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The Eastern Orthodox section is a correct description of the wrong service. The Byzantine equivalent of the Easter Vigil is the Vesperal Liturgy of St. Basil, held on the ''morning'' of Holy Saturday. At this service, the prophecies are read and catechumens are baptized. The midnight Liturgy is equivalent to the Mass of Easter Day in the Latin Rite. (In the Byzantine Rite, all the services of Holy Week take place half a day early.) - [[User:BALawrence|BALawrence]] 05:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
The Eastern Orthodox section is a correct description of the wrong service. The Byzantine equivalent of the Easter Vigil is the Vesperal Liturgy of St. Basil, held on the ''morning'' of Holy Saturday. At this service, the prophecies are read and catechumens are baptized. The midnight Liturgy is equivalent to the Mass of Easter Day in the Latin Rite. (In the Byzantine Rite, all the services of Holy Week take place half a day early.) - [[User:BALawrence|BALawrence]] 05:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:The Divine Liturgy does not start at midnight, but some time later after Matins. There is really no service called "Easter Vigil" in Orthodoxy, although this (or "Paschal Vigil") is often used casually. A "Vigil" in Orthodox terms is a specific service, and neither the Vesperal Liturgy on Saturday (which occurs in the morning in parishes, but not in monasteries) nor the aggregation described here as that best corresponding to what is done in the West is really that. In, again, casual speech either service might be called by this name, and if you [http://www.google.com/search?q=orthodox+pascha+vigil Google] for it you'll find both at various Orthodox websites. ''[[User:Csernica|TCC]]'' <small>[[User_talk:Csernica|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Csernica|(contribs)]]</small> 05:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
:The Divine Liturgy does not start at midnight, but some time later after Matins. There is really no service called "Easter Vigil" in Orthodoxy, although this (or "Paschal Vigil") is often used casually. A "Vigil" in Orthodox terms is a specific service, and neither the Vesperal Liturgy on Saturday (which occurs in the morning in parishes, but not in monasteries) nor the aggregation described here as that best corresponding to what is done in the West is really that. In, again, casual speech either service might be called by this name, and if you [http://www.google.com/search?q=orthodox+pascha+vigil Google] for it you'll find both at various Orthodox websites. ''[[User:Csernica|TCC]]'' <small>[[User_talk:Csernica|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Csernica|(contribs)]]</small> 05:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::Obviously the rites are different, which is why they are different rites. That shouldn't mean no comparisons can be drawn at all; an ''afterfeast'' is an equivalent of an ''octave'', a ''paramony'' of a ''Vigil'' (meaning the day) and so forth after all. With that adaption, the Saturday late morning service seems to be the equivalent of the "Easter Vigil", while the Easter Night service seems to be a service which does not have a direct correspondence, though in German it might be called ''Ostermette'' in analogy to the ''Christmette'' (''-mette'' for Matins) which is a term for the Christmas Midnight Mass (sometimes, and probably originally which would explain the name, held in combination with Matins).--[[Special:Contributions/131.159.76.179|131.159.76.179]] ([[User talk:131.159.76.179|talk]]) 18:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC) |
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The Eastern Orthodox section is a correct description of the wrong service. The Byzantine equivalent of the Easter Vigil is the Vesperal Liturgy of St. Basil, held on the morning of Holy Saturday. At this service, the prophecies are read and catechumens are baptized. The midnight Liturgy is equivalent to the Mass of Easter Day in the Latin Rite. (In the Byzantine Rite, all the services of Holy Week take place half a day early.) - BALawrence 05:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- The Divine Liturgy does not start at midnight, but some time later after Matins. There is really no service called "Easter Vigil" in Orthodoxy, although this (or "Paschal Vigil") is often used casually. A "Vigil" in Orthodox terms is a specific service, and neither the Vesperal Liturgy on Saturday (which occurs in the morning in parishes, but not in monasteries) nor the aggregation described here as that best corresponding to what is done in the West is really that. In, again, casual speech either service might be called by this name, and if you Google for it you'll find both at various Orthodox websites. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Obviously the rites are different, which is why they are different rites. That shouldn't mean no comparisons can be drawn at all; an afterfeast is an equivalent of an octave, a paramony of a Vigil (meaning the day) and so forth after all. With that adaption, the Saturday late morning service seems to be the equivalent of the "Easter Vigil", while the Easter Night service seems to be a service which does not have a direct correspondence, though in German it might be called Ostermette in analogy to the Christmette (-mette for Matins) which is a term for the Christmas Midnight Mass (sometimes, and probably originally which would explain the name, held in combination with Matins).--131.159.76.179 (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
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