 176.26.247.147 (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• Delete Non-notable friendly tournament. The closing admin should have a look at the contributions of the IPs, as to me they look like obvious meatpuppets (both appeared to comment on AfDs regarding friendly tournaments). Number 57 13:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Really? The General Director of Zenit said he hopes the tournament will be a proto-type to a union between the Russian and Ukrainian championships[6]. The prize fund is 1 million Euro, which is a lot[7]. 176.26.247.147 (talk) 19:22, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep. Many reliable sources, notable tournament. 178.93.236.79 (talk) 01:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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• Strong Keep Is this article really nominated? Its a tournament which get sa huge amount of coverage and is clearly a big topic in thr CIS. Thats even before mentioning the fact the organizers are the same guys who are in charge of the united championship between Russia and Ukraine proposal. Thats obviously a more important tournament than all those friendly tournaments in Spain which are not nominated, and even more than the Anglo Italian cup, because it didnt carry the context of uniting the two championships. Sunderland against Di Canio (talk) 14:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Fair point! That tournament is definitely more important then the Anglo-Italian Cup, the [Anglo-Scottish Cup]], the Audi Cup and the Premier League Asia Trophy, and DEFINITELY more important than the Telekom Cup, Trofeo Santiago Bernabéu and the Joan Gamper Trophy. I smell an anti-East European bias in those nominations to be honest. 176.26.247.147 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2013 (UTC)