User talk:Jagtig

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Education

John Sebastian deGrazia (sometimes spelled DeGrazia and diGrazia) was born in Providence, Rhode Island June 29, 1951 and is the son of Alfred Joseph deGrazia of Chicago, Illinois, and Bertha Oppenheim of New York City, New York. His primary education was in the Princeton Public Schools of Princeton, New Jersey and Florence, Italy, and then at Rutgers and New York University. He is the author of several novels, some historical and some humorous. He is a web developer now living in Princeton, New Jersey and currently engaged in the creation of a physical therapy internet site for wide use. His uncle Sebastian deGrazia was the Pulitzer Prize winning Political Philosopher, and his father Alfred deGrazia was the author of numerous works on American Government and a Holocaust witness.

Role

The following statement is made concerning he and his father's roles as Holocaust witnesses: "While studying at NYU, I used my father's office to rest in and avoid the commute back to Princeton. The filing cabinets attracted my attention, though I knew nothing at the time of the "Holocaust deniers" movement that is now a well-known and wide-spread political phenomenon. While going through a drawer picked at random, I read a letter from my father to my mother, and then moved on. A little ways away, I plucked a photograph of WWII vintage from the file. It was of my father standing in front of a pile starved bodies about seven feet high. The bodies were gruesome and stacked like cord wood. I later learned that this photo was taken in the Buchenwald Concentration (KZ) Camp, and that he had been ordered in by General Patton to witness the atrocities. My father also took my brother and myself on a tour of Africa and Europe that literally followed the route the American Army took in 1941 to 1944. At no time in my entire contact with my father then, before or after did he say he was a propagandist. He only said that he was a scout, and his rank was Captain of Intelligence, and this was borne out by what I found out in Sicily, where my grandfather Master Conductor Alfred Joseph diGrazia was from and what I did in imitation of him afterwards. I found in Sicily books kept by his aunt Sister Immaculate diGrazia of Licodia Eubea, a Dominican nun and school teacher, that had been sent him during the war that included a technical work on camping, scouting and living like the Indians of North America. Sister diGrazia still had a can condensed sweetened milk given the Sicilians by American troops during WWII and opened a can for us."
"As for what I did in imitation, I have posted an entire report, now quite outdated, made by me through driving a jeep like my father and scouting in imitation of him. I had no training and all was done through having been Alfred deGrazia's son."

http://princetonweb.org/fbi.pdf

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (How do you add to your talk page without triggering the speedy deletion message. I want to use it as a forum, or comment page.) --Jagtig (talk) 13:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (This is my user:Jagtig talk page) --Jagtig (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User claiming defamatory material about an heir on Wikipedia and Commons. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 20:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Alfred de Grazia. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. BMK (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

• Please do not edit war, establish your case on the talk page and get a WP:CONSENSUS. BMK (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, new comments go at the bottom of a talk page, and comments should be kept threaded when it is relevant. I have moved your last post to the thread I started about the photograph. You can find it at the bottom of Talk:Alfred de Grazia BMK (talk) 19:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, please "sign" your comments by putting four tildes (i.e. ~~~~) at the end of your comment. The system wil automatically add your name and a time/date stamp. Thanks. BMK (talk) 19:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Disruption

Look, I know you feel strongly about this, but you've kind of entered "bull in a china shop" territory. You're edit warring (although hopefully that has stopped); you're posting things to people's user pages (not their talk page); you're posting things in random places on their talk pages (instead of in the appropriate section); you're posting the same thing several times on the article talk page in random locations; and you are not addressing the questions people are asking you. This approach has to stop; new or not, I'm going to have to block you from editing if you don't slow down, and address the things people are saying to you, instead of saying the same thing over and over without replying to people's replies to you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

You just posted to the user page (instead of the talk page) again. I've moved it for you. Please pay more attention or I am going to block you for disruption. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:44, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

I've moved your post to Floquenbeam to User_talk:Floquenbeam#User_page_vs._user_talk_page and explained a bit more about what he meant; you might want to check it out. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:57, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Your dispute resolution case has been filed, but has been closed as you seem to be Fourm Shopping, any further attempted disscussions will be closed. If you think this was a mistake, you can leave a message here. RMS52 ^{Talk to me} 06:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Legal threat

Jagtig, you have just made a threat of legal action on Talk:Alfred de Grazia, which is within your rights to do, however you cannot continue to edit Wikipedia while you are threatening to take legal action against it. Please read this policy page WP:NLT and read it carefully. I suggest that you withdraw the threat of legal action, if you wish to continue editing here. BMK (talk) 20:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Please let me try to clarify some things for you

• Commons hosts free and properly licensed photographs only. They do not accept non-free content which is not licensed by the copyright holder.
• If you do not own the copyright to File:Alfred de Grazia.jpg then you cannot make representations to the Commons OTRS team that you do.
• Only the copyright holder, whoever that may be, can contact Commons OTRS and provide proof of copyright ownership as well as permission for the file to be on Commons with an acceptable license.
• English Wikipedia, however, will under a strict set of circumstances, accept non-free copyrighted images.
• You can read our policies about non-free content use at WP:NFC
• If you think the photograph of your father that you wish to upload, which you cropped from the picture on the back of one of his books, is acceptable under NFCC rules, then you can try uploading it here on English Wikipeda, not on Wikipedia Commons, which is a separate but associated site.
• To upload it here, go to WP:File Upload Wizard and click on the "File for Upload Wizard" link on the right side of the box, under "Wikipedia"
• When you upload it, it must be accompanied by a non-free use rationale, such as the one you'll find at Template:Non-free use rationale. Cut and paste it into the upload form and fill it out, just as you did when you erroneously uploaded the photograph to Commons
• If you run into problems, you might want to ask someone at WP:WikiProject Fair use for help.
• For your information, I have nominated for deletion at Commons the image that you mistakenly uploaded there.

BMK (talk) 22:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• I thought about it, and thought it would just be easier if I uploaded it myself. I've added the image File:Velikovsky and de Grazia.jpg to the article, under a non-free fair use book cover license. This doesn;t mean that someone won't ask for it to be deleted, but I think it's a legitimate upload. BMK (talk) 23:35, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

September 2015

Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to Talk: Alfred de Grazia while logged out. Making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of more than one account or IP address by one person. If this was not your intention, then please always remember to log in when editing. You have been alternately editing various pages, including Talk:Alfred de Grazia and WP:DRN, with a user ID and with an IP address. This may be unintentional, but it gives the appearance of sockpuppetry, especially since you have been warned for edit-warring and legal threats, in which case it may appear to be block evasion Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

December 2015

This case is closed; the offending and possibly erroneously titled or captioned picture appears to have been removed permanently. As for the allegations above, I work at a library, and therefore my IP is the library's. The page is protected, now and at the time of the allegation, so I could not have accessed it, anyway. What I say on the talk page is only in support of my claims, which apparently were seen as legitimate by others, as well.