User talk:B

Orphaned non-free image File:West Island College

Hi, there you recently talked to me about the image mentioned above see here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jackery01#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:West_Island_College_Logo.jpg) now I am unsure why, but my attempt to add this photo to the article West Island College did not exactly work. As you can see in the first infobox at the top it just says File:West_Island_College_Logo.jpg. Let me know how I can fix this and I will! Many thanks...

File:Chris Mercer.jpg

This file is tagged as FFD, but your bot repeatedly has tagged it as orphaned. Will you prevent your bot from tagging ones with current FFD discussions? --George Ho (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

@George Ho: The technical means exist for me to do that, but why should current FFD discussions be excluded from being deleted as an orphaned image? If there is a reason to summarily delete an image, then that should supersede a deletion discussion anyway. If you want to have a discussion about which of several non-free images to use, that discussion can be held by linking to the source website(s) where the image(s) can be found, rather than uploading both images here and leaving one orphaned. So I'm not saying no - but I think there should be a discussion at WT:FFD endorsing the change - I'm just having trouble envisioning a reason that we shouldn't delete a non-free image that remains orphaned. --B (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

@George Ho: Side note: even without me making a change to the bot, there is a way that you could forestall deletion without blocking it completely. You can edit the {{di-orphaned fair use}} tag to have a date some time further in the future, say, two weeks, or a month, e.g. {{di-orphaned fair use|date=20 January 2015}}. That way, as far as my bot is concerned, it is appropriately tagged for deletion, but it's not going to be deleted until after enough time for the debate to be resolved. --B (talk) 23:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Use of image

This image [1] is used here Therapeutics_Initiative. Not sure why that doesn't appear? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:46, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Doc James: When a page is moved, undeleted, or has vandalism reverted using rollback (in the case of Therapeutics Initiative it was moved), the Media Wiki software does not correctly update image links. My bot attempts to purge the image links using the article in the fair use rationale - so that if the image links are out of date, I will purge them. I did fix this some time ago to resolve redirects (at File:Logo of the Therapeutics Initiative.jpg, the link in the rationale is actually a redirect, not a direct link to the correct article), but it's not 100%. If this ever happens, any edit to the article will update the image links and cause my bot to not try to re-tag the image as an orphan. --B (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Perfect so for the not very technical among us that means the issue will not occur again? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@Doc James: Well, it shouldn't have happened this time. But if the original problem (the bot tagging an in-use image) does happen again, the way it can be fixed and you can prevent my bot from "fighting" over the issue is to make an edit to the page where the image is in use. --B (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Image undeletion request

Hi. Back in March 2015, the image File:ABC 4 Kids logo.png was deleted by you as it was an unused non-free media file for more than 7 days. I am requesting that this image be undeleted as I am working through the secondary Australian TV channels and creating image gallery spaces of their past logos on their respective pages for historical/archival purposes (here is an example for 9Go!). I ask that this image please be undeleted so that it can be used for this purpose. Thanks. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 12:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

@Nick Mitchell 98: I have restored File:ABC 4 Kids logo.png per your request and it is available to be added to an article. HOWEVER please note that galleries of non-free images are not appropriate - please see WP:NFG. Galleries of previous corporate logos have nearly always been deleted when brought up for discussions in our various deletion processes. Something like Logo of NBC where there is sourced discussion for each logo is probably acceptable, whereas a simple gallery with no sourced discussion about each image is likely unacceptable. (If the image is not re-added to an article in one week, no further action is necessary - it will be automatically re-deleted.) --B (talk) 13:18, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

@B: Thank you for your help. I will investigate further into this issue to better understand it. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 01:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Petty Theft Logo 2014.jpg

Hi, this image is being used in an article I am still working on. This image File:Petty Theft Logo 2014.jpg is linked to that article in my Sandbox (User:Ddab/sandbox) and it is showing under File Usage. Apologies if this isn’t the correct approach. Is it better I add the image as the final step before submitting? Ddab (talk) 20:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ddab: Non-free images are not permitted to be used in outside of article space - even in drafts of future articles. If you have an article draft in user space, the correct approach is to use a "placeholder" Put a different image in there, temporarily while you are developing the article. Then, once you are ready to promote the article into article space, replace it with the correct image. --B (talk) 13:13, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Flags of political parties

There was a syntax error in {{Infobox political party}}, so lots of flags for political parties were missing from their respective articles. I discovered this when your bot started filling up Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files as of 10 January 2016 with flag images on my watchlist and reverted the template so that the files now are in use again. Will your bot remove the F5 tags automatically in one week (and purge articles if necessary), or is it necessary to do something manually to clean this up? --Stefan2 (talk) 19:51, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

@Stefan2: It .should. do it automatically as long as the fair use rationale points to the right article. I have seen times where it is not perfect on updating the image links, but it is supposed to be purging the article in the rationale (resolving any redirects) and updating the image links. Have you already manually reverted the orfud tags? I notice that File:Lipa City Flag 2016.jpg and File:Lipa City Flag.jpg.gif seem to legitimately be orphans and there are very few flags in the category ... so I'm assuming you already took care of it manually? I could possibly set it to do the same purge and removal at 2 and 4 days, so that way you don't have to wait until the night before deletion to find out whether or not I'll be able to detect that the image is in use again. --B (talk) 12:19, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

I have not removed any orfud tags, but it is possible that someone else did. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:39, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Request for extension for File:Sonasoft-logo.png

Hi B-Bot,

Thanks for the heads up that the Sonasoft logo, File:Sonasoft-logo.png., is scheduled to be deleted on February 16, 2016.

