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''The name comes from the Greek Sympheropolis (Greek: Συμφερόπολις), meaning city of common good.'' in the Etymology section, and |
''The name comes from the Greek Sympheropolis (Greek: Συμφερόπολις), meaning city of common good.'' in the Etymology section, and |
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''The name Simferopol is in Greek, Συμφερόπολις (Simferopolis), and literally means "the city of usefulness."'' in the Russian Empire and Civil War section. [[Special:Contributions/155.213.224.59|155.213.224.59]] ([[User talk:155.213.224.59|talk]]) 16:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC) |
''The name Simferopol is in Greek, Συμφερόπολις (Simferopolis), and literally means "the city of usefulness."'' in the Russian Empire and Civil War section. [[Special:Contributions/155.213.224.59|155.213.224.59]] ([[User talk:155.213.224.59|talk]]) 16:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:Russian is my mother tongue but it is nothing to help. We did not adopt any words of 'symf' root. Better ask Greek people. As far as I know Crimeans use 'usefulness' meaning, at least it is the literal translation of 'город пользы'. But 'pol'za' in Russian is not neutral term, it is very positive, more like 'beneficial'. |
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Water
I removed the phrase regarding water: Salgir is too small and polluted to be the water source. Anyway. it's not important - we don't usually specify where do cities get their water.AlexPU
- Salgir is too small and polluted to be the water source.
- O-la-la! Who told you this?! I've drunk water from Salgir many times, and I'm alive, you know. %))) And a half of the city is provided with Salgir water from the city's storage pond.
- Don Alessandro 21:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
It is true that there is a water reservoir on the Salgir upstream of Simferopol, though I am not sure how much of the city's water comes from there. Jbhood 10:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Etymology
I think the Greek etymology of Symferopol maybe is partial wrong: The substantive "symferon" (Συμφερον)" ancient greek meaning is closer to advantage/profit/interest/benefit - anything is good to someone. See here (Liddell-Scott-Jones Greek-English Lexicon) [1] b. in neut. as Subst., συμφέρον, οντος, τό, use, profit, advantage... Vardos (talk) 23:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know Greek or Russian, but we need to be consistent with ourselves. We currently say:
The name comes from the Greek Sympheropolis (Greek: Συμφερόπολις), meaning city of common good. in the Etymology section, and The name Simferopol is in Greek, Συμφερόπολις (Simferopolis), and literally means "the city of usefulness." in the Russian Empire and Civil War section. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 16:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Russian is my mother tongue but it is nothing to help. We did not adopt any words of 'symf' root. Better ask Greek people. As far as I know Crimeans use 'usefulness' meaning, at least it is the literal translation of 'город пользы'. But 'pol'za' in Russian is not neutral term, it is very positive, more like 'beneficial'.
Country
On other pages at the Wikipedia about disputed areas the country which controlls it get the label, for example: Arunachal Pradesh, Tawang District. It is also the most rational solution at any kind of encyclopedia not to comply with that what local or international law dictates, but the absolute physical characteristic. In this case maybe Ukraine, maybe Russia 'should' hold the label, but in reality it is the former for now. I understand it is quite a rare ocasion to see borders changing, so people don't have many opportunies to excercise their objectivism. So please consider keeping consistency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.17.84.82 (talk) 09:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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