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Why my edits are not appearing on the "view history"? I have fixed some false informations but I cannot see them on the article even on the "view history". Help please... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/212.174.135.250|212.174.135.250]] ([[User talk:212.174.135.250|talk]]) 08:46, 25 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Introduction is missing sources == |
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The whole introduction is missing sources. This is plain ridicilous for a controversial subject like this. For example: "Their lineage dates back to as early as 2400 BC, where they occupied the same lands as they do today." This looks like plain PKK propaganda. Since then many empires have controlled this area, including the Greek and Roman empire. Please state facts with reliable sources or somebody please replace this introduction with something more reliable and in line with science. |
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Split tag removed - no rationale given - and target article already exists (which is already quite long). If it is felt that the information here is too much, then perhaps some trimming would be appropriate and helpful. SilkTork *YES! 23:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Not being an expert on the matter (not by a long shot) and unwilling to barge in and mess up what might be a tenuous consensus, shouldn't there be any mention of the Kyrtioi in an article like this? Trigaranus (talk) 11:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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"Tent-dwellers"
While the ethnic names for Persians and Arabs were widely used and meant during medieval times in fact many kinds of ethnic groups collected under an umbrella term, the ethnic designator "Kurd" was not. The name "Kurd" was meant for the very same people that are today called Kurdish.
Now there are different opinions about this, and as a neutral encyclopedia, all the major ones of the theories based on reliable sources should be presented. I notice how only one single perspective on this subject is shown in this article.
The respected Middle Eastern-expert and Kurdologist prof. Mehrdad Izady attacks the false assumptions, based on lack of research, that the name "Kurd" was in fact a term meaning "Nomad". With his own original research, presented in the work "The Kurds: A Concise Handbook" he completely wipes this false image of some scholars, as he clearly states that that's not the case by naming a list of facts that point away from that direction.
Whatever the editors believe to be true, this is science and must be listed among the other theory in the article, if not replace it for good. Believing is something you do in Churches or Mosques - science is knowing. --Sekterlan (talk) 00:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'd challenge the idea that history is science - I don't think you'd find many if any historians agreeing with you. Nor can we suggest that Izady is right and everyone else is wrong, or that no one actually did the proper research until Izady. Izady's views should be represented, but your edit needs work. It also needs a page number. I also can't find the quote nor can I understand why you've used it. Dougweller (talk) 20:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Lack of historical ancestors in the table
Why aren't any of the Kurdish ancestors such as the Hurrians, the Medes or the Mannaeans listed in the puny table to the right?
It is pointless to argue that these were not Kurds, how much they weren't what the modern Kurds are today, the modern Kurds consists mainly of a mixture of the Medes and the Hurrians. Or do the editors here believe that the Medes and the Hurrians were kidnapped from the face of the earth by UFO:s? History shows that these ancient cultures live today in the Kurdish culture.
This article must be corrected! --Sekterlan (talk) 00:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Regarding meaning of Iran and Aryan
İf you go beyond meaning "Iran" and "Aryan" in the history you will reach the same result for both that is "Aryan". The thing is today if you say "Iran" it will come through your mind "The Islamic Republic of Iran" and Persian people only. Kurds may be Aryans but no Irani (Farsi) origin. Please careful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.101.123.184 (talk) 23:55, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
My edits...
Why my edits are not appearing on the "view history"? I have fixed some false informations but I cannot see them on the article even on the "view history". Help please... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.174.135.250 (talk) 08:46, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Introduction is missing sources
The whole introduction is missing sources. This is plain ridicilous for a controversial subject like this. For example: "Their lineage dates back to as early as 2400 BC, where they occupied the same lands as they do today." This looks like plain PKK propaganda. Since then many empires have controlled this area, including the Greek and Roman empire. Please state facts with reliable sources or somebody please replace this introduction with something more reliable and in line with science.