I was wondering if I could receive a two-week extension; that is until March 1, 2016?

Reason is that I hope to finish and resubmit the draft for the Sonasoft page by then. Draft:Sonasoft

Many thanks for your consideration.

Emailarchiving.enthusiast (talk) 02:23, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi again, B-bot,

I see that you wrote:

″@Ddab: Non-free images are not permitted to be used in outside of article space - even in drafts of future articles. If you have an article draft in user space, the correct approach is to use a "placeholder" Put a different image in there, temporarily while you are developing the article. Then, once you are ready to promote the article into article space, replace it with the correct image. --B (talk) 13:13, 7 January 2016 (UTC)″

So, should I remove the image portion of Sonasoft-logo File:Sonasoft-logo.png and replace it with some generic placeholder image has the same dimensions?

Will this work for Wikipedia?

Kindly let me know. Thanks!

Emailarchiving.enthusiast (talk) 02:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Emailarchiving.enthusiast: In this particular case, the image in question - File:Sonasoft-logo.png - is not subject to copyright protection because it does not pass the threshold of originality. I have removed the fair use tag and you may re-add the image to your draft at any time you desire. To answer your question in general terms, B-bot actually treats drafts as an "in between" case. It does not remove the image from the draft nor does it tag the image as orphaned, but it does note the image in its log file so that a human can review it. In this particular case, the image was removed from this article by Finnusertop (talk · contribs), after which B-bot tagged it as orphaned. Images used under a claim of fair use are not permitted in drafts and are subject to summary removal at any time by any user who desires to do so. (Some users choose not to remove images from drafts that are actively being worked or awaiting review, but there is no requirement that they do so.) The preferred procedure is that you use some sort of placeholder in place of the logo until the moment that the article is ready to go live. Five minutes before making the article live, you can replace the placeholder with the real image. In this particular case, because the image is not subject to copyright protection, this process is not necessary, but for future reference, please use a placeholder for any fair use image while developing a draft. (You could just pick any public domain or other free photo to use in place of the non-free one.) --B (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! B-bot / Finnusertop. This is my first Wikipedia article (although I noted that there have been other contributions with the same IP address, but truly this is my first one.) So, I'm learning a lot.

To clarify, when the article goes live, all I have to do is add/revert the current file code where the logo should be.

| logo             = //Image:NonFreeImageRemoved|320px|sonasoft\\

and revert back to:

| logo             = //Image:sonasoft-logo.png|320px|sonasoft\\  (note: I will change / to [ and \ to ] in the actual production )

Is that all? Elementary.

Should I change any of the information in the logo file itself? File:Sonasoft-logo.png It seems that you changed that already and that this is the correct information to display for a logo.

I shamelessly modeled other accepted Wikipedia articles as a 'how to' guide. But, this makes more sense than those.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. If I do not see a reply, then I will assume that this is correct.

Once again, thanks for coming up with a solution that works and still adheres to Wikipedia's standards.

Emailarchiving.enthusiast (talk) 03:26, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, as a general rule what you said is correct. Except that in this particular case, the image was incorrectly tagged as non-free, so I have re-added it to the article and no further action is necessary - the image is perfectly fine to use in any article or draft as it is. --B (talk) 01:07, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

This was, in part, my bad. My apologies, B. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:19, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Logo speedy deletion

Hi, I understand the speedy deletion policy for our orphaned fair use logo is that the image is to be deleted after 7 days if it is not present in any article. However the article to include the logo is currently a draft at an advanced stage in my user page. Can an exception be made for this image, since I uploaded it for an upcoming article? Thanks --Br wind (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Read

Non-free images are not permitted to be used in outside of article space - even in drafts of future articles. If you have an article draft in user space, the correct approach is to use a "placeholder" Put a different image in there, temporarily while you are developing the article. Then, once you are ready to promote the article into article space, replace it with the correct image.

--Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 17:36, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 March 5

Greetings, noting here that I've tagged a file (redirect) you made for deletion in the "Placeholder images for overly generic file titles that shadow placeholder images on Commons part 2" section. Regards, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Drink.jpg listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect File:Drink.jpg. Since you had some involvement with the File:Drink.jpg redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Stefan2 (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello B-

I received 2 deletion messages today:

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Edward Lehman and Dick Cormack of DMACK and DMACK Holdings LTD.jpg

and

Orphaned non-free image File:E Lehman &a D Cormack of DMACK-DMACK Holdings Ltd.jpg

Situation is as follows: the first item, speedy deletion, is the first version of this photo I posted and I posted it as nonfree use.

Subsequently I received permission and re-uploaded the image with a free use tag.

Both files are in danger of deletion. I am requesting that you go ahead and delete the: Orphaned non-free image File:E Lehman &a D Cormack of DMACK-DMACK Holdings Ltd.jpg

But please keep the free image in the article.

I am very new to this and I appreciate any assistance you can give me.

Thank you very much for your time.

Kkimbero (talk) 01:30, 30 March 2016 (UTC)