User talk:Lid

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Hello!

Thanks for uploading some pictures to Wikipedia. I wanted to make sure you were aware of some of the requirements and good practices for uploaded images.

• Pick an image name.

When uploading an image, pick a file name that is descriptive, and unique. Remember that many images may be uploaded about the same topic, and remember that names are case sensitive.

• Source the image.

On the image description page, explain where the image came from. If you created the image yourself, then say so. If it's from the web, give a URL. If it's a screenshot of a movie or game, or a scan from a book, give the title.

• Provide copyright and license information.

This part is a little bit trickier, but it's very important. The copyright of the image generally belongs to whomever created it.

If it's a photograph you took, or an image you created (modifying an image that already exists doesn't count) in software like Photoshop or GIMP, then you own the copyright. To upload it to Wikipedia, you must agree to license it under the GFDL (which allows anyone to use it, but requires that they give credit to the original author and requires that any further edit to the image be licensed under the GFDL as well) or release it into the public domain (which allows anyone to use it for any purpose without restriction.) Do this by placing an appropriate tag on the image description page, like {{GFDL}} or {{PD}}. Be sure to mention that you created the image. If you're using {{PD}}, you may also want to use {{NoRightsReserved}}, since there is some dispute as to whether one may grant items into the public domain.

If you didn't create the image, or the copyright somehow belongs to another party (like a screenshot, which you might "create", but the copyright belongs to the author of the movie or video game), then you need to find another tag that describes the copyright status of the image. Images used on Wikipedia need to be free for our use and the use of sites which reproduce our content. This means that images cannot have a restriction such as "only for use by Wikipedia", or "for non-commercial use only", or "for educational use". Images without a free license may be usable in certain articles under fair use, but such a use should be justified on the image description page.

• Describe the image.

To another reader, the image may not be immediately understood. A caption in an article doesn't explain the image to a visitor who sees it on its image page. Put a brief explanation of what is in the image on the image description page, similar to what you might include in a caption on an article.

Some links to Wikipedia pages on this subject:

Copyrights, Copyright tags, Fair use, Image description page, Public domain, Images for deletion, Possibly unfree images, Copyright problems, Uploading images

Thanks again for your contributions. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me at my talk page. feydey 15:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Randy121

Thanks for the headup. Actually it's my fault. Should've seen that the block was old. I'll take care of it. --Woohookitty^(meow) 09:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks --- Lid 09:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Punk

The reason I suggest the format is because then it stays on one line, and the original variant is not any less important that the current one. Also I question the reverse hurricanrana name, a move which is physically impossible. Maybe it should be Reverse Huracanrana (Reverse frankensteiner)?
↪Lakes (Talk) 11:03, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The reverse hurricanrana links to the reverse frankensteiner under throws rather than reverse frankensteiner under aerial. The distinction is for people to diffenciate that Punk does both the top rope and standing versions and that in modern wrestling the name frankensteiner is only ever used in the top rope version while it is in nearly every case referred to as a harracanrana rather than a frankensteiner. --- Lid 11:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Reverse huracanrana is an impossible move, even though people call the reverse frankenstainer that. I changed it so that the distinction between the top rope and the regular variation is clear.

↪Lakes (Talk) 11:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Your message to me

Whoa! (just checked diffs). I'm not running a bot, but it looks like I should have reverted both those IP edits instead of just the first one. Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like you did the lions share of vandalfighting on that page.--inks^T 02:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Unforgiven

Actually, the one he uploaded here says it's a screenshot and it looks like...a screenshot. If it's not linked to a page soon, it'll be deleted anyway. --Woohookitty^(meow) 05:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: 220.255.130.51 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Just so you're aware, I was about to remove this report from AIV as insufficienty warned (and, having stopped editing an hour ago) when User:Kukini came to the same conclusion. User:Randy121, by the way, was blocked one week ago for 24 hours, so this report also did not constitute edits by a "blocked user". Happy editing! RadioKirk talk to me 16:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, though I labelled the user as a blocked user as the user was blocked indefinitely but it was changed and reduced. --- Lid 16:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, you saw that. Cool. :) RadioKirk talk to me 16:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

hi Lid

Just wanted to say thanxs for your work maintaining the move articles reverting vandals and clean up the messes of some very weird contributers... oh one thing if you could help with any time your cleaning a move or writing one can you make sure it doesnt say "victim" or "attacker" but instead "opponent" and "attacking wrestler" then simply "wrestler" ... anyway keep up the good work. --- Paulley

Image Tagging Image:Punkplunge.jpg

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Punkplunge.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. feydey 11:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Brainbuster

Slight difference... but almost the same the brainbuster doesnt see the opponent's legs thrown over allowing the attacking wrestler to drop them vertically on their heads --- Paulley

Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards

I have started your request for the creation of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards article. I'm not going to save a little throughout, so its going to be a red-link for a while until I get it completely finished. Cheers! — The King of Kings 20:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, no problem, it actually gave me something to do. A cross-reference would be great. At the bottom of the article we should list a few external links to where we got the info. — The King of Kings 06:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

John Cena Mediation

Hi, I am mediating the John Cena dispute you submitted. Please feel free to participate in the mediation, and I encourage you to do so. Thanks - BrownHornet21 02:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, for the info. I just found out from Prowrestling.com that they made a mistake. It was a non-title match. Thanks again, User:Clay4president

Reverse cloverleaf

I had a look but ithink its just a move from the imagination of one of are anon users.. i take it its a clover leaf with an opponent facing up a hold that doesnt exist within wrestling so it should be removed -- Paulley

Figure Four Deathlock.. a standing figure four maybe --- Paulley

Jacknife Powerbomb

I share your abhorence for that article. Its horrible. But that doesn't make it a candidate for speedy deletion. CSD is specifically designed for certain types of deletion and becasue it basically is a delete on sight, it gives page creators little or no opportunity to fix mistakes. For that reason it must have very strict bounds on what does and does not count as a speedy. The rule of thumb is: if an admin as to look at anything other than the page itself, speedy is not appropriate. For example, if I have to go to Google to ee if the Jacknife Powerbomb is a real wrestling move, I shouldn't be speedying the article.

You can always use prod for obvious deletion candidates that don't fall into one of the speedy categories.

In the case of Jacknife Powerbomb, I have turned it into a redirect to Powerbomb. This has the effect of removing the egregiously bad text of the article without requiring a formal deletion. It also allows people searching on that term to find a decent article. The really good news is anyone can redirect like this (as long as there is an appropriate target article), it doesn't require admin powers. Good luck (and nice catch on the article), Gwernol 11:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania X8

Could you please help summarize this [1]? I keep telling him it's full of grammar errors, weasel words, and peacock terms, yet he still keeps adding it. If you could help me summarize the match to be consistent with other matches in the article I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.--3bulletproof16 21:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

TheTruth2 has been reported. If you would like to leave a comment concerning the situation please do so here. I find it strange that when he is referred to Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling show formatting or any other guideline for that matter, he claims that he has already read them and that his edits "still follows the guidelines". Signed up just 3 days ago... Yep TJ Spyke and I are dealing with a troll here.--3bulletproof16 22:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

TAKA

Sadly, American wrestling fans (of whom I was once one) are dumb enough to use Taco as a search term. The insult was used in WWE storylines by heels occasionally. Do not relist the redirects for deletion please. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you did the right thing nominating for RfD: it may well be that there is consensus that insulting redirects (even where relevant) shouldn't exist. I certainly wouldn't oppose that. I just don't feel comfortable speedy deleting on that premise, because there is an argument to be had. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

See also Slick Ric for the practice. Xoloz 04:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

AFD

You probably want to list that afd on 1st AUG rather than 31st JUL. Yomangani 00:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

CM Punk and the Anaconda Vice

People still keep changing this. I agree with you, this is the move's name in Japan (where it originated) and in ROH (where Punk's usage of it originated). Just because WWE has an ignorant redneck giving moves idiotic names doesn't mean that's correct. Anyway, this looks like it could be a real edit war, but I thought I should bring it to your attention, since you reverted it once already. Tromboneguy0186 05:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Aaron Stevens

I'm watching SD! right now (I live in Canada), and his ring name IS Idol Stevens. --Dubhagan 01:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Bottage

[[2]] still doesn't link to anything. Am I missing something? alphaChimp ^laudare 20:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I get it. I wasn't reading what you were writing correctly. I'm working on it right now. alphaChimp ^laudare 20:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at the 3 on top of this page and tell me if that's what you're looking for me to do. The typo part of the edit summary is an error, but it's not hurting anything. alphaChimp ^laudare 20:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yah. I'm doing that too. I'll report back when I'm done. alphaChimp ^laudare 20:44, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

All done. I ran through everything that links to the list of professional wrestling throws. I think I've got the bad links effectively eliminated. Check out [3] for the replacements. I hope that helped. Let me know if you need any further assistance, or if I missed something. alphaChimp ^laudare 23:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

You?

You were the one who shortened the botch article? An encyclopedia article shouldn't get shorter. Change the article back. Torax2 04:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Subst:

When using certain template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. Thanks--1568 04:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

???

