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Mārcis Zembergs

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mārcis Zembergs Joeykai (talk) 03:07, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Tom Squires

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Squires Joeykai (talk) 07:16, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Sam Roberts

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Roberts (ice hockey) Joeykai (talk) 17:19, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

ECHL

Over the years we have had several people attempt to, without references, call the ECHL a 'AA' league. It is not, unless hockey started classifying minor leagues as baseball does and I have missed it. An IP did this twice at the article which i have reverted, and then magically a new user showed up and did it again and then is going to ECHL team pages and doing the same thing. I request a few eyes on this, thanks. Dbrodbeck (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

While hockey in general doesn't use such a classification, the ECHL does refer to itself as the "Premier 'AA' Hockey League" right on its website. That may be part of the issue with this. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I think that is what causes it. Oh and I am the premiere NHL 16 xbox one player in the whole world. Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:56, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I've never been opposed to a statement along the lines of "Despite the fact that hockey has never attempted any organized system of baseball-style classifications for minor leagues, the ECHL describes itself in its literature as 'the Premier 'AA' Hockey League.'" That much is accurate. I remain relentlessly opposed to minor league marketing departments stating the same as an objective fact. Ravenswing 05:18, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Definitely seems like the best way to go about it. Note the ECHL uses that phrase, but hockey in general doesn't. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:40, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Auston Matthews birthplace

IHDB and elite prospects list him as being born in Scottsdale, however ESPN disagrees. This article states that, "Auston was actually born in the San Francisco Bay area, but two months later the family was in Arizona". I was hoping someone would have something more specific as a place of birth, and additional documentation to disagree with online databases.18abruce (talk) 03:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Well the ESPN article is the first that's come up, and considering the NHL has had several articles on him being born in Arizona, it seems suspicious that it only comes out now that he isn't actually from Arizona. I'd go with the majority now, and unless others back ESPN's claim, I'd be skeptical of it. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:39, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Heads Up

SNIyer12 has reappeared in the last three days. This time they went after a bunch of New Jersey Devils season articles, I've reverted anything that looked suspicious from 1995-96 to present. Deadman137 (talk) 04:50, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

I think we need to put this at the SPI page for him, so we maybe can valet a range clock for a bit until he gets the clue that he's not welcome here. (Though for some reason I doubt he'll ever get that clue) oknazevad (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I generally play wack a mole with him. I could range block, but I would hate to have collateral damage for him. His edits aren't bad enough that I necessarily want to risk turning away other good editors because of them. But if I have to block many more IPs I will possibly go that route. -DJSasso (talk) 15:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

SNIyer12 is very aware that he's not welcomed here. He simply doesn't care about it & continues to go forward. GoodDay (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Hockey team colors

Hey, hockey fans. The college sports projects have made a significant effort to get control over the team colors that are imported into the various infoboxes, navboxes and other templates used for college sports teams, coaches, athletes, etc. Over the last several years, we have experienced a series of vandals, sockpuppets and other odd users who were fixated on team colors. As we have tied college team colors into a centralized team colors module with increased requirements for reliable sourcing, we have seen a reduction in problems. That said, I have noticed one or more editors who have been taking an unusual interest in hockey team colors. Are there any experienced and trusted members of WP:HOCKEY who regularly monitor the teams colors used in hockey infoboxes, navboxes and other templates? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 07:07, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

NHL players

I have noticed that in the infoboxes a lot of NHL players only have NHL clubs listed in the "played for" section. Can we please rectify this? I see no reason why NHL > rest of the world, a career in the KHL or Elitserien is just as important as any NHL career.Abcmaxx (talk) 22:15, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

• I understand what you were saying but the NHL most definitely > the rest of the world and an NHL career is more significant than a career in any other league. 24.137.115.238 (talk) 03:57, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
• Or the AHL, or major junior ... Ravenswing 23:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

List of NHL statistical leaders

I had to make a major revert of that article, all the way back to October 7, 2015. Many editors & IPs had been updating it since that time, which is frowned upon during a season-in-progress. GoodDay (talk) 21:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Looks like the page may need semi-protection. GoodDay (talk) 01:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Ice hockey or just hockey?

I'm not involved in this project and am not familiar with wiki's various guidelines and whatnot, but I think there's an argument to change the titles/content of all hockey articles from ice hockey to hockey. The term "ice hockey" is only used by people in countries where the sport is not well-known. I will almost guarantee that no hockey fan in North America says ice hockey, and if there are any they came from countries not familiar with the sport. I've been a diehard hockey fan for more than 20 years and I've never, ever seen any person involved in the hockey world, or a fan, use that term. It's simply hockey. I get that the "ice hockey" label is used to avoid confusion with other sports like field hockey (which is an entirely separate sport with little resemblance to hockey and really should be called something else). But in the countries where hockey is popular and there are high-calibre leagues, the term simply is not used. The only significant leagues in North America or Europe that have ice in the name are the EIHL in England, a country where the sport isn't popular and is little-known for most people, and the DEL in Germany (Deutsche Eishockey Liga). Germany is also not a major hockey country. It would be considered a second or third-tier country in terms of hockey popularity, international success, and league quality (behind Canada, USA, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Switzerland, maybe more). Of the dozens and dozens of leagues in Canada and the US, not a single one has ice in the name. Of the biggest leagues in Europe (KHL, SHL, sm-liiga, Czech Extraliga, Slovak Extraliga, National League A), none have ice in the title. (the DEL and NLA would be considered about on par with each other but the first four listed above are better calibre/more known/more successful)

Yes, the governing body is the International Ice Hockey Federation but that again is used to avoid confusion by non-hockey fans. On their very own website they don't refer to their tournaments as the World Ice Hockey Championship or the World Junior Ice Hockey Championship or whatever.

I understand there is likely a strong desire to keep this label to avoid confusing anyone who doesn't know about hockey, but honestly what is the likelihood of any of those people reading hockey articles? I'm guessing there is a 99.9% chance this proposal will be shot down with very little discussion because, no offence to anyone in particular, but wiki is generally way too anal and literal. I'm just saying in the vast, vast, vast majority of the hockey world, "ice hockey" is never used and most of the people in the hockey world would agree with me on this. 24.137.115.238 (talk) 04:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)