Talk:Hellraiser

Citations for reception paragraph

The Reception paragraph needs citations: Stephen King's "I have seen the future..." quote appears in Stephen King's introduction to the "Clive Barker's Shadows In Eden" book edited by Stephen Jones [1] but I can't cite it without seeing a hard copy of the book. Note that Stephen is not responding to the Hellraiser movie, but Barker as an author in general so another review is needed. The box office gross figure is from Box Office Mojo [2] Can someone please add this citation in? Any diehard fans have British sources "championing" the film? 123.243.236.11 (talk) 05:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Bloodline

Bloodline was NOT direct to video, it was the franchises last entry to go to cinemas. I hope to help out working on this section, I have huge ammounts of information which can be found on ym website www.cenobite.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScarecrowX (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 November 2005

- ScarecrowX

—Preceding unsigned comment added by ScarecrowX (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 November 2005

How sure are we about Hellraiser: Bloodline (1996) being straight to video? I would swear that's the only one I ever saw in the theaters. The timing is about right. It was one seen from the viewpoint of the future, aboard a spaceship, and had lots of flashbacks to 18th century scenes. I don't remember much in the way of details, though. But if that is the one, it certainly was not straight to video. -- John Owens 09:53 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)

You could be right. As far as I can tell the Alan Smithee Hellraiser: Bloodline had a US cinema release in March 1996 through Miramax/Dimension, it earned a poor $16 million. It went to video in November in the US and was a video only release in the rest of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.253.64.7 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 10 April 2003

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There was also a short-lived run of Hellraiser comic books that were (at least in the beginning) overseen (but only to a small extent) by Clive Barker. Actually, they weren't that bad...although some of the stories took massive liberty with the accepted canon of the mythos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.156.242.36 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 11 April 2003

rejected coil soundtrack -- relevant?

Just wondering if mention of the original soundtrack by Coil (ultimately rejected by the studio) for the first Hellraiser would be proper encyclopedic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.120.157.189 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 27 November 2004

Yes, but only as part of a discussion of the music used in this film or in the series. Simply throwing in a statement to the effect that Coil composed a soundtrack that was rejected would be somewhat irrelevant unless more details about soundtracks is included. Canonblack 01:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I've added a Soundtrack section that's mostly on the rejected Coil soundtrack, but which has a bit on Christopher Young's score for the first two Hellraiser movies. As Coil's rejected soundtrack has been commercially released at least twice, it seemed appropriate to address the subject. --Pearce.duncan 03:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

"Deader" and "Hellworld" both need an NPOV check badly, as they're over half unsourced opinion. --InShaneee 09:09, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Seperating Articles

I am going to attempt to create seperate articles for each movie in this article. I feel, especially with the template for the first movie, that the rest do not belong on this page. They would be better off with their own page. PlasticMan 01:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

The Psychology of Hellraiser

Pinhead is a very knowledgable villian in the Hellraiser series. He has his Cenobites and this box of hell. But why is his reason for bringing such pain to these innocent people? He was in a mental institution and he was too much for them, they killed him and now he is on a rampage. It doesn't have much thought in the storyline. Thumbs way down to Hellraiser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charming Derick 1428 (talk • contribs) 02:03, 22 January 2006

Huh? --Myles Long/cDc 02:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't ask us. You're the one who formatted the comment. This isn't a fan message board or a blog for your personal opinions about the characters, this is a space to discuss the article. Please restrict your comments to the article, and to verifiable facts. Canonblack 01:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, yes, I was the one who formatted the comment. I wasn't the one who left the comment in the first place, though, as is shown by this page's history (I've corrected the "unsigned" tag to note that). So, my question about the comment stands: "Huh?" --Myles Long 00:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Remove the quotes?

I think the "Quotes from Hellraiser" section should be removed. It strikes me as terribly unencyclopedic. It lends nothing to the user's understanding of the film or its legacy. This isn't a fan trivia site or a movie quote database. We're already linking to IMDB, where most of these quotes can already be found. Lastly, I think that some of these quotes aren't even from this film, but from one of the sequels. Anybody agree, disagree, feel motivated to violent protest? Canonblack 22:46, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Agree. --Myles Long 00:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Agree. The quotes are from more than one of the sequels - there's stuff from Hellbound and Hell On Earth in there. --Pearce.duncan 03:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, I think "Pinhead: "Hell is the sound of razors going through flesh. I'm just here to turn up the volume."" from HOE is wrong. It's something like "There's a secret sound at the heart of the world and it's razors through flesh. It's always been there, I'm just here to turn up the volume." --68.232.64.116 21:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, i’m bold and remove the section. None of the quotes provides any deeper understanding of the film. They are just sort of a subjective list of favoured sayings. Nice stuff for a fan page – but not at all encyclopaedic. --Zinnmann 14:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Plus I beleive that is what WikiQuote is for. Master Redyva 01:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Comic adaptations

They are mentioned on the Clive Barker entry and I was just expanding the entry for SMS and noticed the lack of an entry. The info is out there [3] and you could have something like:

Hellraiser series:

• Book 6
  • Original sin (writer: Ron Wolfe, artist: SMS)

etc. Thoughts?