What do you mean my rationale makes no sense? Torax2 17:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Bottage

Sorry. Let me know if you want me to do it when I get back. alphaChimp ^laudare 17:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Please dont flag for deletion just because you have not heard of him. See fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Venant and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saint-Venant

Sally Gardner

You tagged Sally Gardner for speedy deletion. I wanted to let you know that the article has now been significantly expanded, and demonstrates that she is a notable English children's author. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 10:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't get it

How come my article is being deleted? I am fairly new to Wiki, and I don't see other articles being deleted and they are stubs...Is that serious to get all bent out of shape over? Good god...like you have never made a mistake!

I guess

Did I say you singled me out for personal attacks? No! I merely asked a question, because I am fairly new to wikipedia, and there is still so much to learn here. It's not like you have never made a mistake. You still have failed to answer my question as to why aren't you deleting all the other stubs out there? It's not fair. I come accross many of them a day and you don't lay a hand to delete them. May I ask what is a Vanity article?

Why your at it, you should also check out other supermodels thread who should be deleted...Selita EBanks, Miranda Kerr...I can tell you that probably about 99 percent of this so-called "info" on wiki has some mistakes in it..yet many of these articles have been up here for years...*rolling eyes*

I see

I apoligize...I'm still a bit frustrated with wiki.

Signature moves

I left some comments for you here: Talk:Chris Hero. Jonathan Burgess 22:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Replied with hopefully more clear descriptions. Jonathan Burgess 17:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll have to get back to you on those other moves, he sometimes has different names for the same move, so I've got to make sure I'm thinking of the right one. Jonathan Burgess 19:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Samoa Joe

No I did not hear back from him. I suspect he doesn't want that info to get out. James Duggan 00:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Might as well. --James Duggan 00:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Japanesse armdrag

I know the move but i cant really discrib it and it doesnt have an entry with the other arm drags... though the move does resemble a wrist lock suplex of sorts so maybe its on that page.. anyway i was hoping you could help me find it or add it if possible thanxs --- Paulley 22:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S. someones done a large edit on the Ganso bomb that is in need of attention but i dont know much about how it origionated either.

lol, i thought you'd might say that... i can see it in my head... oh wait here is a video clip of one [4], its a kinda overhead armdrag --- Paulley

Thanxs --- Paulley 02:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Kennedy finisher

OK yes it may well be called the JFK, but this is an encyclopedia, we have to have more proof than just an interview that only you listened to stating that that is the name of the move. As far as I know when Kennedy was on Byte This he stated that the moves were called unofficially-- the Green Bay Plunge and the Lambeau leap, so those are OK to remain, but as far as an interview that only you listened to, that is not verifiable and I will again put up that a citation is needed. If you persist on deleting that then I will delete the name of the move. Thanks for you cooperation. --Fr3nZi3 15:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well thanks for your message, I was going to advise you to put it up on the talk page, but you have already done that. Proof was all that was needed that is why I requested for a citation. --Fr3nZi3 03:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Finisher

if it was a finisher at one point in his career then it should be bolded no questions asked. --- Paulley

Steve Irwin

I will but it's only going to be vprotected for a couple more minutes. --Woohookitty^(meow) 05:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Carrots

I've reverted your change of colour back to color in Carrots, because the rest of the article was written with American spellings. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English dictates leaving the article in whatever it was already in, unless there's a compelling subject-related reason to change it. Nothing against British spellings, mind you! Waitak 09:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. I did, actually. Saw several uses of "color" and stopped looking... Now that you mention it, there are some uses of colour as well. Looks like seven occurrences with American usage, and five with British usage. No clue what policy is when it's a dialectical bouillabaisse like this. Should probably be one or the other. There's some argument for converting then all to American usage, because there are more of them at the moment, but it's a pretty weak argument. Waitak 09:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm having trouble seeing that. Looking at place references, there are:

• Afghanistan
• Netherlands
• US
• References to Britain, the European Union, Alaska and New Zealand in the trivia section

It doesn't seem like there's anything in the article itself that speaks for using either spelling. Waitak 09:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Vic Grimes

I just can't get through to user JB196. He continues to revert the article, reducing its quality claiming that he is not credited as "The Author" in the article itself. The issue is being brought up here [5] help would be greatly appreciated. -- bulletproof ^3:16 03:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk pages exist for a reason

Please use talk pages in the future before removing citation needed templates. You should know this being that you are an experienced Wikipedian, and I should not have to be telling you this. If something needs to be cited, it needs to be cited; the fact that Person A or Person B put the citation needed template makes no difference whatsoever. Please do not continue to remove citation needed templates as it constitutes disruption of Wikipedia. If you have citations for the wrestlers needing citations, then feel free to add those sources. You have disrupted two pages (Vic Grimes and Texas Wrestling Academy without even consulting the talk page before making said changes.JB196 15:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)