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This article was nominated for deletion on 15 December 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

Questionable source

This source may be unreliable, for the following reasons:

A massacre is a an action against a defenseless crowd. There is nothing said about the context in which "about 200 Hungarians were massacred in Gerendkeresztur (Grindeni) and some 90 beaten to death near Marosújvár".
The name of the author Hilda von Klausenburg looks like a pseudonym (it means "Hilda from Cluj" in German)
It seems to be a self-published source - WP:SPS
The text could be POV. There are accusations that the work contains insults (Romanian: vexaţiuni): [1] (Iaaasi (talk) 07:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

I don't agree with your assessment. That source looks a LOT more reliable to me than the source that you inserted. Especially since the source is actually about the topic of this article (atrocities against Hungarians) while your source not only seems dubious, it is not even about the article topic at all so anything it mentions is in passing. In fact just by reading the text "Hungarians killed many(??) Romanians, including beggars and old people. 2" it could be the sentence that comes up when discussing unreliable sources. Hobartimus (talk) 09:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The unreliability of the two sources (Megemlékeztek az Alsó-Fehér vármegyei magyarellenes vérengzésekről and Hilda von Klausenburg: Magyarellenes atrocitások Erdélyben és Romániában: 1784-1956 ) was also confirmed by 3 neutral users, so I eliminated them from the article (Iaaasi (talk) 12:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Recent Edits

I think that it is generally a good idea to provide details (e.g., names, events), if we can, but these details should make sense. I have two questions about the recent additions:

"[...] was executed at Almas, for opposing joining the Hungarian army." is a bit dubious since the revolutionary army mainly consisted of volunteers. Please, explain and provide a (translated) quote.
"[...] were killed for opposing robberies committed by Hungarians". It sounds a bit strange, could you provide more details? Exactly what kind of robberies they were opposing for which they were executed?

Thanks, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 22:41, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It is a mistake here. Die Siebenbürger Bote has to be changed to Der Siebenbürger Bote. Der Siebenbürger Bote was the real name of the newspaper [2]. Der Bote means The Messenger and is a masculine noun (see http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bote) 79.117.188.107 (talk) 15:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 * "''[...] were killed for opposing robberies committed by Hungarians''". It sounds a bit strange, could you provide more details? Exactly what kind of robberies they were opposing for which they were executed?
 Thanks, [[User:Koertefa|<font color="DarkSlateGray">'''''K'''<font color="Teal">&oelig;rte</font>'''F'''</font><font color="Teal">a</font>]] [[User talk:Koertefa#top|<font color="DarkSlateGray">'''{'''<font color="Teal">''ταλκ''</font>'''}'''</font>]] 22:41, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
+== Correction needed ==
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+It is a mistake here. ''Die Siebenbürger Bote'' has to be changed to ''Der Siebenbürger Bote''.  ''Der Siebenbürger Bote'' was the real name of the newspaper [http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=dsb&datum=18470211&seite=1&zoom=33]. ''Der Bote'' means ''The Messenger'' and is a masculine noun (see http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bote) [[Special:Contributions/79.117.188.107|79.117.188.107]] ([[User talk:79.117.188.107|talk]]) 15:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)