Clive Barker's credits

I've edited the section on Barker's involvement in the sequels. He was a credited executive producer on the fourth movie as well as the second and third. Also, the earlier entry said that he had writing credit on the subsequent movies, which implies that he had a hand in their stories or screenplays. In truth he only had character creation credit. This confusion might come from that fact that the IMDb lumps character creation under the "writing" category. --Pearce.duncan 03:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Clive not yet confirmed as a PRODUCER for the Hellraiser remake

Although he has confirmed himself as a writer, I have not found a corroborating statement to support the implication that Clive is already a member of the production team for the remake. On his Oct 20th interview with Revelations, he confirmed his DISinterest in being a director, but asserted his interest in being a producer.

Hellraiser Portal

Why is there not a portal for the Hellraiser franchise (incorporating the novella, comics, etc...) ? I have read that Barker is writing the story only but the directors will be writing the script, and the script will differ from the original written story. See : http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/inside-directors-speak-on-hellraiser/ (^ Blake. "Inside Directors Speak on Hellraiser", TwitchFilm, 2007-10-13. Retrieved on 2007-10-13). Long Live the box, & rememeber "The box, you opened it, we came. Now you must come with us, taste our pleasures." (Hellraiser) Master Redyva 01:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Who killed the strange men?

Under the plot summary, it says Julia incapacitates them with a hammer, then Frank drains their blood. But under differences from novel, it says the way in which Julia kills the victims is different. Well, obviously the third one survived Julia's attack, since he lived for a few seconds after Frank drained his blood, but that first guy looked as though he was dead when she hit him with the hammer. 24.65.118.20 (talk) 03:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Christopher Figg

There is a new article created for Christopher Figg. I know nothing about him, so I was wondering if anyone would like to wander over and expand on the article? Cheers! Stephen! ^Coming... 17:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Um... wrong use of "domestic"

"It grossed $14,564,000 domestically, as well as £763,412 in the UK and around £300,000 in Germany. "

If the film is British, then what it made in the UK is what it made domestically. Iamrockyroad (talk) 12:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Unsourced Material

Please note that IMDb is not a reliable source for this sort of information. Feel free to reincorporate into the article with appropriate sourcing. Thanks. Doniago (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Mexico or Morocco

In the first sentence of the plot it states the box is bought somerwhere in Mexico. But judging by the peoples looks in the background and the fact that the main players are drinking mint tea I would think it is in Morocco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M Hendriks (talk • contribs) 12:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

In what city does Frank obtain the box?

Wikipedia user 66.170.204.148 claims that Barker and the script mention Morocco. The only scripts I've seen (dailyscript.com) don't even appear to have the beginning sequence at all, and certainly there is no mention of Morocco. His edits are good, but I'm looking for the source.

We hear the Islamic call to prayer in the background. We see a Turkish style tea glass. He see a man wearing a fez. We also see American dollars. The extras appear as though they are from the Arab world. The merchant sounds like he has a Chinese accent. But why Morocco and not Algeria, Tunisia, or even Egypt? Am I missing something?

I don't think you could set it OUTSIDE of the Arab world (not Mexico), but I'm not convinced it's Morocco necessarily. Why not just use the :term "Arab city", or "in the Middle East"? Sethwarncke (talk) 22:18, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

If you listen carefully, there are people speaking Turkish in the background. "Lahmacun geldi, sıcak sıcak." says someone. So I would assume it's in Turkey. Don't know the exact city though.

Instructions to not add anything to plot?

I just noticed that when you go to edit the plot, it says:

PER WIKIPEDIA'S GUIDELINES AND POLICIES REGARDING PLOTS FOR FILMS, PLEASE DO NOT ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO THIS PLOT. PLOTS ARE NOT SUBSTITUTIONS FOR WATCHING THE FILM. THANK YOU.

I'm familiar with the normal policy about the 400-700 word suggested range, unnecessary detail, bla bla bla, but where does policy say an editor can't add something productive to a plot? I noticed that it currently sits at 666 words, hmmm.

If a warning is needed, shouldn't it ask editors to avoid too much detail or something like that, instead of saying not to add anything at all?Capuchinpilates (talk) 02:29, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm thinking it's to avoid the annoying heartache of WP:fancruft.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Even so, there was no reason for the blunt and somewhat inaccurate warning. I've attempted to make it a bit nicer and more clear. DonIago (talk) 05:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Looks good to me. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Production Section

There is a lot of information on the film's production section that can be found in the wikipiedia article for the character Pinhead. Some of this information including information on the character's design, casting and such can be added from the article on the character Pinhead and into this article.--Paleface Jack (talk) 18:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)