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The following sentence from the "Demographics" has a questionable reference: "the Gharagozloo, the latter whom are the indigenous population of Central Iran"
The following sentence from the "Demographics" has a questionable reference: "the Gharagozloo, the latter whom are the indigenous population of Central Iran"
The reference given is: http://www.ethnologue.com/language/azb
The reference given is: http://www.ethnologue.com/language/azb
This lists Qaragozlu as being an Azeri/Azerbaijani language but there is nothing to back up the assertion that they are "the indigenous population of Central Iran", which would imply they are the first known people to settle that land. If Turkic speakers have their origin in Central Asia, as is currently believed, then this is unlikely. Is it attested anywhere? I assert this line should be removed without any evidence being provided.
This lists Qaragozlu as being an Azeri/Azerbaijani language but there is nothing to back up the assertion that they are "the indigenous population of Central Iran", which would imply they are the first known people to settle that land. If Turkic speakers have their origin in Central Asia, as is currently believed, then this is unlikely. Is it attested anywhere? I assert this line should be removed in the absence of any evidence being provided.


Finally the use of "whom" is incorrect. In this context it should be "who".
Finally the use of "whom" is incorrect. In this context it should be "who".

Revision as of 00:35, 31 October 2015

Iranian Azerbaijanis is a misleading title - Self-designated 'Turk/Tork' identity should be added

The Turks, Azeri Turks, Azerbaijanis etc of Iran actually refer to themselves as Turks in Iran and non-Turks refer to us as Torks which is Persian for Turks. There is no mention of this in the introduction. We do not refer to ourselves as Azeri or Azerbaijanis in Iran in an ethnic sense. This should be changed to reflect the truth.

109.148.253.190 (talk) 12:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


The map is not reliable

This file Map of Azerbaijani-inhabited regions of Iran, according to a poll in 2010 has some problems in methodology of obtaining the data . In Persian Wikipedia we had discussion about it Reliable sources/Noticeboard in Persian Wikipedia and the outcome was not to use it in controversial articles as a reliable fact . It shows a very rough estimate of the big picture . I think we have to mention the weak point in footnote .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:49, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but how comes people can post a map without any link to its original page or any reference to the book or report it was taken from??? Is it serious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.132.137.184 (talk) 21:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Title same as the other ethnic groups

I want to suggest a new title, like " South Azeris people" or " Azeris in Iran". Titles like " British Scottish"," Belgians Flemish ", " Turkish Kurdish" or " Spanish catalan" have been never used in wikipedia. For example for page of kurdish people in Turkey, the title is "kurds in turkey" . JeyranAz (talk) 06:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is not such a thing as south Azerbaijan. Historically there has been only one Azerbaijan and it's the lands, which is parts of iranian territory. The country, which is called Azerbaijan today, originally and historically had been called Aran before the Stalin era. Diako «  Talk » 07:17, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do not misunderstand, I talk about the identity of specific ethnic group in 2014 not a historical name of the land. JeyranAz (talk) 13:07, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The reason that in the english wikipedia we don't have British Scottish or Belgian Flemish and so on is that the Scotch people live only in Britain and Flemish people live only in Belgian and Catalans live only in Spain. And the Turkish Kurdish is wrong because Turkish is an ethnic group itself, and we can't say Turkish Kurdish. Because of these two reasons, the title Iranian Azerbaidjanis is not comparable with the titles you mentioned. Because There's a country called Azerbaijan also and if we say Azerbaijanis it would be confused with the people of the country. The second reason is that the term Iranian is not an ethnic group. Iranian refers to the name of Iran, which is a country with different ethic groups. But I think the title Iranian Azeris would be acceptable. Diako «  Talk » 18:07, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I could not agree with you, Iranian is more confusing than the other nationalities , at least turkish people just refer to the turkic people in Turkey, but Iranian can be used as nationality or iranian people as an ethnic group who leave in Iran plateau from Kurdistan to Pakistan. So I believe that we should eliminate Iranian. My favorite title is " South Azeri People" which shows distinguish between Azeris who leave in Iran and in Azerbaijan, but for some politics problems, many people do not like to use it. Hence my suggestion is following the kurdish solution (kurds in turkey) and use " Azeris in Iran". JeyranAz (talk) 06:46, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to add that Iranian Azerbaijani is more relevant to the Taleshi and kurds peoples who leave in Azerbaijan. And Iranian Azeri was an ethnic group which was extinct many years ago and Kasravi wrote about them. JeyranAz (talk) 07:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference between new world and old world identities : Indeed Iranian statehood is older than Azeri ethnogenesis and that makes a dual identity more possible : a combination of ethnolingual entity with a national identity. Anyway the determining factor in choosing the title is the common usage in English language that is Iranian Azerbaijani .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 15:32, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2014

205.250.224.210 (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2014 (UTC) This article is written by a persian racist and is not true. In this article, the author is written his view which is fake and against Azerbaijani Turks and in whole article, it's obvious that he hates Azerbaijani Turks. As an Azerbaijani Turk, I request Wikipedia to remove this chouvinistic article.[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. if you see mistakes, kindly point them out. we're not about to delete an entire article based on one person's vague complaints. Cannolis (talk) 13:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

improvement of the pictures in the infobox

Some more women need to be added, its virtually only composed of men. Also, there are some notes that absolutely shouldn't be there. Naser ad-din Shah Qajar was one of the worst rulers of Iran. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2015

Remove this spam link. It's just an old and outdated copy-paste of The World Factbook. The updated version already used on article [1]. 188.159.143.223 (talk) 07:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done Mz7 (talk) 07:27, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strange use of numbers?

The second paragraph of the "Demographics" section reads: "Azeris have also immigrated and resettled in large numbers in Central Iran, mainly Tehran,[41] where they constitute 25%[42] — one-third of the population". A ten year old could tell you 25% is not the same as one third. Can we correct this? it challenges the credibility of the whole page. Abdul tom (talk) 00:27, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable reference in Demographics

The following sentence from the "Demographics" has a questionable reference: "the Gharagozloo, the latter whom are the indigenous population of Central Iran" The reference given is: http://www.ethnologue.com/language/azb This lists Qaragozlu as being an Azeri/Azerbaijani language but there is nothing to back up the assertion that they are "the indigenous population of Central Iran", which would imply they are the first known people to settle that land. If Turkic speakers have their origin in Central Asia, as is currently believed, then this is unlikely. Is it attested anywhere? I assert this line should be removed in the absence of any evidence being provided.

Finally the use of "whom" is incorrect. In this context it should be "who". Abdul tom (talk) 00:34, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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