Talk:Mariano Rajoy

Irrelevant

Ah, yes, the mighty ganse of the sands; we have dismissed that claim.

Regional issues

Battle speech unmentioned. His speech was as follows: I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns. We are trained for espionage; we would be legends, but the records are sealed. Glory in battle is not our way. Think of our heroes; the Silent Step, who defeated a nation with a single shot. Or the Ever Alert, who kept armies at bay with hidden facts. These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are. Before the network, there was the fleet. Before diplomacy, there were soldiers! Our influence stopped Franco, but before that we held the line! Our influence stopped Felipe Gonzalez, but before that, we held the line! Our influence will stop Zapatero; in the battle today, we will hold the line!” Lies, lies, lies and more lies and this shit isn't "objective". For example, the "catalan statutory reform" was approved by the 75% of the voters.

EpC

Just to mention

• In Spain there are only two national PTA (AMPAs) confederation, CEAPA (secular), the biggest one, that supports EpC and CONCAPA (catholic) that is against EpC, most of the other remarkable organisations that are aginst EpC are affilated in one way or another to PP or the RACC.
• On the prospect of Political parties only take account of those in the Cortes, groups of friends dont count. There only PP opposes EpC.
• Please try to keep a NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zape82 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Small edits

I've noticed that somebody is capitalizing nouns that aren't proper nouns. It's a small thing but I thought it would be nice to correct.

• LocalGirl 02:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

<<the derogation of ambitious plans of the previous executive>> On another note this use of derogation looks like a poor translation from spanish to english. Derogar means revoke or abolish or scrap, but derogation is an exemption from or relaxation of a rule or law. Which sense was intended?

• LocalGirl 03:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

11th to 14th of March 2004

The three days between the terrorist attack and the general elections were very polemic. The way it is currently mentioned in the article is very similar to the accusations the Socialist Party has been making to Rajoy about his behaviour. Nevertheless Rajoy says his attitude was different, as he and the other members of the government communicated publicly information as it was being known, being actually the first ones to say the possibility that it was not ETA, that no one had announced their participation and that they doubted that ETA had the assets to make a killing 10 times bigger than their previous biggest one (Hipercor Barcelona). I therefore think that all this should be included in the article, eventually mentioning the polemic about it. Does anyone disagree? Escorial82 12:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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Surname

Why is he "Mariano Rajoy Brey" and not "Mariano Rajoy y Brey"? СЛУЖБА (talk) 07:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Everyone in Spain , when we´re born and registered , are named by our father´s surname AND mother´s surname . But , altough the name is registered as "FIRST and SECOND", anyone uses this form , because the AND is not a part of the surname , then the correct name would by FIRT SECOND, and we all have our ID in the correct way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.4.56.203 (talk) 12:53, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

The "y" is optional, and considered rather old-fashioned. Few people use it in Spain. See the article on Spanish naming customs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 10:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I changed "in a month's time" to "in mid-December 2011", as "in a month's time" will soon become out of date. The new Spanish Parliament will constitute itself on December 13, and a new government is expected to be formed before the Christmas vacation, according to La Vanguardia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

accusations in 2013

rajoy now is watched on 2 fronts.Recuperating the economy of spain and defending his personal past as he receives attacks from both the psoe party as well as his own party x minister of treasury.Im sure wikipedia will track him on both fronts.I hope wikipedia will be fair.Rajoy deserves a chance to do the job.And not to be boggled down in the mud of accusations revenge shots and unverifiable claims..murcia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.43.122.132 (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Removed Ideology section

Removed ideology section which was blatantly bias, and all sources led to opinion pieces or suspect far left websites, not vetted non-partisan news sites or academic studies. ♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 19:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You must be kidding, the references provided are valid (Example: Faro de Vigo: Mariano Rajoy: Igualdad humana y modelos de sociedad). --Jimbomedia (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't think he is kidding. Blog style campaign sites like losgenoves and an opinion piece where he is barely mentioned, not to mention dubious attempts to compare him to Adolf Hitler based on pure original research are very far from what we should be putting in a WP:BLP. Valenciano (talk) 17:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Trotona de Pontevedra & Franco "Paquita"

• Template:Es El Partido Popular difunde una carta alabando al dictador Francisco Franco (People's Party of Spain disseminated a letter praising the genocidal Francisco Franco)

Give your best shot.

With love, --87.218.77.74 (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

There's nothing to shoot at, since the target is too small to see. Valenciano (talk) 06:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Let me elaborate here. There are three relevant policies/guidelines in this situation. WP:BLP (we have to be careful what we accuse living people of) , WP:NOTNEWS (articles should give an overview, not cover every detail of a person's life and career) and WP:NPOV (articles need to be written without bias.)

So far all you've given us is a single news story, the scan of which is too small to provide any info. We can't read anything other than the headline. We don't even know the date or page number or what the newspaper is. So we can't judge whether it is a reliable source or not. So that raises too many questions before it can be included. What was the background and context to all this? Was it only reported locally and briefly or did the story gain lasting national attention? (If the former, then per WP:NOTNEWS, it's unlikely to be notable enough to include.) What was the content of the letter? Did the newspaper report those contents fairly and accurately? What did the letter praise Franco for? Was it something relatively innocuous like having a better transport policy or providing more financial support for fishermen? (I strongly doubt that they praised him for killing opponents so, per WP:NPOV, wording that they "praised the genocidal Francisco Franco" is not going to happen.) What was the PP response to all this? That would need to be included to provide balance.

Until all those questions are answered I'm afraid that for me, inclusion of that material is unacceptable. Also the purpose of this encyclopedia is to inform the readers, not to score political points and the title you've chosen for this section and the fact that you've made vandalistic changes like this and this elsewhere means it's much harder for me to accept good faith with you. Valenciano (talk) 11:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Elected?

Rajoy was not "elected" on 20 November 2011. He was appointed after his party won a parliamentary election. He is a PM, not a president.101.98.209.132 (talk) 19:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)