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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. None of the current sources cover the company in any depth, especially enough to write a reliable article on the topic. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. If someone finds more (non-English and offline) sources, please {{ping}} me. czar 15:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. czar 15:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. czar 15:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: * Keep Incase if you have not noticed reference #6 http://jets.iti.gov.eg/newsDetailView/4385 is a very reliable source especially when it's from an egyptian government website. i mean what reference can be more legit. anyway i contacted the company and they seem happy to cooperate Aelpop (talk) 02:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Dear Czar thanks alot for review efforts, this is ahmed fawzy ceo and founder of the company, sorry for any conflict, our game studio is officially recorded @ government, and we have any official papers required for that, we have been also listed on http://www.gamedevmap.com under egypt which is very trusted website for listing official game studios arround the world they also checked official records. If you need any extra official proves such as our studio contracts and governmental papers scan let me know please to send or include as references and I will do with pleasure, you can also make sure our official website is made by me by checking who is angamesstudio.com and you have my official email on my account profile. Thanks a lot mate Engineer.Ahmed.Fawzy (talk) 03:24, 7 February 2016 (UTC) — Engineer.Ahmed.Fawzy (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

(I didn't get your ping—they only send when you sign your post (with four tildes) in the same edit.) The reliable sources guideline has more about what constitutes a reliable source—we don't need official government sources or really popular pages, but news outlets with a reputation for reliability and fact-checking who cover the topic in depth. This is to say that it's not really about cooperation but the type of available sources. We have examples of some such sources at WP:VG/RS, but I've already searched them for your company and didn't find anything. While we're on the subject, please do keep the COI guidelines in mind when editing. We ask editors with financial affiliations to declare their interest on the article's talk page. czar 15:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: Thanks for being a good guide. i think the only reason you didn't find anything that the game industry in egypt are just getting started and this something happened years ago globally in other countries. so it won't get the global attention. but the event was a big impact of of course in egypt and was mentioned all over the egyptian media as it appears for example in reference #7 http://egypttoday.com/blog/2013/12/11/apps-that-make-a-difference. this will be the history of the game industry in egypt. which is so important to record at the moment. Aelpop (talk) 19:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That may indeed be the case, but WP is a tertiary source that collects reliable, secondary sources on topics. So when a topic such as this does not have significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources (?), we have to wait until it does to give it a dedicated article. If, on the other hand, there are enough sources for an article on the Egyptian video game industry, that could be an option, but unless you're able to dig up lots of reliable Egyptian newspaper coverage dedicated to this developer in specific, there likely isn't enough verifiable content to write a full article. czar 19:57, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now at best as none of the current article suggests convincing notability yet. SwisterTwister talk 22:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think i can dig up more sources and refrences to cover an article about Egyptian video game industry and how it evovled. Aelpop (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New source from the news i found while digging for the developer http://www.masrdotbokra.com/Story_Details.aspx?StoryID=1013 and a google translation for the page because it's in arabic https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.masrdotbokra.com%2FStory_Details.aspx%3FStoryID%3D1013&edit-text= . and i'm working right now to dig up offline source from the newspapers. Aelpop (talk) 16:27, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New (non-English and offline) source it's a screenshot of one of the egyptian newspapers which wrote about the event. i grabbed it from the facebook account of the journalist who wrote the article Nancy Fares https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1059921980699943&set=a.275575142467968.85912.100000464520907&type=3&theater. i will include all the new sources in the article as soon as possible and i will keep digging for more. Aelpop (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that the page with "ahmed fawzy" in the byline was posted by the other editor in this thread (and it reads like a press release). I don't have any indication about the quality or content of that newspaper photo. czar 14:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

in 2015 "an games studio" participated in global game jam, and helped game developers by forming a team form juniors under lead of senior ahmed fawzy, made a game called "What do we do now? (The end of the world)", here is the link of participation account http://globalgamejam.org/users/engahmedfawzy where an games website is mentioned, and link to the game and team formed here http://globalgamejam.org/2015/games/what-do-we-do-now-end-world global game jam is very popular around the world and reliable source

@Engineer.Ahmed.Fawzy: you don't need to put keep on every reply , it's not a vote , this is just a discussion and opinion clarification. and don't forget to sign your posts on this page by adding 4 tilde symbols at the end. about your source nice work but i think news is prefered so focus on news and keep up the good work.feel free to contribute to help improve the article. i recommend you The Wikipedia Adventure to get the basics of editing and writing articles on wikipedia. cheers everybody. Aelpop (talk) 13:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Aelpop: ok removed

More for game development history in egypt , minister Atef_Helmy in global game jam 2015 in egypt discuss with AN Games Studio what we do and future of game development https://www.facebook.com/AN.Games.Studio/photos/pb.399729550132545.-2207520000.1455029479./645688855536612/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/AN.Games.Studio/photos/pb.399729550132545.-2207520000.1455029479./645688825536615/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/AN.Games.Studio/photos/pb.399729550132545.-2207520000.1455029479./645688788869952/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/AN.Games.Studio/photos/pb.399729550132545.-2207520000.1455029479./645688772203287/?type=3&theater Engineer.Ahmed.Fawzy (talk) 15:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

those are great photos which prove your strong presence in the game development scene in egypt and can light up the article. may i have your permission to add one of them to the article mr ahmed ? Aelpop (talk) 15:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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	those are great photos which prove your strong presence in the game ~~develpment~~ scene in egypt and can light up the article. may i have your ~~permision~~ to add one of them to the article mr ahmed ? [[User:Aelpop\|Aelpop]] ([[User talk:Aelpop\|talk]]) 15:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)		those are great photos which prove your strong presence in the game development scene in egypt and can light up the article. may i have your permission to add one of them to the article mr ahmed ? [[User:Aelpop\|Aelpop]] ([[User talk:Aelpop\|talk]]) 15:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)