Talk:Noyon

If Nyon was sold to France in the 1559 then John Calvin wasn't born in France

Why is John Calvin even described as French?

- NOT even born in France at the time.

- mayhap more influenced by the (nearby to Nyon) English College Douai/Doway in Flanders than whatever was officially France at the time.

- Spent more of his life in Switzerland.

- mayhap spoke better Latin and more often so than French.

- at best could be described as something life 'Latin, Romandy and French-speaking' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.68.32.34 (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Jean Calvin as a reformist instroduced the use of French instead of Latin for the church. It is one of the basis of the reformist current. So saying that he spoke better Latin than French is very consterning. He wrote in French, and spent his life in French speaking area. And at that time if you really want to be precise, Geneva was not in Switzerland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.164.2 (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

"And at that time if you really want to be precise, Geneva was not in Switzerland"'''

LOL you make it sound like being 'precise' with facts is a bad thing. Telling.

"Jean Calvin as a reformist instroduced the use of French instead of Latin for the church" No he didn't it was that Flemish geezer from Stapals

spent his life in French speaking area At no time did John Calvin spend his life in a French speaking area. John Calvin's native tongue was something like Picard NOT French. The minority French speaking bits of both Belgium and Switzerland are such a modern happening that the Frenchification is still ongoing as we speak. Geneva was not French speaking but Arpitan or Romand speaking - further buffered from the French language area by the Occitan language. PS French has historically worked like the poorman's Latin within Clerken circles across Europe, or maybe therefore, being a Latinspeaker, Martin Luther was an Italiano? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.223.127.247 (talk) 09:21, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

of course.. And the books that he wrote in French are fakes, the laws and edits written in Geneva in French at the time are also false... In fact there is a conspiracy tailored to your attention the rewrite the history. And Vaugelas that was born in 1585 near Geneva, the father of the present day grammar was not French speaking, but Arpitan 🙃. And thanks to you we are all gonna have the right version of history directly from the UK. But a minute, the queen does sign all laws with the words "le Roy le veult", and behind Westminster, the statue of Richard lion heart is in French also... But I don't see any monument written n English in Calais. But that is another conspiracy.. Like the "English Flanders" that you are able to bring to the light, against all the historians that are manipulating the facts. Noyon, Gap, were never been in France... Maybe you should open a real book and learn how the French kingdom was functioning with the King and its vassals states. You have a serious issue with French, maybe bad notes at school, or a French girl broke your heart, and you still can't cope with it. But if you still pursue in that direction, that would lead to an edit blockage.--Gabriel HM (talk) 15:47, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not think your French/Latin overemotionalness is helping, lets stick to the evidence - this is taken from an 1975 biography by T.H.L Parker, hight: John Calvin: A Biography "At Paris the nations (composed only of art students) had been four - French, Norman, Picard and English. Jean Cauvin had, of course, belonged to the Picard"

I'm not picking on you or bullying French nationalism but look here, even Frenchmen and writings at the time did not think John Calvin was French: "the change of a letter in Calvin's name is very inconsiderable...authors call that in Latin, Calvus, which the Picards call Cauve, and the Frenchmen Chauve..." Defense de Calvin, par Drelincourt, p. 202_

Come on man, be bigger than a petty French nationalist. Imagine u had an freethinking mind and went on to unearthed the foregoing two bits of evidence - don't u think it healthy or at least understandable that whether John Calvin was French or even born in France makes this talkpage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.219.248.118 (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Everyone is able to guest who has an obsession about the origin of Calvin. And Picard is a French dialect. Back at the time, in the French kingdom almost nobody was speaking the standard French, like in Germany where everybody was speaking a Germanic dialect. You are misleading the readers by playing with the facts. And for your information a language or dialect spoken does not have a direct link with the nationality. You definitely have a serious issue with France, but WP is not designed to fulfill your hate.--Gabriel HM (talk) 23:41, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Plagiarism

The sentence, "Having been ravaged by Habsburg troops in 1552, Noyon was sold to France in 1559, under the conditions of the Treaty of Cateau-Cambrésis.", has been copy and pasted from The Retreat from Mons 1914: South: The Western Front by Car, by bike and on Foot, by Jon Cooksey, Jerry Murland, page 73. This book is not a reliable source, neither authors are historians, simply popular writers of military history. As such this sentence will be deleted. --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

"This book is not a reliable source, neither authors are historians, simply popular writers of military history"

lol you've undone your own weak argument! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.121.254.236 (talk) 15:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

LOL. If you restore that plagiarized sentence again, I will report you to an Admin. --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:48, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

NO YOU'RE GOING TO REPORT ME TO ADMIN COZ YOUR FRUSTRATED THAT THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE SHOWS JOHN CALVIN WAS NOT BORN IN FRANCE AND HIS HOME TOWN WAS SOLD TO FRANCE IN 1559 HAS SET IN BOTH THE JOHN CALVIN WIKI, NOYON WIKI AND TREATY OF Treaty of (or Peace of) Cateau-Cambrésis WIKI, PLUS A GOOGLEBOOKS LINK CRAMMED WITH REFERENCES. GO AHEAD, IF YOU THINK HISTORIANS PULLED IT ALL OUT THEIR ARSES. BTW, PLEASE STOP WITH THE THREATS, WE KNOW YOUR GAME, UR JUST TRYING TO ENGINEER SOME PETTY BEEF SO YOU CAN GET ME CENSORED FROM COMMENTING ON WIKI PAGES. UNCLE SAM MUST BE PROUD ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.121.254.236 (talk) 07:21, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

You have presented no evidence, only your personal opinion. As I have said, neither Jon Cooksey or Jerry Murland are historians, merely writers. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:19, 29 October 2015 (UTC)