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population figures

The population is very misleading. Chosunjok ( Korean with China passport) they account total 75-80 percent of total China passport population in Korea. Chosunjok, are not " Overseas Chinese". Korea " Overseas Chinese" population is less then 700,000 thousand. Whole information is very misleading. Please provide " Overseas Chinese" population in Korea. Last time I checked less then 20,000 thousand in South Korea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koreaaccount (talk • contribs) 13:53, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I adjusted population figures based on the article http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20060829/480100000020060829091233E3.html, of the 356,790 immigrants from the People's Republic of China, 219,000 are ethnic Koreans with PRC citizenship and are not ethnic Chinese. Additionally, it is possible to find a better estimate for the population of ethnic Chinese in North Korea, 181,000 seems like a pretty large estimate as the CIA Factbook estimates around 45,000 ethnic Chinese living in North Korea. Abstrakt 06:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. However, ethnic Chinese does not necessarily mean Han Chinese; it often refers to the supra-ethnic Chinese national identity (see Zhonghua Minzu). Various Chinese ethnic groups overseas may identify as part of the Chinese nation even if they're not of Han ethnicity; obviously this is heavily reliant on political context. Uyghurs and Tibetans tend not to, Hui people often do (but not always; see Panthay and Dungan people), as do Zhuang people. As for the population figures, pretty much everything on North Korea is a crapshoot; I put the 181k figure in because that was the only one I could find a source for at the time. I guess the US government's figures can be assumed to be more authoritative, but all population estimates from all sources should be at least discussed in the article. cab 08:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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searching 'hwagyo' auto-directs to this page. the term 'hwagyo', in korean, implies to those of chinese ethnicity that have permanently settled in korea (possibly for 2-3 generations or more). this page seems to group together all chinese people who happen to be in korea at the moment, when a good portion of them are either temporary employees under short term contract or international students. permanent settlers and temporary residents are two different groups of 'chinese people in korea' and there should be some note on the page to distinguish the two.

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 Hi I adjusted population figures based on the article http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20060829/480100000020060829091233E3.html, of the 356,790 immigrants from the People's Republic of China, 219,000 are ethnic Koreans with PRC citizenship and are not ethnic Chinese. Additionally, it is possible to find a better estimate for the population of ethnic Chinese in North Korea, 181,000 seems like a pretty large estimate as the CIA Factbook estimates around 45,000 ethnic Chinese living in North Korea. [[User:Abstrakt|Abstrakt]] 06:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 : Thanks. However, [[ethnic Chinese]] does not necessarily mean [[Han Chinese]]; it often refers to the supra-ethnic Chinese national identity (see [[Zhonghua Minzu]]). Various Chinese ethnic groups overseas may identify as part of the Chinese nation even if they're not of Han ethnicity; obviously this is heavily reliant on political context. [[Uyghurs]] and [[Tibetans]] tend not to, [[Hui people]] often do (but not always; see [[Panthay]] and [[Dungan people]]), as do [[Zhuang people]]. As for the population figures, pretty much everything on North Korea is a crapshoot; I put the 181k figure in because that was the only one I could find a source for at the time. I guess the US government's figures can be assumed to be more authoritative, but all population estimates from all sources should be at least discussed in the article. [[User:CaliforniaAliBaba|cab]] 08:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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+searching 'hwagyo' auto-directs to this page. the term 'hwagyo', in korean, implies to those of chinese ethnicity that have permanently settled in korea (possibly for 2-3 generations or more). this page seems to group together all chinese people who happen to be in korea at the moment, when a good portion of them are either temporary employees under short term contract or international students. permanent settlers and temporary residents are two different groups of 'chinese people in korea' and there should be some note on the page to distinguish the two.