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Echoes Cover addition request

I recently made the mistake of making an addition this page without requesting it. I wanted to make an addition to the "cover versions" section to include a cover which has been doing the rounds on the internet. A YouTuber/musician who does many Floyd covers did a full cover of this song. My original edit was removed because the cover wasn't "notable". I'd like to know what makes a cover notable. This particular cover was shared by many blogs and websites and people non other than Pink Floyd drummer himself Nick Mason, receiving high praise from the main man.

I think for a Wikipedia page this detailed it should also include more covers. It looks a bit empty the way it is just now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WisemanOnceSaid (talk • contribs) 23:24, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@WisemanOnceSaid: Thank you for starting a discussion, I have to oppose per WP:NSONG and WP:COVERSONG. - Mlpearc (open channel) 23:33, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mlpearc:Thank you for replying. I'm sorry but I don't see how my edit does not meet the criteria in WP:NSONG and WP:COVERSONG. It states: "Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." The cover definitely meets that criteria.

@Mlpearc:I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just trying to learn. More information would be helpful. Thanks. WisemanOnceSaid (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mlpearc: I can't seem to reply to you on your talk page so I will reply here. I still think my edit meets the criteria you referred to in a previous comment. Can't we get another editor in here to peer review the edits I am proposing? WisemanOnceSaid (talk) 17:55, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@WisemanOnceSaid: In order to include a cover, the band/musician should be notable (per Wikipedia's guidelines for notability of musicians). If you can create an article about Ewan Cunningham, and get it to "stick" (i.e. not be deleted), then you might get by with this mention of his cover, but otherwise, it's just a bit of trivia that isn't really encyclopedic, even if Nick Mason liked the cover. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:09, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: Thank you for your helpful answer. Need more people like you in this space. WisemanOnceSaid (talk) 18:14, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've got another source for Ewan Cunningham; it's also the top hit for "pink floyd echoes cover" on Google, so I've added it, and included Dean Ween's cover too. To be honest, this sort of stuff is borderline, like "cultural references" in films and places; some people don't mind it being there (as long as it's reliably sourced), some people think it's off-topic. I personally prefer to include it, because if you don't, somebody will come along and add it anyway, and then you'll get a silly edit war. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:01, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ritchie333: Thanks Ritchie, I look at it the same way. Have a good day. WisemanOnceSaid (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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	I've got another source for Ewan Cunningham; it's also the top hit for "pink floyd echoes cover" on Google, so I've added it, and included [[Dean Ween]]'s cover too. To be honest, this sort of stuff is borderline, like "cultural references" in films and places; some people don't mind it being there (as long as it's reliably sourced), some people think it's off-topic. I personally prefer to include it, because if you don't, somebody will come along and add it anyway, and then you'll get a silly edit war. [[User:Ritchie333\|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 20:01, 24 April 2017 (UTC)		I've got another source for Ewan Cunningham; it's also the top hit for "pink floyd echoes cover" on Google, so I've added it, and included [[Dean Ween]]'s cover too. To be honest, this sort of stuff is borderline, like "cultural references" in films and places; some people don't mind it being there (as long as it's reliably sourced), some people think it's off-topic. I personally prefer to include it, because if you don't, somebody will come along and add it anyway, and then you'll get a silly edit war. [[User:Ritchie333\|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 20:01, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

			{{reply\|Ritchie333}} Thanks Ritchie, I look at it the same way. Have a good day. [[User:WisemanOnceSaid\|WisemanOnceSaid]] ([[User talk:WisemanOnceSaid\|talk]]) 20:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)